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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 02:36PM

I readily admit that the following is conjecture on my part. Yet I have given it serious consideration. It is more believable to ancient astronaut theorists than to creationists and evolutionists.
There are some things with which I have come in contact that have given cause to my thought and reasoning processes. Consider the journey of the three wise men. They were led by a light emitting from a star that hovered above them and directed them toward Bethlehem.
What if there were ancient astronauts that had taken interest in the events unfolding and were lending a hand to facilitate their completion? Almost without exception when human beings have reported encounters with UFOs they speak of a light flashing down from the craft. So is it possible that otherworldly beings provided compas for the wise men to follow? Also let's look at time and distance. How far did these wise men have to travel and how long did it take them to get there?
It is most probable that they came Iraq, Iran, or Arabia. So it is reasonable to assume that their journey could have taken several months. If this were true then they would have been informed of the pregnancy near its' beginning or at the latest in the fourth month.
I cannot comprehend them being informed after the fact,making the journey, going to Herod and still finding the baby in a manger.
So continuing with the concept that the magi were guided by extraterrestrials would it then follow that these same beings would, by means of their intelligence sources be able to warn both the Magi and Joseph and Mary to “Get the hell out of dodge”?

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 02:56PM

O. M. G.

Here I wondered how people could actually think aliens were interested in probing human rear ends.

LOL ancient astronaut theorists LOL

You're a great guy thedesertrat1, but sheesh. This takes the cake. Yeah, it was so important for those wise men to bring gold, frankincense, and myrrh that aliens wanted to help. It's a good thing the aliens were tracking Mary's pregnancy.

Besides, everyone knows smart aliens would have been more interested in Zeus or Siddhattha Gotama. J/K

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 03:10PM

Hey If Ancient aliens on TV can have an opinion why can't I?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 03:15PM

That, at last, is a winning argument!

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 07:09AM


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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 04:52PM

You can buy a lamp designed as a UFO beaming up a cow. Replace the cow with Baby Jesus! Explains everything.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 06:22PM

Does it come with an anal probe?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 14, 2021 03:37PM

> Here I wondered how people
> could actually think aliens
> were interested in probing
> human rear ends.


You may be confusing 'aliens' with 'illegal aliens' . . .

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Posted by: Wardell ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 05:18PM

I prefer Harvey, the 6 foot tall rabbit that Jimmy Stewart had in the movies. He was as real as Jesus.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 06:12PM

If Joseph Smith were alive today he would be a UFO/New Age guru. He would go on Oprah, sell lots of books and videos. Have a retreat in Sedona, Arizona getting more ass than a toilet seat from the cut and naive women that are attracted to such forms of spiritualism.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 06:20PM

The great mind fuck of Christianity is it’s a sin to ask for evidence. If you buy a house don’t you want to see that it actually exists and to go in and see what condition it’s in? Don’t you want to have an expert do an inspection?

In Christianity you just have to take it all in faith and if you don’t have faith and you want evidence you are unworthy.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 11:16AM


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Posted by: Humberto ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 06:41PM

Sure, an alien craft could be an explanation for the star of Bethlehem, but you're skipping a few steps...

First you need to prove that the birth of Jesus was a real event. Nobody's done that yet. Then you'd have to prove that the star of Bethlehem is more than just a story. You'd strengthen your case if you could show that real Magi actually visited an historical newborn Jesus. Maybe then you'd be at the stage of trying to show that the star was an alien guidance beacon.

If you could even conclusively demonstrate that first point, you'd be the star of more than just this board...but what you're proposing is just a mashup of bible and alien fantasy fiction. Maybe you can turn this into a novel and make some cash.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 06:45PM

He could sell the copyright in Canada. It’s been tried before.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 07:10AM


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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 11:52AM

He could start a religion. Is 85 too old to have a harem?

