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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: September 22, 2022 03:25PM

Can't get an official language designated, why do you think Christian Nationalism is going to fly?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 22, 2022 03:33PM

Recent supreme court holdings on abortion, prayer in schools, and the denial of commercial services based on sexual orientation indicate that Christian Nationalism is already flying.

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: September 22, 2022 08:40PM

tumwater Wrote:
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> Can't get an official language designated, why do
> you think Christian Nationalism is going to fly?


I don’t, but about 30% of my Country thinks that’ll fix everything wrong with America and they’re wrestling for control of the GOP, which is hilarious, because the other half of the party (CULT) thinks Trump is the 2nd Coming of Jesus and don’t need Jesus competing with Trump.

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Posted by: oxymormon ( )
Date: September 22, 2022 07:29PM

God save us from your followers

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: September 23, 2022 01:21AM

A declaration could easily be considered same / equal to to resolution which is a For Show Only recognition of someone or something, by & of itself not significant, but we all know the Right Wing-Nuts will pick up & run with it, no boundaries, no guardrails as we learned starting on 1/20/17

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: September 23, 2022 11:00AM

Christian Nationalism on the rise.
https://youtu.be/ymyAXjc1je4

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Posted by: Happy_Heretic ( )
Date: September 23, 2022 11:17AM

"IN GOD WE TRUST". Such a simple and elegant motto. It just rolls off the tongue. Could not be more poetic if it were actually true.



HH =)

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: September 23, 2022 12:04PM

Happy_Heretic Wrote:
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> "IN GOD WE TRUST". Such a simple and elegant
> motto. It just rolls off the tongue. Could not
> be more poetic if it were actually true.
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>
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> HH =)

Unfortunately it replaced,”E Pluribus Unim” out of many, one, as our National Motto, during the Red Scare in the 50’s. I thought the original motto was better, since it unified us, instead of dividing us between God believers and non-believers. But I didn’t get a vote. And nobody asked me for my opinion. Of course I wasn’t even born in 1956.

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Posted by: tilt ( )
Date: September 23, 2022 07:24PM

As evangelicals don't consider mormons as christian it may make things interesting for those that were going to save the constitution on their white horses.

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Posted by: adoylelb ( )
Date: September 24, 2022 01:02PM

So true, Mormons would be in for a shock if evangelicals got their way, as they would find out that they would be considered non-Christians and therefore just as bad as those from other religions, as well as atheists.

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: September 24, 2022 02:49PM

adoylelb Wrote:
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> So true, Mormons would be in for a shock if
> evangelicals got their way, as they would find out
> that they would be considered non-Christians and
> therefore just as bad as those from other
> religions, as well as atheists.

“Christian Nation”= Gilead

It’s going to look a lot like Iran, only with red hijabs instead of black and men dressed in head to toe Red with Punisher Logos in American Flag motif, driving XL pickup Trucks, with a lot of flags, to beat up cops with.
https://youtu.be/RgAVA-tHRp4



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/24/2022 03:11PM by schrodingerscat.

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Posted by: donbagley ( )
Date: September 27, 2022 10:35PM

The Mormons are already mainstreaming. A young Mormon recently wrote online that there is no heavenly mother and never was. It was a lie, he said, concocted by anti-Mormons.

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: September 27, 2022 11:43PM

Either that mormon is on the road to apostasy, or there have been a lot of mormon leaders over the past 192 years who were actually anti-mormons.


Eliza Snow(-Smith-Young) ("O My Father")
Gordon B. Hinckley (Proclamation on the Family)
Joseph F. Smith
Boyd K. Packer
George Q. Cannon
B.H. Roberts
James E. Talmadge
Orson Whitney
Rudger Clawson
Erastus Snow
Hugh B. Brown
Melvin J. Ballard
Bruce R. McConkie
Jeffrey R. Holland
M.Russell Ballard
Thomas S.Monson
Harold B. Lee
Dallin H. Oaks
Brigham Young and not least:
Joseph Smith

References:

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4308&context=byusq

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/mother-in-heaven?lang=eng

https://www.churchhistorianspress.org/the-first-fifty-years-of-relief-society/part-1/1-14?lang=eng {see footnote 4}
"Zina D. H. Young recalled asking Joseph Smith whether she would see her mother again following her mother’s death in July 1839. Smith replied affirmatively and added, “More than that, you will meet and become acquainted with your eternal Mother, the wife of your Father in Heaven.” Further, David McKay (father of David O. McKay) reported a conversation he had with Snow while driving her from Huntsville to Eden, Utah. He asked whether Snow learned of a Mother in Heaven by revelation from God. She responded, “No,” and explained that her inspiration had come from Joseph Smith’s teachings."

https://archive.org/stream/historyofyoungla00gaterich/historyofyoungla00gaterich_djvu.txt
(at the end of section titled 16 HISTORY OF Y. L. M. I. A.)

