A memorial service was held today at the unitarian church. Looked like at least a couple of hundred people showed up.
I was across the street at the Colorado College ice hockey arena. There were large numbers of news crews there doing video. I'm pretty sure I'm in the background of some of those videos.

Didn’t see this posted anywhere. So many memorial services. So sad.

Guns.

We can't keep guns out of the hands of wackos.

Glad you went.

At least they weren't handing out flyers with the Proclamation of the Family. ;-\

I suspect many average Mormons have gay family members and have probably had enough of their church playing both sides about LGBTQ rights.

The right thing to do would be for the old GAs to admit they were wrong and apologize for all the suffering they have fomented toward gay people. I know, that's laughable.

I read this morning that his public defender stated that the suspect is non-binary and uses they/them pronouns. Also, he will be addressed as Mx. Aldrich.

Still no indication as to his religion, though.

Who knows. If so, maybe he got rejected, hurt, or feels some kind of self loathing related to his own sexuality. There is a lot for the authorities to consider, I'm sure.

I just heard too that he had a "chaotic" childhood, including his mother having multiple charges including DUI & filing a false complaint. His father was reported to be an MMA fighter and a porn actor who apparently was not in the picture with the family.

The suspect was the subject of "vicious bullying" as a teen.

He changed his name a few years ago. (Reason unknown?)

Last year, as has been mentioned here already, his mother called police to report his threats of having a bomb and possibly other weapons (including ammunition).

And yes, now they are saying he is non-binary.

That could change the speculations about motive.

That doesn't, of course, excuse his violent acts that took people's lives and robbed family and friends of their presence.


*I came back to do a tiny edit: The father was in MMA, not MMM as I first wrote. (What is MMM? besides the Mormon MMM?)



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His father said he was when being interviewed. He changed his name from Brink to Aldrich
Brink said he's a Mormon and his first reaction was to question why his son was at a gay bar.

“You know Mormons don't do gay. We don't do gay. There's no gays in the Mormon church. We don't do gay,” Brink said.

https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/im-sorry-i-let-my-son-down-father-of-accused-colorado-club-shooter-speaks-out/509-6c4ad66e-35ef-41a5-9255-bca31cea3a73

confirmed by LDS inc:
Brink, who has appeared in such films as My MILF Boss 8, I Wanna Get Titty Fucked, and Latina Slut Academy, told CBS 8, “You know Mormons don’t do gay. We don’t do gay. There’s no gays in the Mormon church. We don’t do gay.” (The Mormon Church has confirmed that Aldrich was a member but had not been active in some time.) https://www.yahoo.com/news/pornstar-dad-lgbt-club-massacre-190625556.html



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dydimus Wrote:
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> Brink ... told CBS 8, “You know Mormons don’t
> do gay. We don’t do gay. There’s no gays in
> the Mormon church. We don’t do gay.”

Good title for their next conference:

We're Mormons. We don't do gay.

Nor 'Mormon' it would seem. At least today.

Too bad for them - you can tiddly up a beater car with a new coat of paint but underneath at a certain point it's still a heapa junk.

I can only imagine the emotional trauma that kid went through, with an MMA porn star dad and an addicted criminal mother and dabs of Mormonism sprinkled on top.

You add firearms to the mix and the odds of tragedy go way, way up.

That kid didn't have a lot going for him with a dad like that. It seems his parents (and their religion) set him on a course of self loathing that caused him to shoot the people who would have potentially embraced him.

Either that, or maybe they are lying about the nonbinary stuff as a defense tactic.

The two videos of the dad I saw were scary. Sometimes I think we should require a license to breed! (J/K)

The dad proudly tells the world he is Mormon (he apparently didn't get the name memo). This is a PR nightmare for the church, IMO.

dagny Wrote:
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> It seems his parents (and their
> religion) set him on a course of self loathing
> that caused him to shoot the people who would have
> potentially embraced him.

This adds even more to the absolute tragedy of what he did (that the people in the club would more likely than not have welcomed him).

I heard that he wants to be referred to as they/them but the judge today didn't do so.

(Does anybody know why in the courtroom footage the accused looks like he's leaning quite far over to one side? Is that a result of injuries he incurred during the course of the attack?)



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I suspect it is probably because he got the living crud kicked out of his head. His neck maybe got injured from it.

Ouch.

But they did what they had to do.

It looks pretty bad. Obviously he's OK enough to be in court though.

With our wacky law system, he will probably be able to sue the guy who took him down and win because HE was injured. Groan.

