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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 04:11PM

I have now joined the ranks of the American "fully vaccinateds."

:D

For me, the surprise in all three shots was how painless and physically "unnoticeable" the shot process was. I could feel the hand of the nurse on my shoulder each time, but I didn't feel anything else.

I very much like the new statistical group I just joined, and I wanted to share.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2021 08:46PM by Tevai.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 04:16PM

> I have now joined the ranks of
> the American "fully vaccinated.


For now . . .

There's still the Sigma Corona Pi variant waiting to smack us!

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Posted by: Concrete Zipper ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 07:38PM

I wonder why the beer company didn't have a "Corona contra Corona" ad campaign? Maybe they did and I missed it because I don't watch enough (or the right) commercials.

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Posted by: Tyson Dunn ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 01:17PM

"Covidien"

They've got to be hating the name of their brand by now.

Tyson

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Posted by: shortbobgirl ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 07:30PM

My family all in the fully vaxed category are opting to test before we get together. We decided better safe than sorry.

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Posted by: catnip ( )
Date: December 17, 2021 01:39AM

My DH remarked the other day that if you have had your two doses of vaccine plus the booster, and then get tested,you will test "positive" because you've had the vaccine and the booster!

Neither of us ever worked in the medical field, so truthfully, we don't understand. It makes sense to me that the covid cooties would show up on a test.

What am I not understanding here? How does the test differentiate between covid cooties that are causing illness, as opposed to covid antibodies caused by the vaccines?

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Posted by: ~ufotofu~ ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 07:31PM

In haven't been shot in a while and I still feel fine.

I'm not sure about the ranks.

Thanks

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 07:40PM

I prefer natural imPunity.

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:17PM

caffiend Wrote:
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>"Fully vaccinated"= an evolving paradigm.

The virus is evolving too.

Just sayin'.

I'm happy to know the science and medicine experts are on it.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: December 10, 2021 12:05AM

"The virus is evolving too."

Pretty soon it will invent religion.

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Posted by: ziller ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:19PM

congratulations on achieving your vaccination goals OPie ~

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:22PM

Good news, Tevai.

I think that's the first time I've ever seen people referred to as "vaccinateds". Ha, made me laugh.

My turn for a 3rd jab doesn't come up til January at the soonest. But I'll be there when they call my name. And very happy at the prospect. I don't want the virus or any of its variants, thankyouverymuch.

I hardly felt anything either at the point of delivery, Tevai. Then a sore arm for a few days. Nothing that Tylenol couldn't fix. A small price to pay to feel assured of relative safety. Within reason. Some precautions still apply until we're out of this most unwelcome thing in our lives.

It's great to hear your news, Tevai.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:32PM

Got my Moderna booster on Tuesday.
.woke up at 3AM Wednesday with chills and fever..back to normal today. I had the same reaction to the high potency flu shot too.



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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:45PM

That's because the new flu shots also contain microchips. Sometimes the worst side effects occur because the Microsoft and Apple programs are incompatible.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:49PM

I'm collecting all the best microchips, which I've heard will make me a better microchimp.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:54PM

Microchips are great with salsa but you have to eat so many of them. . .

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 08:59PM

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> That's because the new flu shots also contain
> microchips. Sometimes the worst side effects
> occur because the Microsoft and Apple programs are
> incompatible.

I'm afraid a few people will believe you. Quite a few. :(

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 09:08PM

I'm hoping to get "discovered" as a campaign strategist for the next presidential campaign.

I'll be the next Kellyanne Conway!

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Posted by: Mother Who Knows ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 01:49AM

I was thinking the same thing, Nightingale. Some people you can't joke with, these days. The converse is true, people tell me things, and I think they are joking, but they are NOT joking.

But I've found that, for many years in Utah, most Mormons have no sense of irony, or appreciation for satire or sarcasm. I risk only the occasional pun, or slapstick, and more often fall flat than not. OTOH, my California friends laugh at almost everything!

OT--all 3 Moderna shots didn't cause any pain at all in the arm, wheras, other shots make a very sore arm. People could hit me in the arm, and I wouldn't feel anything different. No reaction with the first shot, or the booster. Several hours of chills and fever which I mostly slept through, with the second shot. The younger adults had milder or no symptoms, and the grandchildren had no symptoms at all, and have had 2.

Congratulations to all the "fully-vaxxed". Have a wonderful holiday season!

