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Posted by: Alicianelson ( )
Date: May 30, 2023 11:27PM

I think Joseph Smith had many secret children.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: May 31, 2023 12:22AM

I think with DNA that would have been found & disclosed by now;

Can U imagine a TBM who wouldn't be proud/ but perhaps doesn't want it publicized about other women Joey was happy with...

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: May 31, 2023 12:29AM

What if BYU's leading edge work on DNA was to ferret out Joseph Smith's progeny and silence them?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: May 31, 2023 11:11AM

I didn’t realize they were being too noisy.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: May 31, 2023 02:10PM

See how effective the church is?

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: May 31, 2023 11:19AM

Wouldn’t there be an equal number of women who look like JS clones?

Besides, all you need to look like a clone of JS is to have ancestry from NW Europe. All you white guys look alike. ;)

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: May 31, 2023 12:36PM

For the most part, not in Mexico, Central & South America, Africa, or the Pacific Islands...

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Posted by: Marcus ( )
Date: June 03, 2023 07:24AM

Alicianelson Wrote:
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> I think Joseph Smith had many secret children.

If Joseph Smith was fat and bald.

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Posted by: matt ( )
Date: June 03, 2023 08:15AM

Unless he was infertile? But Emma had babies?

And what if Joseph was infertile?

Or became infertile after an illness?

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Posted by: Judex Maxissimus ( )
Date: June 04, 2023 04:03AM

matt Wrote:
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> Unless he was infertile? But Emma had babies?
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> And what if Joseph was infertile?
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> Or became infertile after an illness?

Joseph certainly has some descendants. There is a family resemblance with him. But he seems to have had few of them despite his sexploits.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: June 04, 2023 05:09AM

Joseph always did know when to pull out.

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Posted by: I ( )
Date: June 05, 2023 02:08AM

Joseph Smith didn't even look like himself...

So there is no way anyone else could, to be sure.

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Posted by: Chicken N. Backpacks ( )
Date: June 05, 2023 01:01PM

Joseph looks more like a dreamboat every time a new painting of him is created, so it's almost like he looks like Mormon men!

Except those dumpy Pillsbury Doughboy missionaries I see around town, can't explain them.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: June 06, 2023 06:47AM

Or he likes Mormon men.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: June 10, 2023 07:50AM


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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: June 10, 2023 10:21AM


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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: June 10, 2023 10:50AM

It's possible that the portrait on the left could be of a young JSj, perhaps in his 20s, and the one on the right an older JSj, perhaps close to the time he died at age 38. If it is, then the right hand daguerreotype shows his jowls filled out with age, and perhaps health issues.

But look at the earlobes. The portrait on the left shows what look like detached earlobes. In the daguerreotype on the right, the earlobes look attached, which IIRC, is a recessive trait found in only one quarter of the population. What do you think?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/2023 10:51AM by summer.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: June 11, 2023 08:37AM

It would have to be a thirty something Joseph Smith as photography didn't reach America until 1839:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daguerreotype

Back in those days, thinness was related to poverty, not wealth as it is today, so perhaps the painting is embellished a bit.


The Mormon guy I dated looked kinda sorta like this and that early photo -- except he was around 6'6" and had grey eyes.

https://www.nrm.org/wp2016/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Freedom_of_Speech_5_6_meta.jpg

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: June 12, 2023 05:30AM

Looks a bit like Steve Young. You've been holding out on us, anybody.

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Posted by: Boyd KKK ( )
Date: June 12, 2023 03:56AM

Not really. Joseph was supposed to be athletic and spent time outdoors.

Too many MoronicPriesthood,inc types are pasty, flabby & look as if they aren't tough enough to change a bicycle tire.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: June 12, 2023 04:56PM

Wasn't he lame or walked with a limp because of the surgery he had as an eight year old?