Right...

"Your honor, at the time he was attacked, my client was NOT a convicted murderer!!"

Did that work when you tried it?

Some posters would probably say it's a pity there was no one there with a gun. . .

. . . except of course for the guy who was there with the gun.

Totally debunked. It was a ploy by his lawyer to avoid hate crime charge.

Yes, he was.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/11/21/colorado-springs-qbar-shooter/

However, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints said that he didn't attend LDS church (chapel) services, to its knowledge.

When I first left Mormonism I ran into inactive Mormons on occasion and tried to talk to them. Surprisingly, they were the strongest defenders of the corporation. I noticed a fair amount of self loathing among those where did not attend yet still believed. They said they were not living up to the standards. I believe the Mormon church does tremendous harm to these folks. The self imposed guilt believing inactive Mormons experience could push one over the edge as happened with this young man in my opinion. The parents are another issue. What a family. Sigh.

Any delineation between ‘mental illness’ & Having a Bad Day seems inconsequential when there’s a weapon available.

Why pray for God to help you find your car keys when you can just go out and start shooting people if you're frustrated!

Well, it kinda would make sense if one were shooting at other drivers...  Surely one of those being shot at would leave his or her keys in the car!

If, as the dad reveals, "mormons don't do gay...", what is it that mormons do do? (and no, this isn't a doo-doo joke...)

I am aware that mormons attend church, pay tithings, keep whatever version of the WoW they approve of, believe in polygamy, even if their wives say they can't practice it...yet, etc., etc.

It's no big secret that mormons do 'the gay.' Just ask the off-brand Joseph Fielding Smith, the ex-church patriarch.  And if they can get a gay man to marry a straight woman, they seem to believe they've done a good thing!  How weird is that?

How come women can touch each other's private parts without any real censure, but when men touch another man's private parts, there's hell to pay?  

Why do 'Real Men' supposedly fear 'the gay'?  Doesn't it just mean more women for the rest of us?  And isn't that the ultimate goal of mormon CK-bound men: more women?

How can ex-mormons get 'The dad' appointed a spokesman for the utilitarian sector of the mormon church?  He needs to be available for comments on ALL the issues that concern the mormon church and how it and its ghawd(s) interact with the other 99.0865% of sentient humanity.  

I, for one, welcome the new mormon overlord!

I'm sure the church just wants this to go away ASAP.

My guess is they will say some pap about love for everyone and then it will be back to business as usual.

The members of course will use this as an example of what happens to people who aren't active.

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> The members of course will use this as an example
> of what happens to people who aren't active.

I hadn't thought about that. Seems likely. Misses the boat altogether.

> The members of course will
> use this as an example of
> what happens to people who
> aren't active.


Oh, he seems to have been active . . .

But I get it: you're saying that there is a church-sponsored and church-approved way to be active, and the dad's way wasn't it.

...And it goes without saying (as I say it) that bringing a loaded musket into a gay nightclub, and discharging it, is something the mormon church urges you to consider in your heart but not actually do "out loud"...  

While the gays may deserve no better, ghawd doesn't actually want you to act out your fantasies unless he has actually commanded you to do so; just ask Laban, who simply had a few too many that night!

Why did something so simple as an omni-OMNI ghawd become so complex?!?

There’s an article on yahoo titled Porn-star dad of LGBT club massacre suspect spews homophobia in First interview. Written by Justin Rohrlich.

I don’t know how to show links from iPad.

If I follow the article right, the father of the shooter was a porn star. Some of his works are listed (eye roll) . Then he says he thought because his son was there that he is gay. He follows that with mormon don’t have gays and a litany of other bizarre statements. So is it saying it is ok to be a mormon porn star but not a gay person who shoots up bars?

The article confused me but most stuff Mormons say confuses me.

Weird. There's no accounting for how people cherry pick sometimes.

It's a Daily Beast article.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/aaron-brink-pornstar-dad-of-colorado-club-q-shooting-suspect-anderson-lee-aldrich-spews-homophobia

"You know Mormons don't do gay. We don't do gay. There's no gays in the Mormon church. We don't do gay."

He says "WE don't do gay" and quotes Bednar so he still self-identifies (at least to a degree) as a mormon, even though he never got Nelson's memo.

Dad is a conservative Republican mormon meth-head porno actor. Only the best, you know.

Hahaha. The GA's will probably have to watch the dad's porno films to decide if he should be ex'ed.