https://newsroom.unsw.edu.au/news/science-tech/homeland-modern-humans

"200,000 years ago, the first Homo sapiens sapiens maternal lineage emerged in a ‘homeland’ south of the Greater Zambezi River Basin region, which includes the entire expanse of northern Botswana into Namibia to the west and Zimbabwe to the east."

She co-Existed with our predecessor, Homo Sapiens Idaltu, Adam.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herto_Man
And 15 other species of humans that we know of.

But JS said the Garden of Eden was in Missouri.

Does this mean they will be re-making the temple film with black Eve and black Adam?

bradley Wrote:
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> But JS said the Garden of Eden was in Missouri.
>
> Does this mean they will be re-making the temple
> film with black Eve and black Adam?


Unfortunately, the truth doesn't sell.

"The truth is common property. You can't distinguish your group by doing things that are rational, and believing things that are true. If you want to set yourself apart from other people, you have to do things that are arbitrary, and believe things that are false." Paul Graham, Lies We Tell Our Kids

http://www.paulgraham.com/lies.html

Want to sell a white supremacist myth?
Adopt the Jewish origin narrative that starts about 194,000 years after your species hybridized from the other 16 species of humans who co-existed in Africa before our species evolved.



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Did they mention what the school mascot was, at her high school?

I bet it was some really awesome animal!!

elderolddog Wrote:
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> Did they mention what the school mascot was, at
> her high school?
>
> I bet it was some really awesome animal!!


Her senior class picture was found on a cave wall in France.
Her first car was a chariot.
Her prom theme was fire.
Her birthstone was lava.
Her first Christmas was the first Christmas.

(Thanks to 2-1/2 Men)

Someone pls send a copy of this to the FP / Q12 !

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> Someone pls send a copy of this to the FP / Q12 !


Interestingly, the area to the North of the Zambezi River Basin region is the only place in the world that is home to our closest living cousin, the Bonobos.

https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/bonobo#

"Bonobos and chimpanzees look very similar and both share 98.7% of their DNA with humans—making the two species our closest living relatives. Bonobos are usually a bit smaller, leaner and darker than chimpanzees. Their society is also different—bonobo groups tend to be more peaceful and are led by females. They also maintain relationships and settle conflicts through sex."

Which might be why the FP wouldn't want to even hear about our matriarchal peaceful sex crazed cousins.

I thought she was kicked out along with her husband.

Elder Berry Wrote:
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> I thought she was kicked out along with her
> husband.

They left on their own accord, to Europe, where they hooked up with the native European Neanderthals, who left Africa 100,000 years before Homo Sapiens Sapiens naturally selected and then to Asia, where they hooked up with the far more ancient native Asians, aka, Denisovans, and naturally selected hybridization, which has continued ever since.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denisovan#/media/File:Spread_and_evolution_of_Denisovans.jpg

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/understanding/dtcgenetictesting/neanderthaldna/

The Garden of Eden became gentrified so God raised the rent. Adam and Eve wouldn’t sell their tokens for money so here we are.

Somehow, SC can advance claims from 2019 but holler about a Dec. 2020 Snopes citation I offered and imply it is somehow invalid because it's from "last year."

And ohmygarshgoodness, what about those Neanderthals in our ancestry? And Denisovans? Inquiring minds want to know...

"Mitochondrial Eve" is simply a "mathematical construct," and in identifying a common female ancestor, it must be remembered she did not live in a vacuum, obviously. The current thinking is other lineages did not pass on their mitochondria, but the situation with "autosomal," i.e. nuclear DNA, is a whole 'nother collection of nucleotides.

SL Cabbie Wrote:
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> Somehow, SC can advance claims from 2019 but
> holler about a Dec. 2020 Snopes citation I offered
> and imply it is somehow invalid because it's from
> "last year."

THe NYT, SFGate and the Guardian have all published articles on the topic since your Snopes article was published, which would make it kinda irrelevant, don't you think?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/education/article/Washington-and-Lincoln-are-out-S-F-school-board-15900963.php

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/27/san-francisco-schools-george-washington-abraham-lincoln-dianne-feinstein

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/us/san-francisco-schools-lincoln-feinstein.html


> And ohmygarshgoodness, what about those
> Neanderthals in our ancestry? And Denisovans?
> Inquiring minds want to know...
>
> "Mitochondrial Eve" is simply a "mathematical
> construct," and in identifying a common female
> ancestor, it must be remembered she did not live
> in a vacuum, obviously. The current thinking is
> other lineages did not pass on their mitochondria,
> but the situation with "autosomal," i.e. nuclear
> DNA, is a whole 'nother collection of nucleotides.

Got it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

Right... Try speaking to what it said, and as for your claims of a "Garden of Eden" in Africa, seriously, spare us the deflections.