What are they teaching young mormons today?

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Posted by: decultified ( )
Date: September 28, 2022 11:15AM

That's impossible according to mormon doctrine. Without a heavenly mother, there's literally no point to the celestial kingdom, and no reason for temples or temple marriage at all.

What does this young mormon think women do in the CK for eternity? Binge-watch the latest episodes of "As the Universe Turns"?

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Posted by: alsd ( )
Date: September 25, 2022 09:59PM

Yet these are the same folks who also claim they don't like the Constitution to be changed. How do they reconcile these two beliefs?

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 25, 2022 10:07PM

By misunderstanding the constitution.

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Posted by: alsd ( )
Date: September 26, 2022 06:29AM

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> By misunderstanding the constitution.


I find it funny how many people think certain things are in the Constitution, that are not. I always get a laugh when I hear that we have a right to "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". That phrase does not exist in the Constitution. It does in the Declaration of Independence, but it is not a right guaranteed by the Constitution. The Declaration of Independence is just that, and that alone, a declaration of independence from Great Britain. It is not a governing document.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: September 26, 2022 11:15PM

Well the Christians better get to fuckin. They better keep all the women they can pregnant and each woman needs to pop out as many children as possible. Got to build the numbers to have political control.

Gee. This sounds like Brigham Young's Utah.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: September 26, 2022 11:22PM

The fastest reproducing cohort in the United States is Christian: Latinos.

Perhaps "Christian" isn't the operative word in the phrase "Christian Nationalists."



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 09/26/2022 11:24PM by Lot's Wife.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: October 02, 2022 09:51PM

Lot's Wife Wrote:
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> The fastest reproducing cohort in the United
> States is Christian: Latinos.
>

Thanks for noticing us ...

And you're welcome!

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 02, 2022 10:34PM

How can we *not* notice you?

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Posted by: hum ( )
Date: September 28, 2022 08:00PM


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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: September 28, 2022 08:32PM

hum Wrote:
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University of Maryland conducted the study that showed 61% of GOP supports declaring America a Christian Nation.

https://criticalissues.umd.edu/sites/criticalissues.umd.edu/files/American%20Attitudes%20on%20Race%2CEthnicity%2CReligion.pdf

Politico put it at 80%.

Got better stats from better sources?

I know polls have been screwed up ever since 2016, because People tend to lie to random pollsters.
Usually people are somewhat embarrassed to admit they support something that’s a complete lie, completely unconstitutional and renders the entire concept of Jefferson’s secular experiment in democracy meaningless, but not today.
A large percentage of Republicans are still supportive of a former President, who is being investigated for every crime under the sun. One of them is bound to be successful at revealing the truth, right?

What does ‘truth’ even mean to those in a CULT?

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/09/26/pollsters-fear-elections-2024-00058506

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Posted by: squirrely ( )
Date: September 28, 2022 08:51PM

Why stop at Christian nation, lets get really conservative and go back to Zeus Nation.

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Posted by: schrodingerscat ( )
Date: September 28, 2022 08:58PM

squirrely Wrote:
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> Why stop at Christian nation, lets get really
> conservative and go back to Zeus Nation.

Why not call it what it really is, White Nationalism?

the opposite of Socialism.
Its socialism for the rich (white) people which the poor (non-whites) get to pay for by working like slaves for a meager living.

Kinda like a monarchy, only in the 21st C.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/28/2022 09:01PM by schrodingerscat.

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Posted by: Cold-Dodger ( )
Date: September 29, 2022 12:40PM

"The responses also exposed deep generational divides: A majority of Americans born before 1964 who responded to the poll said they support declaring the U.S. a Christian nation, while just a quarter of millenials and 34 percent of Gen Z respondents said the same."

I find it very interesting that Gen Z is a whole 9 points higher than my generation. Why is that? How did that happen?

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Posted by: Happy_Heretic ( )
Date: September 30, 2022 01:18PM

Gen Z kids are between 10 and 25 years old. Most are still young and operating under their parents morae's. I am personally ashamed of my Gen (X'ers). We have had the longest exposure to the Boomers and should be well aware of how flawed they are as a group.

HH =)

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: September 30, 2022 01:35PM

Boomers aren't flawed; we're spoiled.

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Posted by: Happy_Heretic ( )
Date: October 01, 2022 07:23PM

You put an extra "p" in there.

HH =)

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: October 01, 2022 08:22PM

Oh boy, now you're going to have to send him flowers. . .

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: October 02, 2022 10:43PM

In a related story, Steve Bannon speaking for / appealing to Rs has voiced his / the republican plan to flood the internet & other outlets with rumors & falsehoods to skew the counting results since they KNOW they can't / won't win a free, fair, & accurate election....

Democracy / our representative form of governing - government is Indeed hanging by a thread.

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