Oh, I was with my funny cousin in California, and someone asked us if we were Mormons, because we live in Utah now. My cousin answered, "No, we're fully vaccinated." They laughed.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 02:05AM

That was a wicked funny reply!

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 01:18PM

I agree!

:D

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Posted by: taratoo ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 12:55AM

I had Pfizer for the first two shots, Moderna for the booster. I am into day two of aches and fatigue. I had no reaction to Pfizer or the flu shot.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 01:13AM

I'm going to do the reverse tomorrow.

I'll let you know how much you owe me . . .

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 09:53PM

Remember, I was fully vaccinated and got COVID around the end of August, got monoclonal antibodies which I assume helped, too. I'll get my booster when the hospital tells my "husband" to get his as they said, "Not yet."

I couldn't have been more surprised than I was when I got COVID. I got my vaccination as soon as I was able to as I wanted to avoid it at all costs. I lived in fear of it. And I assume that I'll still have a chance of getting this next variant.

REMEMBER the monoclonal antibodies. My "husband" was better the next day except for taste and smell. It took me longer. I'll be testing any time I feel even slightly sick.

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Posted by: Tevai ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 10:06PM

I will learn from your hard-earned experience, cl2.

Thank you!



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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: December 10, 2021 12:01AM

My 16 year old grandson is fully vaccinated and got Covid. His symptoms were relatively minor thankfully.

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Posted by: Mother Who Knows ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 01:53AM

I'm glad you are OK, Cl2!

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: December 09, 2021 11:57PM

I know how you feel, Tevai. I got boosted back in late October. My school system does weekly testing, and I had another clean week this week. I want to be free of the virus if at all possible.

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Posted by: gentlestrength ( )
Date: December 10, 2021 12:02AM

Ha! Love it! Reminder—someone knows most here.

Ha!

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Posted by: alsd ( )
Date: December 10, 2021 08:55AM

I got the J&J shot initially back in March, while in the States, and got a Moderna booster in Denmark in October (such a combination was approved in Denmark). I had no issues with the initial shot, but the booster put me down for a couple of days. Two days of malaise and fatigue. The rest of my family, except for my youngest who has still refused to get vaccinated, got the two doses of Pfizer in June and July. My youngest got Covid a few weeks ago, and fortunately had only mild symptoms. But it spread through the house except for me. My wife got the worst of it, with four or five days of malaise and fatigue, with a loss of taste and smell for those few days as well. But I felt fine and tested in the clear the entire time.

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Posted by: taratoo ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 12:58AM

I had a Moderna booster on Saturday. I am into the second day of flu like symptoms and fatigue. I had no reaction to the Pfizer vaccine so this took me by surprise.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: December 12, 2021 08:30PM

Did it cause you to turn into a werewolf ?

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Posted by: Moriancumer the Adulter ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 01:18AM

If you get tazed with say a stun gun or cattle prod, does it fry the chip thus rendering the vaccine useless?

Does my microwave or electric blanket interfere? Part 15 of FFC regulation clearly states....

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 02:05AM

The loss of the vaccine does not matter because, as we all know, COVID is a hoax perpetrated to enrich pharmaceutical companies and rob conservatives of their bodily fluids.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 06:35AM

No, the vaccine is to give you AIDS. You know, just like all those people Bill Gates injected in Africa.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 02:15AM

Only if you are magnetic.

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Posted by: Joseph's Myth ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 01:59AM

When you go into town to receive your third dose, do they give you a new t-shirt, to replace the older one?

"I went downtown and got shot twice!"

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Posted by: gentlestrength ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 09:29AM

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/sohrab-lutchmedial-cardiac-surgeon-obituary-1.6242359

Canadian
Scientist
Cardiovascular Surgeon
Double-Vaxxed with Booster
Aggressively mocked others on social media with differences
POC


Great or not so great story about people that behave a lot like the posters in this topic.

Considering the confirmed editorial bias I have not included his social media tweets, but he sound like the posters above. This is the just the facts CBC article but he should be Googled by those who enjoy mocking others that have come to different health care choices. He has been a leader and influencer in your movement. Seems like people really like him.

I have read the labeling, no Black Box Warning, no serious complications or side effects—health care providers are legally required to report incidents occurring while under treatment to the FDA. Why are they not following this law, but following bureaucratic mandates instead? Do bureaucrats override laws in this New World.

Remember Science is never to be challenged.



