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Posted by: jay ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 12:33AM


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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 12:37AM

I do when I have to!

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 01:38AM

Weirdos and mormons ? One and the same.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 12:21PM

That's like saying atheists and satanists are synonymous.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/23/2022 12:21PM by Elder Berry.

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Posted by: Nuggett ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 01:55AM

OK, I'll bite, how do you define a "weirdo"...cause Idaho Mormons....uh....well...they have been out on the farm for a long time...

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Posted by: One ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 02:35PM

Don't run down Farms or farm people.
Not in Idaho but my five nearest farm neighbors all have college degrees. One has a PhD and former college prof, major name school. Got tired of teaching theory and went back to the family farm and took over the operation and put it into practice - doing very well.

One a Masters in plant science of some sort. Loves the farm and bought out his father, upgraded equipment and is doing well. All of it newer gear with GPS systems accurate to +- one inch and computers to run things and give instant feedback at all stages of use.

Three with Bachelors degrees. One of them also has a Tech degree from a program that helped him get into farming, from loan to on site mentoring to equipment purchasing - and 5 years of post program help(again, on site) for field work, from books to land to marketing.

Two of the BS farmers are not in Agriculture. One played College baseball on Scholarship, degree in busines. The other a degree in English, does substitute teaching when not actively farming.

None are mormons.

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Posted by: Jumping Javelina ( )
Date: May 28, 2022 12:17AM

Too many people lose sight of our attachment to the land. It is forever.

jj

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Posted by: cl2notloggedin ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 12:22PM

from the mormon weirdos, even though she was still mormon. She didn't move to the places where there are a lot of mormons. She lives in I believe Hagerman right now. She first moved to Jerome. All the mormon kids were mean to her kids and all her kids left the church. She was still in up until COVID. Her husband liked her to go. And they tried going back a few times after COVID and they quit going. I never thought I'd see the day.

But she went to Idaho to get away from the mormons.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 03:16PM

The weirdest place I ever lived was New York. I lived there when Hell’s Kitchen was still hell. 42nd Street was never boring. I’ve seen far more weirdness than Mormonism or hick Idaho can offer.

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Posted by: Nuggett ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 05:29PM

Ditto for the Castro in San Francisco.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 01:41AM

I loved Upper Castro and spent a lot of time there. Fantastic neighborhood where people really looked out for each other.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 02:36AM

+1

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 02:22AM

Ha! Ha! Another colorful place to be sure. My brother lived in the Bay Area.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 05:39PM

Idaho Mormons: Ammon Bundy, Chad and Lori Daybell.

In a game of Weirdo Poker, that's a winning hand, I don't care how many non-Mormon weirdos the state has.

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Posted by: scmd1 ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 09:14PM

+ infinity

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 02:34AM

Ammon is from Nevada. The Daybell's were from Utah. None are native Idahoans. They are recent transplants.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: May 25, 2022 12:13PM

People have no control over where they are born. They have considerable control over where they end up. I don’t think it is inevitable that they would end up in southern Idaho, but it is not much of a shock either. Arizona is almost as weird, and I’d put Utah in third place.

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Posted by: Third of Five ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 05:41PM

I have fond memories of Idaho. The only place an English girl can ride a horse without supervision, drive a motorbike without a helmet and fire a gun...all in one day. Fabulous!

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Posted by: kentish ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 07:17PM

I have Mormon neighbors across the street, a meeting house quite close, but apart from that have little sense of Mormons in my part of Idaho.

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Posted by: Third of Five ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 07:19PM

I’m probably confusing people kentish, but I thought you lived in France(?)

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 07:25PM

Kentish is in Idaho,

Soft Machine, aka Tom in Paris, is in France.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 01:43AM

And they both bag on my tea choices :P

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 01:56AM

You can take the Brit out of England but you can't. . .

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Posted by: Kentish ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 09:06AM

Ain't it grand!Winners in the lottery of life.lol

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 08:20PM

Hah!

