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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: June 01, 2021 09:49PM

re: "why i left the lds church for good" ~ by ziller's girl ~ haleigh everts ~


https://youtu.be/57D08zC4v1E

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: June 02, 2021 04:38AM

This is a really good video for those who just had their Mormon world implode. But if Haleigh is your girl, why is she looking at me?

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: June 02, 2021 07:53AM

I have literally watched all of her videos on youtube. If there is one piece of advice I would like to give to her it would be "slow down". Finding out that Mormonism is false turned my life upside down. It takes time to find a new way of living. Leaving Mormonism, stop wearing garments, take down the wedding pictures, take of the wedding ring, getting a divorce, getting a tattoo "faith', all within a few weeks is going really fast. Go to a non-lds marriage counselor, give your husband some time to deal with all your new discoveries. It took me months of going back and forth the church is false but maybe it could still be true? Joseph Smith made some mistakes but could he still have brought the truth back as an imperfect man? I was not able to sweet talk polygamy or polyandry. Joseph went behind Emma's back with other women. So I thought to myself alright Joseph smith was a sketchy man but Brigham Young (BYU) he was the prophet who was a righteous man. Wow did I read quotes from Brigham Young he is just as bad as Joseph smith. 2020 I learned about the "Rainy Day" Fund worth billions. It really takes time to take it all in, the multiple first visions, the sear stone all that.

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Posted by: cheezus ( )
Date: June 02, 2021 07:12PM

Yeah...Slllloooooooooowwwwww doooooooooownn. I hope she and the soon to be ex-husband do not descend into a bitter divorce. I felt a little uncomfortable when she was holding back on bad mouthing CJ. What ever his problems are, the super-classy thing is to not give us an idea that he has more problems than we have already heard about. That was my one cringe moment in the video where she tells us that. I wonder if the LDS law arm will help CJ lawyer-up thinking about custody of kids and what not. In the chess game of life, one might need to appear to be thinking before letting your opponent know you have moved.

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: June 03, 2021 07:53AM

At 26:52 minutes in he tries to proof that the church is true to her.Sadly in my own faith journey I used to read FAIRMormon because I just knew that Mormonism had to be true. Reading mormonthink felt like reading something forbidden that I should not do. It took me months to accept that it is all made up. The fuzzy feelings that I had at young women's camp must have been the holy ghost saying to me that this is the true church. Slowly I found out that young women's camp is made to create those feelings. By singing songs together and by listening to faith promoting stories.
I was a stay at home mom when we left the lds church and my so called Mormon mommy friends would not talk to me anymore once we resigned our membership. Those friendships were fake friendships based on church attendance and temple worthiness and I broke the contract and left the club. She needs to take it slow and not throw out the baby with the bath water.

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Posted by: cheezus ( )
Date: June 03, 2021 11:42AM

I remember when I gave myself permission to look at any source and go beyond anything 'church approved'. It felt like I was doing something extremely forbidden and that I had to cover my tracks so as to not get caught...the imagined consequences would be worse than getting caught with porn. Mormonthink was certainly more helpful and insightful than FAIR or the church website.

Funny you mention girl's camp. My daughters have been attending for a while... every year I tell them "remember to bear FERVENT testimony when the time comes." And I tell them that is what it is all about. I think that helps them realize at some level what is going on there. When I pick them up I ask if they bore FERVENT testimony. They alway tell me they don't. I think they are inoculated from the emotional manipulation.

The scripture that flashes at the time stamp you mention as Haleigh is shown in the Bible the truthiness of it all... she should have pulled out the JW Bible just to freak him out and show how screwed up all the 'scriptures' can be. The JW version is nothing short of a verbal shitshow. It is beautiful inthat it is a masterpiece of smeared verbal 'muerde'.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: June 03, 2021 11:54PM

“She needs to take it slow and not throw out the baby with the bath water.”

What baby?

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Posted by: subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: June 06, 2021 12:26PM

Her marriage. In my opinion she should not talk about her husband's issues online that is his story to tell. He is a chiropractor and if a patient googles his name Haleigh's videos are coming up.

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Posted by: alsd ( )
Date: June 13, 2021 06:25PM

subeamnotlogedin Wrote:
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> Her marriage. In my opinion she should not talk
> about her husband's issues online that is his
> story to tell. He is a chiropractor and if a
> patient googles his name Haleigh's videos are
> coming up.

Yeah, I thought that was totally classless on her part.

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Posted by: fritz ( )
Date: June 02, 2021 07:56AM

I could not stand listening for more than 5 minutes. This Ex-Mormon makes the Mormon church sound like a progressive force. And I am a very conservative person myself (though secular).

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: June 02, 2021 01:59PM

She left, right?
Left again...

Book it exmo

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Posted by: Phazer ( )
Date: June 04, 2021 09:01AM

How many months will it take for her belief in the Bible and Jesus concept falters.

I hope she finds a more compatible husband. 2 young kids and single parent situation sucks in the long run.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: June 09, 2021 12:00AM

She seems flaky to me. As you listen to her describe her life she's all over the place. I don't think she has any idea who she is or what she wants. Such people leave broken marriages, disfunction, lot's of moves and not really a dedication to anything.

The church seems to appeal to flaky and guliable people looking for some magical solution to their life. All I can say is there are no free lunches or magical solutions. People who believe in such are fodder for the predators and snake oil salesmen.

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Posted by: babyloncansuckit ( )
Date: June 13, 2021 05:09PM

“Such people leave broken marriages, disfunction, lot's of moves and not really a dedication to anything.”

Is she available?

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Posted by: moremany ( )
Date: June 09, 2021 03:31AM

That's the only way to leave it.

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Posted by: cheezus ( )
Date: June 11, 2021 09:55AM

Needs to be in slow motion with an explosion behind you and you continue walking in stride... like in the movies. Of course it is all symbolism..not suggesting the explosion is anything other than pyrotechnics for effect. One might even utter the words "Yippi Ki Yay Mother F*****"

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: June 13, 2021 11:57AM

> "Yippi Ki Yay Mother F*****"


You're gonna get in trouble if you reveal any more of the Temple script!!!!

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Posted by: cheezus ( )
Date: June 13, 2021 04:51PM

..... repeated three times.

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