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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 01:16PM

Your post seems to need a lot of clarification to back up your statements. For example:

gentlestrength Wrote:
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> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/sohra
> b-lutchmedial-cardiac-surgeon-obituary-1.6242359
>
> Canadian
> Scientist
> Cardiovascular Surgeon
> Double-Vaxxed with Booster
> Aggressively mocked others on social media with
> differences
> POC

This article did not mention a cause of death. I couldn't find one mentioned in numerous articles I looked up about his untimely death.

Therefore, I'm not understanding your point in posting it. From your comments, I assumed at first that you were using the doctor's death to "prove" that COVID vaccines don't protect you from death. If the doctor's death was due to non-COVID causes, his demise surely has no place in a discussion pro- or anti- the vaccines for COVID.

OTOH, even if he did die of COVID although fully vaxxed, there will be a medical reason, based on science, for why that occurred.

Without a lot of details and not being a medical expert, I am guessing that he did NOT die of COVID because the articles do not report that he was ill before his death. That is partly why his passing is so shocking to those who loved, lived and worked with him. He was asleep, with no prior reported illness, it seems, and he just peacefully passed away. The sad irony would be if it was a heart event as he was a renowned cardiac specialist.


> Great or not so great story about people that
> behave a lot like the posters in this topic.

I don't understand why you would call this a "great" story when an apparently healthy physician who was doing so much good in the world died suddenly in the midst of his bright career, leaving behind a grieving wife and children as well as many in the community where he worked for the benefit of strangers and was well known and loved. Nothing "great" about his loss of his life and the tremendous loss for those left behind.

On this thread I don't see any posters behaving badly, as you intimate by this remark. If you mean in general, yes, there is a strong pro-science presence on the board. That could well bother those who put their faith elsewhere, which I believe in this instance is a gigantic risk to their own health and that of others in their sphere.


> Considering the confirmed editorial bias I have
> not included his social media tweets, but he sound
> like the posters above. This is the just the
> facts CBC article but he should be Googled by
> those who enjoy mocking others that have come to
> different health care choices. He has been a
> leader and influencer in your movement. Seems
> like people really like him.

You mention the posters above. I repeat my statement above - what do they "sound like" that he also "sounds like"? I don't see any "mocking" in this thread. Well, unless you're objecting to the mention of microchips etc. I can see that may bug someone who is anti-vax but it's not hardcore mocking, at least in this thread, as you claim that it is.

I don't know anything about this doctor's social media tweets. I would be very surprised to see him "mocking" or otherwise negatively addressing people in general. That doesn't seem to go with the descriptions of his education, career, activities and the general way he lived his life, respecting, caring for and helping others and nurturing his family.

As for him being a leader in "your movement" - what movement? I see a whole bunch of disparate individuals all over the world who don't know each other, don't co-mingle, don't travel, don't hold meetings to gather together to strongarm people into places they don't want to go. In that regard, I *do* see anti-vax advocates attempting to force their opinions on others, going so far as to disrupt Remembrance Day ceremonies (that countless others see as sacred), to mob health care workers at hospital steps, to block traffic and generally engaging in intrusive and unsafe actions in public spaces, putting people at risk and causing fear and disruption, all to ram home their disregard for public health mandates and inexpert opinions about science and medical matters, in the midst of a pandemic that has claimed all too many lives already.

I don't see any posters here remotely behaving in this way in support of their "movement", as you seem to claim.


> I have read the labeling, no Black Box Warning, no
> serious complications or side effects—health
> care providers are legally required to report
> incidents occurring while under treatment to the
> FDA. Why are they not following this law, but
> following bureaucratic mandates instead? Do
> bureaucrats override laws in this New World.

I don't easily grasp this point you're trying to make. Are you meaning to say that the vaccines are administered without "warning" recipients about potential side effects? If so, this is incorrect, as far as I am aware and in my own experience. There is widespread information about the nature and anticipated goals for the vaccines as well as the potential for certain side effects.

What "bureaucratic mandates" are you referring to?

What "laws" are being "overridden"? As far as I know, side effects *are* reported. I have even been given a series of surveys through Public Health here in B.C. to keep track of reactions to the vaccinations as well as extent of public knowledge and understanding about them.

I am really interested in answers to these questions.


> Remember Science is never to be challenged.

On the contrary, scientists themselves challenge science. They are constantly researching, experimenting, gathering feedback and otherwise tracking and recording their results, findings and conclusions.

