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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 01:53PM

If you are a true believer no proof is necessary!

If you don't believe it no proof is possible!

What thinkest thou?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2021 01:54PM by thedesertrat1.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 02:00PM

If you are a true believer, you have already accepted something as your proof, so you already have it.

If you don't believe it and are unwilling to accept proof when presented with it, you're being ignorant.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 02:25PM

> If you don't believe it
> no proof is possible!


I think that if I'm correct about the point you want to make, the above sentence should read:

    "If you don't want to believe it, no proof is possible."

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 02:49PM

thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> What thinkest thou?

I think you are thinking in black and white.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:27PM

That is very probably so
What are you thinking in?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:30PM

Why, EB is thinking in all the colours of the rainbow of course!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/06/2021 03:31PM by Lot's Wife.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:31PM

Or, in American English, "EB is thinking in all the colors of the rainbow of corse!"

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 05:55PM

LOL

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 05:57PM

thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> What are you thinking in?

My body. It isn't blank or white but more tan-ish. I sometimes think ahead of myself and forget my body has to keep up. Labeling people through their thinking is never a good idea to me.

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 06:23PM

Blank and White

Black is blank

Blank is back

Blank is Beautiful

I am blank

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 08, 2021 02:35PM

moremany Wrote:
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> I am blank

Or at least were as a baby?

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 06:33PM

Elder Berry Wrote:
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> thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> > What thinkest thou?
>
> I think you are thinking in black and white.
of course I am. How else can I stimulate controversy?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 08, 2021 02:35PM

It is a great way except when you reduce things to the absurd. Then it just becomes noise.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: May 08, 2021 09:38PM

Mormon Skittles: Taste the stupid.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 10, 2021 11:28AM

50 percent sweeter than regular Skittles.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 10, 2021 11:37AM

Elder Berry Wrote:
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> thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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> > What thinkest thou?
>
> I think you are thinking in black and white.
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 10, 2021 12:04PM

Thinking in color is better, more enjoyable, harder, and more rewarding in my opinion.

Good luck with seeing a binary world.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 02:53PM

And if proof is irrelevant to you on either side. That's where I'm at.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:00PM

Indifference: the ultimate sign of recovery.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:53PM

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> Indifference: the ultimate sign of recovery.
I LIKE THAT IDEA!!!

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 10:40AM

Right, LW--it's indifference.
I mentioned on a different thread I really go weeks or longer without Christian Science coming into my thoughts. When I drive past the CS world headquarters--almost daily--my attention is on traffic, not the cult.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 10, 2021 12:05PM

Not many indifferent people here.

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 06:28PM

Me too-

I go by instinct.

Mormonism Stinks!

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:02PM

No amount of evidence ever convinced a fool of anything.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:17PM

I admire your bravery in admitting that.

It's a good first step.

You can do it!!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:21PM

I aspire some day to find an image for "ouch" that could be encorporated in the design of a trendy exercise shoe.

Now THAT would be civilised, Ms. Sayers!

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 03:26PM

Right
You can't cure stupid

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 10, 2021 11:39AM

schrodingerscat Wrote:
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> No amount of evidence ever convinced a fool of
> anything.

YEAH CAT CAT CAT

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 10, 2021 01:18PM

schrodingerscat Wrote:
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> No amount of evidence ever convinced a fool of
> anything.

Oh, the irony. . .

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 04:00PM

The ultimate false dichotomy.

Nobody fits into the True Believer or True Disbeliever categories on all subjects all the time. Many people don't fit into them most of the time.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 06, 2021 06:01PM

Any ideas on why he does it here?

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 12:14AM

If you are a true believer then you see proof in everything.

God made the rainbow.

How could complex life evolve without god?

I heard a voice!

Thank god I was inspired to ------ vs _________.!

My favorite "evidence" of the truthliness of the BOM is that both the Israelites and Mayans wore sandals.

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Posted by: Richard Foxe ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 01:30AM

Proof = what it takes to convince you.

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Posted by: Happy_Heretic ( )
Date: May 08, 2021 07:25PM

Can you convince me that is true?

HH =)

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Posted by: Tea Wrecks ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 01:00PM

What constitutes proof ?

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 01:01PM

Tea Wrecks Wrote:
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> What constitutes proof ?
Now that is a good question.
What is your answer?

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 06:30PM

Proof of what?

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 06:31PM

moremany Wrote:
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> Proof of what?
proof that what is presented as true actually is true

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: May 07, 2021 09:26PM

thedesertrat1 Wrote:
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And that's just what I'm saying...

> proof that what is presented as true actually is true >

Mormon leadershit assumes if you need or want proof you are either too smart, too cool, or too much for them.

Not only is it not true... It's also grossly false, offensive and off course.

Proof is one thing.
Stench is another.

I use my instinks.
Mormonism Stinks!

It can't even lie straight, right out of the gate!

It's like a pyramid scheme of the spiritual nature, that affects different people differently.

It's like proof?
What proof?

That's what I'm saying...

80 proof

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Posted by: olderelder ( )
Date: May 08, 2021 06:49PM

And that's the problem with belief.

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Posted by: JoeSmith666 ( )
Date: May 08, 2021 11:14PM

Sign in front of a Church a few decades ago.

When you have Faith

Facts don't matter.

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: May 13, 2021 06:29PM

As we see with so many things these days, people believe what they want to believe and seek out sources to back up their already-chosen beliefs. The sources do NOT have to be credible. And when they get close to something that looks credible but that challenges their paradigm, it is very scary for them.

The fake “prophets” have been 100% right about one thing. If you don’t want to lose your belief in the mormon church, don’t go anywhere near so-called anti-mormon literature (e.g. facts). Just don’t. And I’m ok with that. I wanted nothing more than to not be a mormon. But I never dwelt on that because I believed that something that could make me 100% sure it was bunk could not possibly exist. And short of that I wasn’t going to risk my eternal salvation. I was wrong. And when I found that out, I was so glad to be done.

People who ARE happy with being Mormon, I mean actually happy, not just claiming to be, should follow the profit, bask in their beliefs and be happy. Anymore, as long as they don’t try to push it on me, I don’t care what they want to believe or how idiotic they want to look.

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Posted by: NormaRae ( )
Date: May 13, 2021 06:30PM


Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/13/2021 06:32PM by NormaRae.

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