Date: October 17, 2020 11:19PM
Ethos, Logos and Pathos - Aristotle's Rhetorical Situation
Ethics (credibility or trustworthiness), Logic (Content of the speech) and Emotional appeal, Aristotle's 3 rhetorical appeals still apply and work.
So does the Socratic Method.
On the other hand, is your friend better off Mormon?
And are you prepared to be the one who's shoulder he cries on if it turns out his emotional social needs are better met as a Mormon?
It's a big responsibility to carry if you burst somebody's bubble and they don't do the research on their own to find out. I mean, how hard is it to Google?
I kind of don't have a hell of a lot of sympathy for Mormons these days who claim ignorance, 20 years into the Google Age.
I just ask them questions that really make them think and don't let them off the hook with the Pablum bullshit they read on LDS.org or FAIR Mormon. It's rediculous.
These are the kinds of questions I had to answer on my own, through research that made me seriously question the integrity (Ethos) Ethics and Morals of the leaders of the church.
#1. "IF what they've got is what they claim it to be, the truth, straight from God. Then why don't then let us have a look inside that secret vault of theirs and see what's in it and if it is what they say it is, then we'll shout it from the rooftops!" Jon Krakauer, Under the Banner of Heaven
#2. Why did Mormons restrict blacks from entering the temple? It's not like you needed the priesthood to enter the temple, since women have entered the temple all along without the priesthood?
#3. Why is it that Joseph Smith didn't write down the 1st Vision until 18 years after he claimed it happened? And why isn't that the one that is the official version, instead of the one that is the official version, which is actually the 4th version of the First Vision and nothing like the first version, which was the only version that was written in his own hand?
#4. How do you explain the fact that Joseph Smith 'married' his followers wives when that's condemned as adultery, not only in the 10 Commandments, but in the Revelation Joseph Claimed he got straight from God, D&C 132:61, the Law of the Priesthood?
#5. How do you reconcile the fact that the no Semetic DNA has been detected in Native Americans from Alaska to the Southern Tip of South America, why is that when Mormons have been calling all Native Americans, North and South, "Lamanites" for over 100 years? Isn't that wrong to call them something they're clearly NOT?
the list goes on.
But make them think for themselves.
They'll try to give you bullshit answers to your question, but don't let them get a way with cliches or whatabout isms. Just keep asking the questions they can't answer honestly, then it's clear to everybody in the conversation, that their ethics, logic and emotional appeal is all snonsensical and detached from reality. AKA, delusional.