If this is not so, if science were standing still, we would still be experiencing polio, measles and smallpox outbreaks, there may be no vaccinations at all, people with mental illness may still be receiving electric shock treatments, AIDS would still be a death sentence, on doctors' orders women would still be using thalidomide for morning sickness, thereby inadvertently killing or damaging their unborn baby, surgery would be a literally torturous procedure, countless patients would be dying of preventable infection, and so on and so on and so on.

Science is definitely NOT standing still.

My bottom line is that I don't have any idea why you are using this doctor's sad, untimely, much-mourned death to somehow prove, it seems, that people shouldn't be getting vaccinated against COVID. What is the connection? How does his death prove anything?



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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: December 13, 2021 04:45PM

Thanks, Nighty.

I couldn't figure out the relevance of that link. He died in his sleep suddenly which made me think it likely had nothing to do with COVID stuff. There are several legitimate explanations either way.

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Posted by: Tyson Dunn ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 01:38PM

When we were visiting Rome in 2019, we happened upon a man lying dead on tram tracks in the road. He had been covered with a blanket, and medical personnel and police were already at the scene.

It turned out that he was a world-renowned hepatologist at local children's research hospital who died from a heart attack while riding his bicycle on a hill that reports said he regularly climbed. He had not been struck by the tram.

The death was completely unexpected; people thought he had been in good health. It was simply an unexpected death, and even well-respected members of their professions and beloved members of their community suffer from the like.

Trying to tie this in some tenuous way to COVID - particularly when no cause of death is given - is clearly disingenuous.

Tyson

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 02:40PM

     Remember Jim Fixx?

     He was one of millions of Americans who started running back in 1970s. He wrote a bestselling book, "The Complete Book of Running".

     Ironically, he died of a heart attack at the age of 52, while out jogging.



     "Everything" kills!     

     But if you can sell a book titled "Avoid Dying for Fun & Profit!", you're never going to be sued by a dissatisfied buyer.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 12:14AM

What if Omicron is the thing that ends the pandemic? It's virulent but mild, so it blows through the population and badda bing herd immunity.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 12:20AM

damn! So close!!

If you'd only added the badda boom . . .

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 05:27PM

Here's some good news: New Zealand will now allow orgies of up to 25 people. Not sure about conundrum or mask requirements.

https://www.rt.com/news/543042-new-zealand-covid19-orgy/, pack your bags!

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Posted by: Maca ( )
Date: December 14, 2021 01:38PM

I just got my 3rd Moderna this morning so I'm waiting to see how sick it will make me, not fun!

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 15, 2021 01:22AM

The headline:

            DEADLY ILLNESS:
            At least 89 killed by mystery disease
            as World Health Organisation deploys
            taskforce amid fears of horror outbreak

https://www.the-sun.com/news/4268815/89-killed-mystery-disease-who-fears-new-pandemic/


It's in an area accessible only by air, due to extensive and lengthy flooding, so it's likely to be bacterial rather than viral.

The odds are, based on my medical training and my 51 years of having nothing to do with the practice of medicine, that none of us, even the Canadians, have anything to worry about.

You're welcome.

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Posted by: Joseph's Myth ( )
Date: December 15, 2021 09:42AM

New Phizer pill, possibly almost 90% effective.

ohwhataworld

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: December 15, 2021 01:38PM

There's a huge difference between a vaccination against COVID and the new pill.

A vaccination is meant to protect a person from contracting the virus.

The pill is meant to be administered to people who have symptoms of COVID. It is shown in trials to be effective in preventing severe illness, not in preventing the illness in the first place.


https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/pfizer-says-covid-19-pill-near-90-effective-final-analysis-2021-12-14/


"Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) on Tuesday said its antiviral COVID-19 pill showed near 90% efficacy in preventing hospitalizations and deaths in high-risk patients, and recent lab data suggests the drug retains its effectiveness against the fast spreading Omicron variant of the coronavirus.

"The Pfizer pills are taken with the older antiviral ritonavir every 12 hours for five days beginning shortly after onset of symptoms.

"...if you deploy this quickly after infection, we are likely to reduce transmission dramatically..."



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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: December 16, 2021 08:24PM

        
        
                What doesn't kill you

                mutates and tries again.
    
    
    

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Posted by: Joseph's Myth ( )
Date: December 17, 2021 12:27AM

How is it this time, it seems it is almost nearly not really Christmas without the booster shot, this year?

At least the ugly sweater party is going to be easy, just dangle a few random painted styrofoam ball from it using yarn.

And, not forgetting the fluorescent golf tee clusters, sticking out at odd angles in all of em!

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