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Posted by: Folger ( )
Date: July 19, 2022 04:07AM

The mormons participate in freemason rituals in the temples. Should mormons be considered freemasons?

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: July 19, 2022 11:02AM

No.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 19, 2022 11:49AM

Folger Wrote:
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> Should mormons be considered
> freemasons?

If they let you believe in any God or gods, don't make you quit your current religion, and only allow men then yes.

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Posted by: shortbobgirl ( )
Date: July 19, 2022 11:50AM

Can’t be, there are female Mormons, no female Freemasons (at least in the US).

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: July 19, 2022 11:59AM

They are separate organizations, although Mormon temple rituals drew heavily on Freemasonry. Also the Mason's dues are a whole lot smaller than what you have to pay to get temple privileges in Mormonism.

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Posted by: sd ( )
Date: July 19, 2022 06:01PM

would be unfree masons.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: July 19, 2022 09:56PM

Mormonism is complicated, and it has never quite figured which way it should go. It started out as a garden-variety tent-revival millenarian sect. The whole Book of Mormon is a treatise on Protestantism. But then JS discovered Freemasonry, and that indeed came to define the church more and more. It goes far beyond the temple ceremony. The Priesthood is a fraternal order. Heaven has degrees. The Bible was re-interpreted as a story about the patriarchs as craft masters. And so on. So yes, modern Mormonism can be seen as a variant of Freemasonry. The early leaders were in full agreement with the idea, as they saw Mormonism as restoring the "true order" of Freemasonry.

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 20, 2022 11:36AM

That is literally the wrong idea of a fraternal order that is antiatheist and all about allegorical alliances of a brotherhood steeped in myth.

Mormonism stole somethings but isn't an offshoot or even in masonic genealogy.

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Posted by: jay ( )
Date: July 20, 2022 04:16AM

I don’t know if they can be. But from this day forward, when referring to a Mormon, I will say “he’s a Freemason” or “I believe that family practices Freemasonry.”

And I’ll say to Mormons, “you’re a Freemason, right?” “No? What’s the difference?” And “I still don’t get it. You should talk to a Freemason because it sounds exactly the same.”

Thanks for this post and all of the fun I’ll have with a straight face.

“You’re Mormon? What degree?”

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: July 20, 2022 01:21PM

Mormons were not allowed membership in certain masonic lodges. I know this was the case with certain lodges in Idaho but Idaho's original constitution banned Mormons from voting so Idaho was not pro-Mormon in the old days.

Mormonism is no more Mason than my college fraternity was where I was initiated, given a new name and swore four loyalty oaths with four separate handshakes.

I would say the temple is the Mormon church's fraternal order. It created a insider's club inside the church. Great if you want to have separate loyalties and keep secrets.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: July 20, 2022 05:58PM

While the signs and tokens are similar, the ceremonies and structures are completely different.

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Posted by: matt ( )
Date: July 20, 2022 07:17PM

Or Christians, or Methodists, or theists, or Earth Magic followers, or Sikhs (that's were the sacred undergarments was "borrowed" from) or any other religion Joe Smith stole something from?

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: July 21, 2022 02:06AM

UnFreeMasons.

Yup.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: July 21, 2022 11:57PM

Pfffft!

Mormons can't even be considered Mormons.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: July 22, 2022 12:05AM

If I complete a Miniature Golf course, can I be considered a pro golfer?

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Posted by: Elder Berry ( )
Date: July 23, 2022 04:53PM

Depends on how many strokes you need to go pro.

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