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Posted by: Concrete Zipper ( )
Date: March 20, 2021 05:01PM

Greetings fellow exmos!

Although it's been less than a year since our last fund raiser, it's time to do it again. Why? We didn't get quite enough last time to run the site for a year. We hate to ask for money, but the cost realities of hosting, bandwidth, etc. require us to occasionally ask for donations. Our last one was in July of 2020 and our account at the ISP is already depleted.

The site costs about $2500/year to operate, and our goal is to raise two years worth of funding or $5000.
*** As an incentive *** anyone who donates $1000 or more will receive an original artwork created by CZ himself. I don't know what form that will take yet, but I will do my best not to disappoint. Note: No one took advantage of this amazing offer last time, so this year you could be the first!

Please use the Paypal donation button you can see by scrolling to the bottom of the home page: https://www.exmormon.org
You can use a credit card or your Paypal account (if you have one). If you want to pay by check or money order, you can send that directly to our ISP:

https://www.paypal.com/donate/?token=PaRBJZdCEuRKwYBH1Amn-jombiMmOL6Uvqaoyh1gHrtAto3Z60dooTmRDxa1lCt0n9T84m&country.x=US&locale.x=US

Wingnet
P.O. Box 2605, Cleveland, TN, 37320
Make sure to write "For exmormon.org" in the memo field so that they know to credit it to us.

No one is required to donate. This is strictly voluntary and we're not going to push anyone into doing it. If you're broke, then don't worry about giving your "widow's mite". The site does need money, but not badly enough to harm a donor. However, if you do have the money and you feel that the world is better with exmormon.org up and running, then a donation would be greatly appreciated. If you happen to be feeling flush, dig deep! Remember that we didn't even get enough for the entire year last time and we don't want to repeat that situation.

Imagine how the community here has helped you through the Covid crisis. Plus, exmormon.org is cheaper than Starbucks and waaaay cheaper then tithing. And think of the leverage your donations here enable against the church! How many dollars of tithing money has Exmormon.org deprived Mormonism of for every dollar donated here? I don't know, but it's a fun thing to think about.

Remember that no one in our administrative/moderator cadre gets paid for their work. We are strictly volunteers. All of the donated money goes to paying expenses involved in running the site.

We will post an anonymized list of donations as they come in. We will also pull down this request as soon as we have enough money for the coming year.

Thank you for your continued support and generosity!

CZ (ever grateful admin)



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 04/05/2021 01:01PM by Concrete Zipper.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: March 20, 2021 07:02PM

We could put on a play!!

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: March 21, 2021 01:59PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> We could put on a play!!

That wouldn't work!

(My play on words)

If words don't work,
Let 'em play!

I'd better get back to work

Donations coming
But I'm going

To (make or join a) play
Today

P.S. thanks everyone at RFM, (THIS = Thank Heaven Its Sunday), a living, breathing, day!

M@t

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Posted by: gemini ( )
Date: March 20, 2021 09:59PM

done. always glad to do so.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: March 21, 2021 12:48PM

Done!!

Thank you, Eric and CZ!!

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Posted by: Sustaining Member of RfM ( )
Date: March 21, 2021 02:28PM

Here's a list of my current online subscriptions and their costs:

Amazon Prime TV & music - Part of the annual price

YouTube Premium - $9.99/month

YouTube TV - $65/month

Spectrum internet & TV - $89/month

SLTrib - $150/year


odds are I left a couple of smaller one out. But the point is made, we probably all pay for content and the one content many of us would not want to lose, we're not paying that much for, if anything at all.

I like the idea of a yearly fundraising right at April Conference. It does my heart good to contrast the two events.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: March 21, 2021 03:11PM

Done, with pleasure.

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Posted by: TopperToppington ( )
Date: March 21, 2021 04:38PM

Topping and donating.


TopperToppington (exmoBB forever).

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: March 21, 2021 05:14PM


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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 21, 2021 07:20PM

Thankyou!! We are now over $600 today. Thanks to all that are able to contribute.

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Posted by: Year of the Dragon ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 01:45AM

:)

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 10:58AM

Thank you all who donate. What a blessing it is to have RfM. The sister missionaries were here last night. They were hyping up GC. Please. Like that is a blessing for anyone!

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 02:07PM


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Posted by: Concrete Zipper ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 02:26PM

We need at *least* $2500 for the next year.

CZ

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 03:09PM

So, $2,780, so that after tithing, you're left with $2,502?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 03:21PM

If 100 people donate 1% we have it.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 03:45PM

Taking this logic farther, if 100 people donate 100% you and I can steal 9900% and RfM is none the worse for wear.

The possibilities are endless!

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 03:48PM

My retirement account isn't growing as much as when I was younger. Great idea. Like a little blue pill for my senile years.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 04:32PM

Done

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 07:20PM


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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 22, 2021 07:26PM

W00t!

The balance is beginning to be restored in the exmo force. The mists of darkness have never been stronger!