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Posted by: Kentish ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 09:08AM

If it is Lipton's it is not a choice. It is a sacrilege.

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Posted by: Nuggett ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 07:31PM

What part of Idaho are you in?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: May 22, 2022 08:22PM

Arrondissement 41877

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Posted by: kentish ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 04:46PM

A sacred plot in Nampa that is forever England. Why Nampa? God's ways are indeed mysterious but there you are.

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Posted by: Arkay ( )
Date: May 25, 2022 08:50PM

I'm a nevermo refugee from Southern CA living in Ada County (Boise Metro) and have had relatively little contact with Mormons. We have a Mormon family down the street, they are very nice people. There are meeting houses seemingly everywhere and two temples, I guess I just don't run across them very much, but they are pretty easy to spot when I'm out and about.

I did see some missionaries stalking their prey in the Walmart parking lot, but they left me alone.

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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 07:48AM

...what you meant by "weirdos." If you mean the Calvinists that live in the Twin Falls area, they and the Mormons probably avoid each other as much as possible. On the other hand, if you mean the Arien nations folks who primarily inhabit the state's panhandle, there isn't a very large Mormon community over there to mingle with. That said, whether these three groups intermingle or not, they have a lot of strikingly similar beliefs, most notably, in the area of white supremacy.

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Posted by: jay ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 09:23AM

Ahhh

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Posted by: kenc ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 01:33PM

Arian Nations in Northern Idaho (Coeur d'Alene, Hayden) are a thing of the past since they were sued out of existence about a decade and a half ago.

Northern Idaho has relatively few Mormons (5%) in N. Idaho. In Moscow, where I live (beautiful drive of 90 miles south of C d'A), the Mormons just sold the Mormon church building on Joseph Street near my home. My old CES friends tell me that the Institutes at U of I and Washington State University in Pullman, WA (about 8 miles west of Moscow) are struggling and dwindling in numbers every year.

There are some other nutjobs, but no more than any other place. Latah county where I live is probably the most liberal county in Idaho and a great place to live, if you can stand the cooler temperatures in winter.

Sponsored by the non-official chamber of commerce!!! :)

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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: May 23, 2022 03:47PM

...the departure of Arian Nations from that area, but how about the behavior of Doug Wilson and his Christ Church.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/9/29/2055102/-Built-on-misogyny-and-racism-cult-like-church-attempts-spiritual-takeover-of-Idaho-college-town

From the article:

"In most regards, Moscow, Idaho, is the embodiment of the bucolic college town: tree-covered neighborhoods, quiet streets, quaint shops downtown, and a
pretty University of Idaho college campus. But for people who live there, the insidious presence of Pastor Doug Wilson’s cult-like Christ Church—not at
all obvious on the surface, but cumulatively overwhelming at times—can make life on the Palouse surreal, even nightmarish.

Moreover, as
a deep profile by Sarah Stankorb at Vice
reveals, Wilson’s domineering evangelical church—which buys up property and businesses throughout the Latah County community and bullies both members and
non-members who question either his edicts or his far-right theology—is built on a fundamentally misogynist worldview that permits male members to rape
their wives, and threatens any women who object.

Stankorb’s report details the stories of the women who have survived Christ Church’s “culture that normalizes sexual abuse and harassing survivors.” One
described being raped repeatedly by her husband, then becoming an outcast when she divorced him. Others describe being sexually abused as teenagers by
men who taught in the church’s schools.

This ethos within the church is a direct outgrowth of the theology that Wilson teaches. He asserts that husbands have complete spiritual responsibility
for the household, which includes preventing the wife from failing to submit to his will in “spending habits, television viewing habits, weight, rejection
of his leadership, laziness in cleaning the house, lack of responsiveness to sexual advances.”