What the NY Times article said was the school Board was "advancing a plan" while your subline claimed the city school district was going to remove Washington and Lincoln's name from schools.

I also can't find that reference to Bill Maher; he's a bright, funny guy (I even saw him once and I'm still laughing at his joke about Ann Coulter),

Here's what the Snopes article said (since you clearly didn't read it):

>>The source for the numerous headlines reporting that the liberal Bay Area city was set on changing the name of Lincoln High because Lincoln didn’t show “Black lives matter” comes from a single quote from Jeremiah Jeffries, the chair of San Francisco Unified School District’s School Names Advisory Committee. He was quoted by the San Francisco Chronicle in a Dec. 14, 2020, article on the subject with the following remark...

>>Jeffries’ quote was manipulated by outlets to say “that Black lives ever mattered to him,” as though Jeffries had referred only to Lincoln...



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SL Cabbie Wrote:
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> Right... Try speaking to what it said, and as for
> your claims of a "Garden of Eden" in Africa,
> seriously, spare us the deflections.
>
> What the NY Times article said was the school
> Board was "advancing a plan" while your subline
> claimed the city school district was going to
> remove Washington and Lincoln's name from schools.
>
>
> I also can't find that reference to Bill Maher;
> he's a bright, funny guy (I even saw him once and
> I'm still laughing at his joke about Ann Coulter),
>
>
> Here's what the Snopes article said (since you
> clearly didn't read it):
>
> >>The source for the numerous headlines reporting
> that the liberal Bay Area city was set on changing
> the name of Lincoln High because Lincoln didn’t
> show “Black lives matter” comes from a single
> quote from Jeremiah Jeffries, the chair of San
> Francisco Unified School District’s School Names
> Advisory Committee. He was quoted by the San
> Francisco Chronicle in a Dec. 14, 2020, article on
> the subject with the following remark...
>
> >>Jeffries’ quote was manipulated by outlets to
> say “that Black lives ever mattered to him,”
> as though Jeffries had referred only to Lincoln...

I did read it, I just thought it was irrelevant, since Snopes was talking about BLM, from back in December. The more current articles I referenced were talking about SFSD's current plans to remove the names of Lincoln and Washington from their schools.



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You need an education in remedial reading skills. I can see that because I was an English teacher with a credential in teaching them. Let me repeat it: The Snopes article is barely two months old, and it accurately describes how the story "played out," and it had nothing to do with "Black Lives Matter." Here are the relevant parts:

>>Jeffries’ quote was manipulated by outlets to say “that Black lives ever mattered to him,” as though Jeffries had referred only to Lincoln, when in fact he had stated “that Black lives ever mattered to them,” in reference to various presidents, including Lincoln. The New York Post’s headline, for example, reads, “School may remove Lincoln’s name because he didn’t show ‘black lives mattered to him.'”

>>Earlier in the Chronicle story, Jeffries stated that the committee put Lincoln High School on the list because of Abraham Lincoln’s treatment of Native Americans.

Furthermore, this comment from Jeffries wasn’t related to why the committee put Lincoln High School on the list for name change consideration. It was a comment from Jeffries about his own views on many presidents’ legacies.

You distorted the committee's recommendation into a hyperbolic claim the district was going to change matters as if this were a fait accompli.

You also haven't addressed the facts I presented on the subject of autosomal DNA, the presence of Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA in our genome, or addressed the timetable for the "out of Africa migration." This is a reasonable assessment of our current understanding of the findings and issues.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-great-human-migration-13561/

>>As the gaps are filled, the story is likely to change, but in broad outline, today's scientists believe that from their beginnings in Africa, the modern humans went first to Asia between 80,000 and 60,000 years ago. By 45,000 years ago, or possibly earlier, they had settled Indonesia, Papua New Guinea and Australia. The moderns entered Europe around 40,000 years ago, probably via two routes: from Turkey along the Danube corridor into eastern Europe, and along the Mediterranean coast. By 35,000 years ago, they were firmly established in most of the Old World. The Neanderthals, forced into mountain strongholds in Croatia, the Iberian Peninsula, the Crimea and elsewhere, would become extinct 25,000 years ago. Finally, around 15,000 years ago, humans crossed from Asia to North America and from there to South America.

Most likely there were Homo sapiens in Africa 200,000 years ago, but they didn't leave there until sometime around 80,000 to 60,000 years ago.