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 23, 2021 11:02AM

Every little bit helps.

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Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/23/2021 11:29AM by Elder Berry.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 24, 2021 12:51PM

Topping for an update please?

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 24, 2021 04:12PM


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Posted by: pollythinks ( )
Date: March 24, 2021 04:05PM

Thanks for the heads-up notice.

I hate to be trite, but my check will soon be in the mail.

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 24, 2021 04:20PM

The $1100 does not include direct payments to Wingnet. I will add those when they give me the number.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: March 24, 2021 05:11PM

You should switch to EOD's hosting service. There's not much different between a Wingnet and a Wingnut.

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 07:09PM

My cheque is coming from the Great White (snowy/frozen) North so who knows how long it takes to get to America. It's up to a week this year so far to travel 20 miles by post.

I should get with the century and pay online...

I wish I could pay the balance but uh, COVID. It nearly killed my job and recovery is excruciatingly slow...

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Posted by: Dorothy ( )
Date: March 24, 2021 05:17PM

This dinosaur likes the check option. Do I make the check out to Wingnet?

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 24, 2021 05:59PM

Yes, our ISP is Wingnet. We are looking at cheaper options such as making this current bb static - ie nothing will get lost and all posts saved for searching, but cannot add to it and have a new bb. That will save us a ton right there. Being worked on now.

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 01:08PM

to keeping the site going.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 02:18PM

Send in 10¢ per post
$1 for each deleted post.
$2 for each time you used the denizens of RFM as therapists.
$5 for each time you mentioned Einstein, Michio Kaku, or Carl Sagan.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 03:17PM

So the Tao is free?

I admire you for that!

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Posted by: Hmmmmm ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 02:29PM

I am going to go out on a limb (given that I donated just under 10% of the current total, I don't mind the effort) and opine that some of the 'by-the-word-count' leading writers may not have done right by RfM.

I know that the owner(s)/ruler(s) of this website are not charging by the word, but I don't mind calling out some of the leading lights here, [*** individuals' names edited out by CZ ***], etc., to look into their souls, along with their pocketbooks, if they haven't already done so.

At least one of these individuals is still working, just got a new, higher-paying job, and uses quite a large portion of the resources. I think it would be very tacky if that RfMer didn't kick in a nice chunk of change.

Should the owner(s)/ruler(s) think like that?

Should they care what we, the plebes think?

Opinions?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/25/2021 02:43PM by Concrete Zipper.

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Posted by: Concrete Zipper ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 02:41PM

Please don't call out individuals. We don't know anyone's particular circumstances or ability to pay and don't want to make anyone feel bad about the fundraiser.

We're not the cult. We're here to help people.

Plus I'm the only one who is allowed to make people feel guilty here. (Well... Susan I/S has perpetual permission to do so, but she guards her powers jealously.)

Here's my guilt trip: If you have the means and you make use of the board, please donate generously. We really do need the full $2500 to keep running for another year, otherwise we're going to have to have another fundraiser before that. I don't want this place to turn into public radio with its endless agonizing pledge breaks.

I thank you all for your generosity in donating, as well as for the insightful words that you post on the board. Both are important for our mission of helping to heal those harmed by Mormonism.

CZ (loving and almighty admin)

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 03:06PM

Concrete Zipper Wrote:
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> I thank you all for your generosity in donating,
> as well as for the insightful words that you post
> on the board. Both are important for our mission
> of helping to heal those harmed by Mormonism.

And it is a lot cheaper than some other kinds of therapy.

Thanks almighty admins and Mr. E for this site.

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Posted by: ookami ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 03:15PM

Elder Berry Wrote:
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> And it is a lot cheaper than some other kinds of
> therapy.

True.

Even though I couldn't donate as much as I'd like, I still gave something to thank admin and the board for putting up with me.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 03:19PM

> ... I still gave something to
> thank admin and the board for
> putting up with me.


Heavens! Lots Wife and I don't have that kind of money!!!!

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 03:20PM

But put you two together and you have a salty dog. That has to be worth something on the open market.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 05:56PM

I don't understand how the Mormon church isn't funding RfM as a means for harvesting names and sending out people to bother exmos.

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Posted by: CrispingPin ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 06:18PM

I tried. When I was a member, I even posted my membership number here. I really hoped to be contacted by the SCMC, but I guess they didn’t see me as a threat.

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 06:52PM

You can't reap what you don't sow, or sew, so...

I had you at fundit, however...

It was more in the sense of Mormonism- in and of itself- is so negligible, abhorrent, and slothful when it comes to OWNERSHIP, and RESPONSIBILITY to its followers and supporters, and (actual) Christlike thoughts, behaviours and actions - and LYING about its past - that it doesn't even care about it's wake.

It is careless.