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 14, 2021 12:28PM

bradley Wrote:
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> He could start a religion. Is 85 too old to have a
> harem?
I would certainly hope NOT

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 11:44AM

Humberto Wrote:
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> Sure, an alien craft could be an explanation for
> the star of Bethlehem, but you're skipping a few
> steps...
>
> First you need to prove that the birth of Jesus
> was a real event. Nobody's done that yet. Then
> you'd have to prove that the star of Bethlehem is
> more than just a story. You'd strengthen your case
> if you could show that real Magi actually visited
> an historical newborn Jesus. Maybe then you'd be
> at the stage of trying to show that the star was
> an alien guidance beacon.
>
> If you could even conclusively demonstrate that
> first point, you'd be the star of more than just
> this board...but what you're proposing is just a
> mashup of bible and alien fantasy fiction. Maybe
> you can turn this into a novel and make some cash.
Actually my post was to stir up thinking and responses. There are millions of people on earth who are ancient astronaut theroists.

they may be right or wrong I don't care because what really matters, in my humble opinion, is how you live today and how you treat your fellow man.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/12/2021 11:49AM by thedesertrat1.

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Posted by: Dorothy ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 10:46PM

Millions? Maybe hundreds. Maybe.

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Posted by: Tea Wrecks ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 10:25PM

Let's not and say we did.

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Posted by: ByeByeChurch ( )
Date: September 11, 2021 11:50PM

Strongly recommend reading the book "Did Jesus Exist?" BY Bart D. Ehrman

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 11:09AM

    For me, what's worked is not caring if Jesus existed or not, and then just dealing with the fallout that does exists because of the inability for even his most frenzied believers to get things organized in a manner that does more than benefit the leaders in the respective religions.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 11:47AM

elderolddog Wrote:
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>     For me, what's worked is not caring if
> Jesus existed or not, and then just dealing with
> the fallout that does exists because of the
> inability for even his most frenzied believers to
> get things organized in a manner that does more
> than benefit the leaders in the respective
> religions.

You cannot know how much I hate it when you are right

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 04:29PM

"EOD is often right if you can see through the incoherence in which he shrouds his insights."

--Junior Quest, 17-year-old deacon, Matterhorn Ward, North Disneyland

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 04:49PM

    

    A 17-year-old Deacon is probably a real jerk-off . . .

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 05:35PM

I defer to your more abundant experience.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 10:11PM

        Remember, I only have the male perspective.

        What's it like being 17 and female?  Did you keep notes?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 10:21PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> What's it like being 17 and
> female?  

In the Mormon church? Boring.

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Posted by: Dorothy ( )
Date: September 12, 2021 10:48PM

Depressing. Endless lessons on Personal Progress and staying morally clean. Yawn.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 12:51PM

Hold on now! I quit church at 13 years old so I never made it to Teacher. I was 21 and still a Deacon when I assumed the mantle of Missionary and was made an Elder.

As a 21 year old Deacon, I was hardly a jerk off (well in the sense you used anyway). And in spite of being a 21 year old Deacon, I achieved the lofty and glorious position of AP as a missionary! AP, can you believe it?

Now day's I'm just my usual totally cool and hip self.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 03:43PM

I enjoy basking in the knowledge that I'm on speaking terms with the Captain of the Football Team's Rock Band Singer and Lead Guitarist.

...gives me goose pimples!

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 04:05PM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> ...gives me goose pimples!

That sounds like a randy teen and not a real thing.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 04:32PM

>> ...gives me goose pimples! <<

Careful, that could be shingles!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 09:59PM

    You know, old age, and the whacking me up 'side of the head that it does, is starting to have a definite effect on me ...
    
    I looked at it and looked at it and couldn't figure out what was wrong with 'goose pimples'!  It gave me goosebumps when I finally figured out the error of my ways . . .

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 02:09PM

"So is it possible that otherworldly beings provided compas for the wise men to follow?"

Given the Kolob in Mormon doctrine it isn't just possible but probable. It is either that or an actual star.

You are a credit to your religion.

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Posted by: thedesertrat1 ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 02:48PM

Elder Berry Wrote:
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> "So is it possible that otherworldly beings
> provided compas for the wise men to follow?"
>
> Given the Kolob in Mormon doctrine it isn't just
> possible but probable. It is either that or an
> actual star.
>
> You are a credit to your religion.

I do a lot of reading of publications that are, to say the least, questionable. BUT I do not dismiss them out of hand because who knows? somewhere among them ther might just be a hidden evidence of things not being what we have been told by the ecclesiastical hierarchy! Oh heaven forbid they should ever mislead us

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: September 13, 2021 05:34PM

Can I take a look under his robe?

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