Here is the dilemma: Joe jr., without a shred of supporting evidence, claimed to have spoken to God and Jesus Christ Based on his later propensity for perpetrating lies can he be believed?
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/18/2021 10:32AM by thedesertrat1.
Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Haha. I know, right? > > It's like when my Dad in an attempt to get me back > to the church said, "Satan is so clever he can > fool even the very elite." > > All I could think of was, "Thank you, Dad." You are therefore among the "very elite"
I'm very aware that the vast majority of humans will lie in order to improve their situations, with the divergence from truth based on the extremely variable concept of "just what can I/We get away with".
People who don't/won't lie are seen as very strange, weird, and maybe even dangerous!
The assumption that paid, public servants only lie when their lips are moving is based on centuries of research.
elderolddog Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm very aware that the vast majority of humans > will lie in order to improve their situations, > with the divergence from truth based on the > extremely variable concept of "just what can I/We > get away with". > > People who don't/won't lie are seen as very > strange, weird, and maybe even dangerous! > > The assumption that paid, public servants only lie > when their lips are moving is based on centuries > of research.
Aint it the truth---aint it the truth---aint it the truth
What kind of fool tells the truth in a world where lying is much more effective in getting what you want?
For me the problem isn't the lying, it is the rampant gullibility that makes it worth while. People tend to believe what they hear, especially if its salacious or whacko, and are reluctant to change their minds even when facts come to light.
This is a case of "innocent until proven guilty" biting everyone on the butt.
eternal1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Reminds me of Yoda, "No. Try no. Do or do not. > There is no try." HOW CORRECT YOU ARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It has been my experience that anyone who claims to have talked with God is either full of bologna or was trippin' balls at the time. Either way, Smith didn't sea the god of the Old Testament or Jesus Christ. I actually knew someone who left the church and did a bunch of psychedelics and then he rejoined. When I asked him why he rejoined, he said that he found Jesus while on acid. To each their own I guess.
thedesertrat1 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Here is the dilemma: > Joe jr., without a shred of supporting evidence, > claimed to have spoken to God and Jesus Christ > Based on his later propensity for perpetrating > lies can he be believed?
They NEVER Identified themselves as God and Jesus, did they?
Might it have been "The GOD of This World" - as taught in the Temple? You know, the guy who has you wearing his Apron all the way into the Celestial Room?
Maybe it was him introducing his son, Wardell... or a hired actor?