IF Mormonism cared, it would (Feel Something) [Say Something] DO SOMETHING... like Tithe on itself, you know, Practice What It Preaches, put ONE TENTH of 10℅ into DOING GOD'S WORK: helping those it has harmed, lied to, mislead, silenced, shunned, screwed, forgotten (children of God? Right), neglected, defrauded, taken advantage of ("callings"/ appointments [disappointments]/ positions and impositions), defamed, deluded, conned, dragged through the mud, etc., etc., etc. = Giving Back, Paying It Forward, Doing Good Deeds.

Instead, it is doing nothing.

It thinks ONLY of itself.

Because the "leaders" can't even follow their own commands (like begging, healing, rolling over, or, well, maybe just playing dead), the tin commandmints, their own suggestions, or even the particles of flakes.

With the millions, and billions, TSCC wastes, it's people it doesn't care about... Until [IF they are men] they reach the top.

It would rather build buildings - of faith, fate and marble - than have fair trade, harmonious communities, and healthy, honest, open discussion.

Mormonism is a taker
NOT a giver

It could give a damn
But it is too cheap

I wish we could have a weekly community picnic.

This online crap has got to go! You know-

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 07:11PM

Sending money to wingnut, I mean wingnet (that's like fishing for a bird), or maybe I can plug some digits in here.

P.S. do you take bits/ coin, corn (or bites of bitten corn = bitcorn?), or, oh yeah, bitcoin?

I have another idea.
Oh well, we'd better try it elsewhere. It just might not fly here. Not everything flies! Well, I do, but that's beside (and inside) the point.

I could wire some money... but I'm on a highwire at the moment.

I'm going to let my fingers so the walking while my mouth stops talking.

Long Live RFM
And All-Of-US

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 07:32PM

moremany Wrote:
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> Long Live RFM

In the name of fleas and lice, Amen ~ Elder Dog.

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 07:36PM


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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 07:07PM

Done. I will return and report :)
This site has helped me safe so much tithing money. Can not thank you enough.

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Posted by: wondering ( )
Date: March 25, 2021 08:14PM

Done

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 26, 2021 11:51AM

We are just over $1400.00. I will stop topping now. Mail ins will help. We are good to Dec. of this year with just the paypal contributions.

Thank You!

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: March 26, 2021 01:45PM

Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa cause we have until Christmas to help people with their Mormonism.

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Posted by: cricket ( )
Date: March 26, 2021 03:28PM

I've have not stopped by for a while and almost missed out on the fundraiser. Just sent $100.00 to Eric for the hosting fees. Now if could just hack into Ensign Peak Advisors to retrieve my lost tithing extortions and send that to Eric to cover hosting fees for the next three decades. LOL

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Posted by: Concrete Zipper ( )
Date: March 26, 2021 03:45PM

Thanks for the donation, cricket. It's always good to see you here.

Ensign Peak Advisors really should be donating to RfM. A modest donation from them ($100K) is less than a millionth of what they've accumulated from tithe payers, and we're cleaning up so much damage that the church has done. That amount could keep us up and running for a long time.

C'mon, EPA guys, at least consider it. For a donation of $100K, I'll not only supply a gift of an original artwork, but I'll cook the donor a nice dinner at my place. BTW, that offer is open to anyone.

CZ

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: March 26, 2021 05:10PM

You must be a good cook. :)

I'd have to pay someone to eat my burnt offerings.

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Posted by: cricket ( )
Date: March 26, 2021 09:21PM

Now Nightengale, don't go Old Testament on us? LOL

If I'm ever on the east coast, specifically New England having dinner at CZ's place and catching up on all things exmo would be a total blast. CZ and Eric K made a huge positive impression upon me when I was a newbie exmo. I met them both for the first time way back when exmo annual meetups were held in Las Vegas.

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Posted by: Dorothy ( )
Date: March 29, 2021 12:51AM

Where there's smoke there's dinner!!

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Posted by: sunbeep ( )
Date: March 26, 2021 11:33PM

I will make my donation "mormon style"

/comes in late
/walks across the front of the congregation with nose held high
/walks up onto the podium while the prelude is still playing
/walks across the podium again in front of the whole congregation
/pulls out an envelope in an overly dramatic motion
/looks out over the audience to see who is watching me wave that envelope around in the air
/hands the envelope to the bishop
/looks out over the audience once more
/walks across the podium just like before
/walks across in front of the congregation and up the far isle
/scans the audience to see who is watching me
/takes my seat with righteous flair
/smugly picks up a hymn book and pretends to be turning the pages
/smiles to myself because I know that there are only three dollars in that envelope

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Posted by: OzDoc ( )
Date: March 27, 2021 04:27AM

A small contribution from faraway

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Posted by: Eric K ( )
Date: March 27, 2021 02:22PM


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Posted by: Concrete Zipper ( )
Date: April 05, 2021 01:21PM

Thank you exmos! As of today, we are at over $2600, easily besting our goal and providing us with funds to keep operating for another year. We now have "sufficient for our needs", in contrast to a certain corporation with a twelve figure investment portfolio.

I want to thank everyone for their kindness and generosity in donating. The exmo community continues to amaze me.

CZ (teary eyed with gratitude)

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