Dear The Cat,
"(There are) topic(s) on which you seem to post a lot, usually with some sort of straw man argument in the subject line or as the theme of the post. One of the big problems ... is ... cherry-picking of quotes and references (which have) little utility in logical discourse.
"In the interests of civil discussion, I'd like to ask you to try a different tack in your posts:
"* Please do share your personal experiences and feelings, and tell us the reasons you believe what you do. This is very valuable.
"* Please do not attack others for their beliefs, ascribe motives to them, tell them what they believe, or play definition games with the words they may use to describe themselves. That only starts fights.
"The personal beliefs of Neil deGrasse Tyson and other famous people are important for them, but they are not important for RfM.
"Arguing with Mormons, especially missionaries, is unlikely to bear any sort of fruit. They speak from a position of belief, rather than a position of education and rational discourse. Trying to get them to admit damaging things about the church will neither help your position nor change their opinion. They have too many cult-ingrained thought-stopping techniques to be persuaded by your argumentation.
"Please try what I suggested above when you post here. See if you feel any different."
You never offered a substantive response to this offering.
A bit later in that October, 2018 thread there was appended, by others, this list of your favorite topics, past and present:
1) attacking missionaries
2) JS the cuckolding head of a doomsday cult
3) atheists don't understand other atheists, let me show you...
4) God Particles
5) Min's appendage
I've noted another topic for which you have some fondness: the "Last/Final Straw"
On three occasions you've exclaimed on this topic:
1)
Re: what was the last straw?
The abuse of my <5 y.o. niece, who was raped by a Mormon Penis Holder, who was protected from any consequences whatsoever, to this day, by my Nazi TBM sister, because he was a Mormon and her daughter, my Niece, was just a silly little girl.
The cover up.
The lies, told to protect the Mormon abusers, out of an expressed interest in "protecting the good name of the church" which is far above protecting innocent children in a CULT that brainwashes kids into singing the praises of a gd rapist.
How is singing the praises of Joseph's Myth less immoral than Fundy MORmONS singing the praises of a rapist like Warren Jeffs?
https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2191379,2192629#msg-21926292)
What was it that made you say to yourself, "That's it. I'm done!"
For me, it was sitting in a Gospel Doctrine class my cousin was teaching about the Book of Mormon. He wondered aloud why the whole world didn't consider the Book of Mormon the word of God. Then the Stake High Councilman sitting right in front of me spoke up in defense of the Book of Mormon, saying he wondered when its promise would be fulfilled and the Lamanites would accept Mormonism and be turned white and delightsome again.
I looked around the room to see if anybody else was as shocked and offended by this statement as I was and apparently nobody else in the room was at all bothered that this was asked in the 21st Century, long after the racist myths Mormonism was based upon had been debunked by the DNA evidence that proved there was no trace of Semitic DNA in any Native American populations and long after the leaders of the church had changed that obviously white supremacist word from 'white' to 'pure' to make it sound less white supremacist. I just shook my head, realizing I was no longer among my tribe and walked out and vowed never to come back again.
I went to gather up my kids to leave for the last time. As I looked through the window of the primary class, I saw my beautiful Native American daughter singing with the rest of the little kids, "Book of MORmON Stories" and pantomiming "Lamanites" by putting two fingers up over the back of her head.
https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2363345,2363345#msg-23633453)
My best friend in life is a Mormon, I wouldn't say a TBM, but pretty much knows everything I know about the church, and more. He's written it all down in chronological order, the polygamy/polyandry, sexual exploitation, abuse, racism, sexism, MMM, BoA, which is the worst part for him.
For me it was the abuse, that I've seen way too much evidence of to deny, that it happened to at least 10 kids I knew, grew up with, by Mormon men, preisthood holders, who were put in positions of power and authority over helpless kids. And they were protected by Mormons. That was ultimately the last straw for me.
https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2346889,2346899#msg-2346899The point of isolating these three nuggets is to support my contention that you're a bit of a glory-hog, to the point that you don't mind making stuff up.
Coming up with an explanation for your behavior on RfM isn't necessary. ...an interesting inquiry, but unneeded.
Experience tells us that you enjoy the back and forth between the two sides, and that you see yourself as always being the victor. On my part, I try to treat this as I would any malady and am simply looking for a cure.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/12/2021 08:04PM by elderolddog.