Ok, here is why a billion plus dollars would be worthless in a apocalyptical situation or some other weird end times scenario, money would probably be worthless in such events, so it's kind of crazy to believe otherwise, but people believe in what they want to believe. This is one of the prophecies of the ladder days, the church will bail out the US of A

All that money simply exists on computers. In fact money is just an illusion the mass majority accepts. So if something makes it to where the computer network does not function or people lose their acceptance of the illusion you are now in a different paradigm.

Nobody understands a paradigm shift better than people who lived in the former Soviet Union. They went from one system that was very controlling to nothing overnight. The government collapsed and there was no plan B.

I’ve talked to several people who lived through this. One person was a teenager at the time. He remembers the fun of riding around in a car, swigging vodka out of the bottle and shooting a Kalashnikov out the car window. He said we were young punks taking advantage of no law and order. At the same time thugs were filling the void and what the government provided was no longer there.

Another person said they grew their own food in gardens outside the city. They bartered with each other and even set up a barter board where people could trade goods and skills with each other.

I think in the case with the LDS is the social construct would be the biggest asset in an apocalypse type situation. It’s what allowed parts of the church to survive when it got ran out of places. The $100 billion would no longer matter but the social construct with people bringing different skills to the table would be the most valuable.

Literacy is an agreed upon illusion. It is a completely artificial human construct that could in theory be wiped out in a generation. That doesn’t mean that it is not enormously useful, and makes a real difference in the world. And written language will not disappear unless humans disappear.

Same is true for money.

Same is true of religion and politics. Religion is manufactured meaning. Politics is manufactured consent. At least Mormons are consistent.

Do humans need meaning? Or money? I'm sure going without has been tried.

The leaders know perfectly well that there ain't gonna be a Last Days. It's called lying. Thank you.

slskipper Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The leaders know perfectly well that there ain't
> gonna be a Last Days. It's called lying. Thank
> you.


1.0 x 10^9

+ 6.02 x 10^23

Hah!

You've confirmed my suspicion that you a diminutive subterranean mammal!

And I suppose they don't talk to Jesus in the temple.

Jesus TOLD them to set up those shell companies.

Corporate Jesus is white and shallow. The one described in the gosspels has a Tan, is not a bodybuilder and was a stonemason

slskipper Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> The leaders know perfectly well that there ain't
> gonna be a Last Days. It's called lying. Thank
> you.

I beg to differ. Certainly the leaders have been told by other leaders that 1) the last days haven't happened yet; and 2) God doesn't come over the temple loudspeakers--his position comes up in your mind. Put another way, facts, even among the leaders, are subordinate to beliefs.

The thing to keep in mind when discussing this topic is that we humans by and large are not logical creatures; rather, like the rest of Earth's population, we are emotional beings, and, for many of us, logic and so-called common sense flow from our emotions. We also have a nasty habit of wanting to control the behavior of our fellow human beings for both good and not-so-good reasons. All of this (hopefully) helps to explain the growth of right-wing evangelical churches in the U.S., especially among white people.

The billions would be worthless.

However....the billions represent ownership in companies, real estate etc.

Would ownership of these companies be of use in an economic crisis?

Yes, money and what it buys is power, but powerful people have fallen, look what happened to the kings and Queens and leaders of some countries. Too many possibilities in the future to predict, unless of course you are Warren Buffet

In an orderly society, ownership is a matter of paper. You have stocks, bonds, titles, deeds, liens, water rights, etc.

When an orderly society falls apart, every category of "paper" wealth is up for grabs. The same is true of commodities like metals, tracts of land, oil, etc. Wealth is redistributed according to power.

The companies and other assets you mention would still have value but only to those with the resources to seize and maintain them. And that will be neither the person with legal title to the assets nor to Archie in his Bunker with his assault rifles. The winners in this scenario are the organized military forces, the armed and organized gangs, etc.

I'm getting confused, should I sell my Vanguard funds?

You are investing in the United States which statistically is the best we can do

The LDS 'church' doesn't save money- (people do)
It wastes it!