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SL Cabbie Wrote:
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> You need an education in remedial reading skills.
> I can see that because I was an English teacher
> with a credential in teaching them. Let me repeat
> it: The Snopes article is barely two months old,
> and it accurately describes how the story "played
> out," and it had nothing to do with "Black Lives
> Matter." Here are the relevant parts:
>
> >>Jeffries’ quote was manipulated by outlets to
> say “that Black lives ever mattered to him,”
> as though Jeffries had referred only to Lincoln,
> when in fact he had stated “that Black lives
> ever mattered to them,” in reference to various
> presidents, including Lincoln. The New York
> Post’s headline, for example, reads, “School
> may remove Lincoln’s name because he didn’t
> show ‘black lives mattered to him.'”
>
> >>Earlier in the Chronicle story, Jeffries stated
> that the committee put Lincoln High School on the
> list because of Abraham Lincoln’s treatment of
> Native Americans.
>
> Furthermore, this comment from Jeffries wasn’t
> related to why the committee put Lincoln High
> School on the list for name change consideration.
> It was a comment from Jeffries about his own views
> on many presidents’ legacies.
>
> You distorted the committee's recommendation into
> a hyperbolic claim the district was going to
> change matters as if this were a fait accompli.


>
> You also haven't addressed the facts I presented
> on the subject of autosomal DNA, the presence of
> Neanderthal and Denisovan DNA in our genome, or
> addressed the timetable for the "out of Africa
> migration." This is a reasonable assessment of our
> current understanding of the findings and issues.
>
> https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-great-h
> uman-migration-13561/
>
> >>As the gaps are filled, the story is likely to
> change, but in broad outline, today's scientists
> believe that from their beginnings in Africa, the
> modern humans went first to Asia between 80,000
> and 60,000 years ago. By 45,000 years ago, or
> possibly earlier, they had settled Indonesia,
> Papua New Guinea and Australia. The moderns
> entered Europe around 40,000 years ago, probably
> via two routes: from Turkey along the Danube
> corridor into eastern Europe, and along the
> Mediterranean coast. By 35,000 years ago, they
> were firmly established in most of the Old World.
> The Neanderthals, forced into mountain strongholds
> in Croatia, the Iberian Peninsula, the Crimea and
> elsewhere, would become extinct 25,000 years ago.
> Finally, around 15,000 years ago, humans crossed
> from Asia to North America and from there to South
> America.
>
> Most likely there were Homo sapiens in Africa
> 200,000 years ago, but they didn't leave there
> until around 80,000 and 60,000 years ago.


Write a letter to the editors of the NYT, SF Gate and the Guardian. When they issue a retraction, I'll ask admin to change the title of my post, since it's closed now.

The Mormon capacity for denial is strong in this one...

Give me a D...

Give me an E...

Give me an N...

Give me an I...

No prizes for guessing what I'm going to spell.

Hah! I stand in awe.

SL Cabbie Wrote:
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> Right... Try speaking to what it said, and as for
> your claims of a "Garden of Eden" in Africa,
> seriously, spare us the deflections.
>
> What the NY Times article said was the school
> Board was "advancing a plan" while your subline
> claimed the city school district was going to
> remove Washington and Lincoln's name from schools.
>
>
> I also can't find that reference to Bill Maher;
> he's a bright, funny guy (I even saw him once and
> I'm still laughing at his joke about Ann Coulter),
>
>
> Here's what the Snopes article said (since you
> clearly didn't read it):
>
> >>The source for the numerous headlines reporting
> that the liberal Bay Area city was set on changing
> the name of Lincoln High because Lincoln didn’t
> show “Black lives matter” comes from a single
> quote from Jeremiah Jeffries, the chair of San
> Francisco Unified School District’s School Names
> Advisory Committee. He was quoted by the San
> Francisco Chronicle in a Dec. 14, 2020, article on
> the subject with the following remark...
>
> >>Jeffries’ quote was manipulated by outlets to
> say “that Black lives ever mattered to him,”
> as though Jeffries had referred only to Lincoln...

I thought it was Obvious that I was being metaphorical, given the fact the Bible creation myth is, at best, a metaphor. And not a very good one, since it puts Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden, alone, 6,000 yrs ago. 500,000 years after Homo Erectus and Heidelbergensis arrived in Europe and hybridized to creat Neanderthals and Denisovans.
Where’s that history written?
On our DNA, which I trust.

Witten on our DNA?

That's not the science. This is more of the sloppy apprehension cabbie called out.

At best it's our translation of our current understanding. It gets revised frequently as you found out as they sent you updates to their interpretation of your scan.

I'm sad when mommy and daddy argue...

Your mommy and daddy loved you. That's why they gave you an allowance of $10 a week, which was a lot of money in the 1930s.

>> ....which was a lot of money in the 1930s.

Oh, back when lions and tigers didn't eat meat!

And bears, oh my! There's no place like home.

I have made up a word-combo which I believe covers these episodes:

You three are pedofoggers!

Yep, I think I nailed it.

You're just pettifogging us again.

I've often felt petticoated by him.

Do you think it's reached that junction?

I thought that is what Lamanites did?

https://mysimplymaddlife.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/img_4816.jpg