Wilson contends that modern society has stripped men of their intended roles, including their sexual mores. He has written that “the sexual act cannot
be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party”; instead, “a man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants,” while a “woman receives, surrenders, accepts,”
he argues. He concludes that “true authority and true submission are therefore an erotic necessity.”

Despite its location in a remote rural college town, Christ Church is not merely a fringe cult. Wilson is a major figure in the evangelical home-schooling
and “classical Christian school” movements, having helped found the Association of Classical and Christian Schools, which accredits institutions similar
to Wilson’s. He also operates a publishing house, Logos Books, that provides curriculum materials for both homeschoolers and “classical schools.”

Its current expansion plans in Moscow include a new complex for Logos School, built on 30 acres of land on the town’s northwestern perimeter. A fundraising
video reminds viewers “that much of what we are doing in education […] is exported to hundreds of classical Christian schools across the country and beyond.”

Much of what Wilson teaches has long been controversial. In 2004,
the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Mark Potok
exposed both his church’s cult-like creeping takeover of Moscow, as well as the far-right Dominionist beliefs embedded in his school literature, including
a defense of the Confederacy and slavery.

Wilson co-wrote a book, Southern Slavery: As It Was, featured in the Logos Books curriculum, which claimed in part: "Slavery as it existed in the South
[...] was a relationship based upon mutual affection and confidence.”

It argued: "There has never been a multiracial society which has existed with such mutual intimacy and harmony in the history of the world. [...] "Slave
life was to them [slaves] a life of plenty, of simple pleasures, of food, clothes, and good medical care."

At a 2003 public forum in Moscow, Wilson
attempted to defend the book,
claiming it had been misinterpreted. "My defense of the South does not make me a racist," he said. "I am not interested in defending slavery. I don't believe
we should practice slavery.

“What I said is that a Christian man in the South could be a slave owner. He needed to follow the rules in the New Testament. Christian slave owners were
compelled to teach their slaves to read [and] teach them Christian values. When there is a chance for freedom, the Bible tells the slaves to take it. Paul
lays out the peaceful end to slavery. That is not how Southern slavery ended in the United States.""

For the record, I have family now living in the area in Tensed, Idaho, some 20 or so miles northeast of Moscow (it's close to an Indian reservation if I remember correctly). My late father's younger brother, who is still alive, was raised Nazarrean then switched (if I remember correctly) to Southern Baptist after he married a Roman Catholic. He moved in with his son in Tensed a few years back, and I very much fear the worst: that the family has fallen under the Wilson spell. They don't talk to us anymore, but the little we've heard suggests that this is exactly what has happened.

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Posted by: kenc ( )
Date: May 25, 2022 02:38PM

Yes Doug Wilson has a ton of control over those who follow him. However the number who do is a tiny fraction of the over all population.

I worked for a company called EMSI (Economic Modeling Specialists Inc.), that was founded by Doug Wilson founders. They sell labor market software to mostly Community Colleges and Workforce Development boards. It made a core of Christ Church followers very wealthy. They are now developing several tracts of land, in hopes of attracting more and more people of their ilk to Moscow.

They still exist in lesser numbers to LDS here on the Palouse Region. It is true, the city council underestimated the drive and success of Christ Church, but there is constant opposition to their strident attempts to control the politics here. It's working.

Day to day, there isn't any direct effects to living here, and thanks to the new city council folks, and county commissioners, dedicated to stopping Christ Church in its tracks, it will remain that way.

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Posted by: I ( )
Date: May 25, 2022 11:11AM

jay Wrote:
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> n/t


The "wierdos" in Idaho ARE Mormon!
They go along to get along, in a song.

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Posted by: Dr. No ( )
Date: June 12, 2022 09:49AM

jay Wrote:
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> Any mormons in this group of Idaho weirdos?
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> https://www.yahoo.com/news/members-white-nationali
> st-group-charged-005407685.html
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Surprising - according to this semi-recent population analysis Idaho heads the pack
https://247wallst.com/special-report/2018/02/23/states-with-the-most-hate-groups/

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