Here's a first hand account from a non-Mormon:

On landing at Nauvoo, I proceeded with the Doctor along the street which
I mentioned before as bordering on the strand. As I advanced with my
book in my hand, numerous Mormons came forth from their dwellings,
begging to be allowed to see its mysterious pages; and by the time I
reached the prophet's house, they amounted to a perfect crowd. I met
Joseph Smith at a short distance from his dwelling, and was regularly
introduced to him. I had the honour of an interview with him who is a
prophet, a seer, a merchant, a "revelator," a president, an elder, an
editor, and the general of the "Nauvoo legion." He is a coarse, plebeian
person in aspect, and his countenance exhibits a curious mixture of the
knave and the clown. His hands are large and fat, and on one of his
fingers he wears a massive gold ring, upon which I saw an inscription.
His dress was of coarse country manufacture, and his white hat was
enveloped by a piece of black crape as a sign of mourning for his
deceased brother, Don Carlos Smith, the late editor of the "Times and
Seasons." His age is about thirty-five. I had not an opportunity of
observing his eyes, as he appears deficient in that open,
straightforward look which characterizes an honest man. He led the way
to his house, accompanied by a host of elders, bishops, preachers, and
common Mormons. On entering the house, chairs were provided for the
prophet and myself, while the curious and gaping crowd remained
standing. I handed the book to the prophet, and begged him to explain
its contents. He asked me if I had any idea of its meaning. I replied,
that I believed it to be a Greek Psalter; but that I should like to hear
his opinion. "No," he said; "it ain't Greek at all; except, perhaps, a
few words. What ain't Greek, is Egyptian; and what ain't Egyptian, is
Greek. This book is very valuable. _It is a dictionary of Egyptian
Hieroglyphics._" Pointing to the capital letters at the commencement of
each verse, he said: "Them figures is Egyptian hieroglyphics; and them
which follows, is the interpretation of the hieroglyphics, written in
the reformed Egyptian. Them characters is like the letters that was
engraved on the golden plates." Upon this, the Mormons around began to
congratulate me on the information I was receiving. "There," they said;
"we told you so--we told you that our prophet would give you
satisfaction. None but our prophet can explain these mysteries." The
prophet now turned to me, and said, "this book ain't of no use to you,
you don't understand it." "Oh yes," I replied; "it is of some use; for
if I were in want of money, I could sell it, and obtain, perhaps, enough
to live on for a whole year." "But what will you take for it?" said the
prophet and his elders. "My price," I replied, "is higher than you would
be willing to give." "What price is that?" they eagerly demanded. I
replied, "I will not tell you what price I would take; but if you were
to offer me this moment nine hundred dollars in gold for it, you should
not have it." They then repeated their request that I should lend it to
them until the prophet should have time to translate it, and promised me
the most ample security; but I declined all their proposals. I placed
the book in several envelopes, and as I deliberately tied knot after
knot, the countenances of many among them gradually sunk into an
expression of great despondency. Having exhibited the book to the
prophet, I requested him in return to shew me his papyrus; and to give
me his own explanation, which I had hitherto received only at second
hand. He proceeded with me to his office, accompanied by the multitude.
He produced the glass frames which I had seen on the previous day; but
he did not appear very forward to explain the figures. I pointed to a
particular hieroglyphic, and requested him to expound its meaning. No
answer being returned, I looked up, and behold! the prophet had
disappeared. The Mormons told me that he had just stepped out, and would
probably soon return. I waited some time, but in vain: and at length
descended to the street in front of the store. Here I heard the noise of
wheels, and presently I saw the prophet in his waggon, flourishing his
whip and driving away as fast as two fine horses could draw him. As he
disappeared from view, enveloped in a cloud of dust, I felt that I had
turned over another page in the great book of human nature.

Henry Caswall, "Three Days At Nauvoo" (1842)

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: June 12, 2023 06:36PM

Utahns always look the same to me.

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Posted by: adoylelb ( )
Date: June 14, 2023 11:27PM

I agree, they do look alike, whether or not the women have naturally blonde hair.

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