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Posted by: conehead ( )
Date: April 24, 2023 03:23AM

You can also find it as the daily bing.com image.
https://peapix.com/bing/42713
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Posted by: madeguy ( )
Date: April 24, 2023 03:28PM

The so-called 'hill' Cumorah is a Drumlin. It is naturally occurring, with many others, in New York State. If you want to see how many there are, go to Goggle maps, zero in on upper New York, and select the terrain view. These are probably remnants of the ice age.

Brigham Young claimed there were thousands more plates piled on tables, and they would also be translated if the chosen ones were faithful enough. Oh really?

If there was anything under the hill Cumorah it would have been discovered by now.

There never were any physical plates. The 'witnesses' saw them with their eyes closed.

Mormon folklore is deeply entrenched, especially if you've been taught it since you were a child.

It takes a bit of investigating before you wake up.

But, you can wake up.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: April 24, 2023 03:39PM

Ummm, that's not a cave.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 24, 2023 10:48PM

No, but it is very close to what BY described as a cave or underground cavern.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 10:26AM

Well, Aliens must have shown them how to lay all the stones in such a tight manner that a knife blade can't pass between them.

How would the ancients have survived without aliens showing them how to build things out of stone??

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 05:01PM

FAIR informs us that: "The geologic unlikelihood of a cave existing within the hill such as the one described suggests that the experience related by the various witnesses was

[1] most likely a vision, or

[2] a divine transportation to another locale. . ."

Although it is intriguing to think Joseph Smith led a field trip to the hole under the North Pole where the Ten Tribes reside, I wonder if there is not a third possible explanation that Occam might have preferred.

What say you, Saint Jesus of Tijuana North?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 05:10PM

Or as JoJu used to say to the ladies, "You do you and I'll do you, too!"

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: April 24, 2023 03:44PM

If there were a Hill Cumorah cave

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Posted by: Sleepy in Seattle ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 10:52AM

[|] Wrote:
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> If there were a Hill Cumorah cave

There are a few clefts which have opened up in the hill. One had to be covered up by a metal sheet a few years ago. Judging from the picture it was large enough to hide a treasure chest in or for a child to fall into. Maybe this is where Joseph Smith got his inspiration from.

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Posted by: caffiend ( )
Date: April 24, 2023 10:30PM

Several years ago some men found a collapsed cave on "Miner's Hill," in Manchester, NY, which was part of Palmyra in JS's time. Some men got a bit of capital together and began an excavation, but at a certain point, having found nothing to connect it to LDS, and having exhausted their funds, gave up. I do wonder if there were more such caves worth investigating. Not that Moroni's treasure would be found, but I read somewhere that JS and his cronies did meet in caves, or in a cave.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 09:19AM

How would you find the cave, or the cache of records abridged by Mormon, if it is protected by supernatural forces? The effect is similar to treasure moving in the ground as you are digging for it. Which is physically impossible as with many things Mormon. That does not stop the believers.

Humans believe what they believe for completely irrational reasons. They invest in a belief system and then feel compelled to defend it. Mormonism makes you invest heavily. It is the social equivalent of your cave explorers wasting their time and money until they gave up because there was nothing there. Why would there be?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/25/2023 09:20AM by bradley.

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Posted by: Roy G Biv ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 10:28AM

>> I read somewhere that JS and his cronies did meet in caves, or in a cave. <<

So did Tom Sawyer.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 12:55PM

What a hobbit house might look like.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 01:58PM

Perhaps that where the Nephites kept their beer cold?

Hey, I'm just going off what the article says.........

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Posted by: matt ( )
Date: April 25, 2023 07:55PM

Wine cellar! I saw that on Bing.

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