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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: July 03, 2021 08:02PM

Might be fun to search our memories to see if we can remember what church approved non english versions of the bible are used around the world.

Any able to enlighten us?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: July 03, 2021 08:28PM

I don't know if the Portuguese version they used had a specific name associated with it, but it was written in an archaic form of Portuguese, and that form was used in LDS prayer language.

I found it pretty annoying. It's not like learning a foreign language isn't hard enough without slathering on another layer to deal with.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: July 03, 2021 08:54PM

Joao Almeida I believe. It was translated from Spanish in the 1600s.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: July 03, 2021 10:22PM

Bingo! It was the Almeida translation. He was a Dutch Reformed minister who worked in various places around the world that were Dutch or Portuguese colonies.

I looked up Almeida on wikipedia and his entry mentioned that the Mormons published their version of the Almeida Bible. I followed that link to LDS Inc.

They said their version is "based on" the 1914 version of the Almeida Bible, which had updates of vocabulary and grammar. It was released in 2015, so pretty recent.

I suspect the "based on" comment means LDS Inc did a little tweaking of any bits that were too discordant with their own theology.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: July 03, 2021 08:29PM

The Cipriano de Valera version is what we used when I was in Mexico. That’s the only name by which I knew it.

Wikipedia says Sr. Valera revised an already existing Spanish translation done by Casiodoro de Reina, and it’s called the Valera-Reina version.

This has left my testimony in shambles!

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Posted by: logged out today ( )
Date: July 03, 2021 08:58PM

The church-approved French version is the Louis Segond translation. (19th-c Swiss theologian)

Full-frontal Protestant.

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Posted by: dogbloggernli ( )
Date: July 03, 2021 11:14PM

Einheits Übersetzung for German speakers. It's the 'unity' translation for Lutheran and Catholic use. It included the Apocrypha.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: July 04, 2021 01:31PM

From which version and language of the bible were they translated?

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: July 04, 2021 11:40PM

Each one has it's own history. Some versions are 400 years old, others less than 100.

A thanks to everyone that posted. I wonder come conference time if anyone checks the biblical references to see if they are translated correctly.

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Posted by: Gordon B. Stinky ( )
Date: July 05, 2021 05:02PM

I meant to point out in the “King James” thread that one reason they use these ancient translations, in spite of their shortcomings, is because they are in the public domain, and can be published without any restrictions. A biggie is that they don’t have to support the ongoing research (i.e. pay). There are other stump-jumping backwoods churches that print their own versions, or abridged versions, of the King James Bible for similar reasons. For example, (sadly) a friend’s wife attends an independent Baptist church that prints their own bibles, and they just leave out the parts that their preacher doesn’t approve of. For example, she says things like, “James has no ‘authority’,” whatever that means.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: July 07, 2021 01:20PM

Just like the KJV uses archaic English, which somehow makes Mormons believe in it even more, the Italian Diodati Bible version uses archaic Italian. It's like reading Dante, or something. When I was on a mission to Italy in the late 1960's, we had maybe three versions in use, because no one had stipulated which to use. But the Diodati version became more and more popular among American members in Italy, precisely because it is more difficult to understand than something in modern Italian.

I've talked Bible with my very TBM sister, and she loves the KJV because it's in archaic English, and so therefore is more "meaningful" when read (according to her), even though I pointed out that no one understands very archaic things, like "...wist ye not..., or old conjugations of verbs, and use of nouns that have to be explained to the class right when you're in the middle of a quote. As for the churchc, I think that it also gives LDS, Inc. two things: 1.) Since one quarter of the BoM was lifted verbatim from the 1769 KJV, Mormons have to use the KJV in order to prop up the BoM; 2.) simultaneously, it also gives them an excuse to call out "mistakes" in the Bible, which gives them a convenient escape each time that the Bible doesn't support the Mormon doctrine, so that " far as translated correctly" becomes a real handy tool when a doctrine or belief isn't supported by the Bible.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: July 07, 2021 03:40PM

Norwegian, anyone?

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