Date: September 04, 2021 03:16PM
The church moral is way down from where it was in the 70’s. But the church no longer has road shows, creative fundraisers, gold and green balls, church sports teams, church fairs and ward camp outs.
Now it’s pay the corporation, do your calling, making sure you aren’t violating some church policy, parrot the last general conference talks and feeling the world hates you due to the out of touch and out of date church leadership and their unpopular policies still stuck in the 19th century.
Date: September 04, 2021 05:05PM
had stopped going, but she still does, off up there in Alaska.
When I was in young womens in the late 1980s, they wouldn't let us do anything fun with the kids, but I did anyway. The girls used to complain about what we had to do and it was weekly. We were supposed to base all our weeknight "activities" to goals in their "personal progress" books, which we didn't have when I was first called to the job as the church had stopped the old program and hadn't finished the new program. I got in trouble a few times for having fun activities for the girls and so asked to be released. One of the snotty girls mentioned loud enough for me to hear that now maybe they could have some fun. And later she came to me and told me how much she wished I was their leader again, as did many of the other 23 girls I had in Beehives.
I always thought while doing this job that if they want to keep the kids in the church, you have to do things with them that build a relationship with the girls and not just be a boss to them. Even if many of the girls have now moved away, there are some who still get in touch with me even if I'm a sinner. Some of them have left the church, too. In fact, the 2 sisters who babysat for me and were the bishop's daughters have left the church.
Date: September 04, 2021 06:51PM
The Church in 2021 no longer pushes that it's the ONE TRUE CHURCH as we have been told forever. I am not really active in Church but in the day I had been to Church all over the world.
As work made me travel a lot, I was able to not attend my ward regularly and that was a good excuse I guess. I married a non-member who was supportive and even came to Church sometimes and I baptised her parents when they joined the Church. She never joined but I did bless and baptise our son.
I'd go to Church and people gave testimonies that were not stories about their dog, or their neighbor or things which have nothing to do with the veracity of the Church.
I have been to Church on zoom (invited by friends) and a couple of times in person since Covid hit and I could go.
It's hollow. There's no warm, fuzzy feeling anymore. I agree, it felt like I was with a bunch of zombies. The Church leaders hang out with popes and priests and pastors and laugh and joke with them and attending interfaith meetings with them. If you are the ONE TRUE Church wouldn't you be at these conferences preaching the TRUE Gospel?
And years ago there was the I AM MORMON campaign and Nelson says that if we use the name Mormon, Jesus is offended? I guess back a decade ago, Jesus didn't offend so easily?
I have a friend who is a Bishop and there are so few active priesthood holders that his 1st counselor is gay. It's not talked about but he knows it and he said that he's a good man. Even the stake approved but I guess Salt Lake City doesn't know about it.....or maybe they do? In the case of not enough people, they will call a gay member to a position of authority?
A gay counselor in a Bishopric? Heads would explode. The Church is imploding. I attend now and again to keep up to what's going on. The three hours now are 2 hours, shorter missions, I want to know what's going on so that I have something to talk to the few LDS friends I still have.
I won't say which wards in Toronto I attended, but I have been to the Ossington chapel more than once and they did have a nice Spanish ward. Been years since I have been to that city....
Date: September 06, 2021 01:35PM
Before the LTM and then the MTC, you learned your language "in-country", and they figured you weren't much your first year, so in 'hard language' countries, you were called to a three-year mission.
At the LTM, your time there did not count against the two-year mission. I "served" 27 months, and that was with a one-month early release to get into the Y. My SLC Mission Home companion served 28 months because we had a one-month visa delay; he stayed the full 24 months in-country.
My grandson was out 24 months, including his time at the MTC; I assume, but don't know, that the standard stay at the MTC is shorter than three months.
Apparently ghawd is no longer all that hard-core.