Posted by:
Lot's Wife
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Date: December 08, 2020 04:57PM
azsteve Wrote:
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> Just because you make up
> names for someone and accuse them unfairly,
> doesn't mean they are the person you make them out
> to be.
That's an empirical question. Are my comments fair or unfair? More to the point, are yours?
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> In a televised meeting of the UN, President
> Trump is quoted as saying "I will always put
> America first and you should do the same for your
> country as well". That doesn't make him a racist
> or someone who betrays our allies.
You see, azsteve, that is a non sequitur. What Trump says at the UN about the United States has nothing to do with racism or betraying our allies. What matters is not his rhetoric but his actions.
Let's look at those. On racism, he enacted four or five anti-Muslim bans that were ruled unconstitutional before he finally hit on a policy that was acceptable. He built a wall to protect the US from those Latinos who he and and you feel threaten US safety but without any recognition of what they do to keep food on your table; with no respect for US treaty and legal obligations regarding refugees and asylum seekers, moves also ruled unconstitutional; he intentionally broke up Latino families and rendered hundreds of little kids orphans whose parents can't be located. And yes, there was that wall with Canada, the dog that didn't bark, that would have proved he was concerned about immigration from all sources. Then there was his support for the white nationalists at Charlottesville. And don't forget all the insults he throws at non-caucasian politicians and women and people from shithole countries. If that seem like racism, azsteve, it's time for you to take a close look at yourself.
On foreign policy, your Dear Leader abandoned TPP, which was aimed at controlling China and helping US allies in East Asia; he told Xi it was okay to deracinate the Uyghurs and to seize Hong Kong; he encouraged Brexit and Brexiteers, knowing that that could split the UK down the center and would also undermine NATO and the EU; he savaged Merkel, who is the foundation of NATO in Europe; he refused to punish Ordoban for having his thugs beat up Americans in front of the White House; he sacrificed our allies the Kurds in order to appease Putin and Assad; he protected MBS from repercussions for what his agents did to an American resident; he attacked our ally Ukraine in an attempt to get that country to manufacture fraudulent material about Biden even though it was in US interests to strengthen Ukraine. If those don't appear betrayals of allies--and hence diminutions of US security--there are teachers in AZ who should be spanked repeatedly.
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> But they had
> better pay their fair share of defense expenses if
> they want the US to honor our treaty to protect
> them.
Ibid. We have not honored our treaties (plural) to protect our allies. And paying their bills to the US in no way guaranteed that the administration would treat them better than the ones who didn't pay their share. With China, with Britain, with China: US policy changes on the whim of one man. Yet the notion of paying their share is an easy one, no? It doesn't require any understanding of international relations and geosecurity, so you grab on to it and pretend that it is a foreign policy rather than an excuse for the abdication of foreign policy.
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> Joe Biden accused President Trump of
> xenophobia for shutting down travel to China
> immediately before the pandemic started while
> Nancy Polosie was dancing in the streets of China
> Town, telling everyone to come join the party.
This canard is a bit like your treatment of foreign policy. There's no substantive content there but it's emotive and the right wing people think it's funny, so there you go. The truth is that he shut down China months after the problem began and in any case the vast majority of infections entered uninhibited from Europe with European mutations. The only truly effective travel ban at a time when the virus was spreading globally and ravaging Europe would have been a complete one and yet for some reason Trump only felt comfortable banning an ethnically distinct population. If he hadn't been so deeply racist, Trump might have settled on a travel policy that was broad enough to have worked.
But let's go farther. Your hero is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. If we had done as much with masks and distancing as some of the other wealthy countries, our losses would have been measured in tens of thousands rather than the half million we will reach in six months. Why didn't you mention this, azsteve?
And what about the destruction of the constitution? Well, we know the answer there, don't we. In our years of arguing you have never once spoken of the need to respect or protect the freedoms enshrined in the constitution. You have always favored dictators and dictatorships in the naive belief that tyrants will always be on your side. They won't. And if you are lucky, we snowflakes with our respect for the constitution may succeed in preventing you from falling prey to the next dictator who arises and tries to lock you up for your political beliefs or your race.
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> Some people just watch their favorite news Channel
> and use the false information found there to
> attack the beliefs of others.
You have no idea what my news sources are. You wouldn't be able to read some of them because they are in different languages and even the ones in English employ big words. We know you don't have subscriptions to the Nikkei, the FT, the BBC, Der Spiegel, the South China Post, Al Jazeera, the Economist, and the others. Your news comes from within the US and specifically from a subset of American outlets whose views you parrot religiously. You don't read widely enough even to know whether your favorites are objective.
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> What about fairness
> here?
You have never worried about fairness towards people who are not like you. You have never worried about the legal or illegal immigrant, about the baby in a cage, about the black man shot and killed for jogging in his neighborhood or the nurse slaughtered in her apartment. You have never expressed concern for the people killed by Rittenhouse simply because they were marching in the name of black people. You constantly condescend to women and minorities. That you would turn around now and ask for "fairness" when your god has lost an election is truly rich.
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Lets recall your judgment on these matters. Before the midterms you spoke messianically of how the GOP was going to fare spectacularly well, taking the House as well as the senate and inaugurating a period of great government. And yet your hero has now lost two popular elections--the latter by historic margins--and may well lose the senate. Rather than take his loss in stride and finish responsibly, he is moping about, making it more difficult to fight COVID and firing the professionals from the armed services in favor of right-wing boy scouts. Your hero's acting like a two-year-old in a tantrum, as one would expect given his record as a businessman, a husband, a racist pol insisting that five innocent black kids should be executed and that Obama was a Muslim.
That's your hero. That's the man who you once said was "not what people say he is" even as the rest of us said then, and say now, "he is exactly what his behavior says he is." One would hope that with time and the wisdom of age you would come to realize how much harm your Dear Leader has done to the world and the country, but I don't think that will happen. People like you live in hermetically sealed echo chambers impervious to honest inquiry or reflection.
It is sad, if unsurprising, when erstwhile macho men transform into the the avatars of aggrieved victimhood that they have in fact always been.