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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 04:03AM

(many) women will ‘cleave’ to (a / one) righteous man/ priesthood holder..

suggested as ‘the last days’ kinda thinking

I can’t remember where I heard this, anyone ?

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 09:58AM

I remember hearing that a lot. I was always curious about it as "cleave" means to split or sever right down the middle. Makes these women sound dangerous Thus the word cleavage?

I would be curious to know if this cleave thing is from the Bible and just another bad translation, or, from some dicey as usual Mormon thing.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 10:16AM

Well. Bless Google's heart.

Turns out it's all over the Bible. Like, Genesis 2:24.

24 "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh."

So if we take the cleave literally it sounds like the cutting in half and joining the two halves together as one. This could be an issue for those who take the Bible literally like all the fundies. And with expense of surgeons nowadays very impractical as well.

Also I take this to mean that it's against God's will to live at home once you come of age. So "Leave and Cleave" is the word!

The Bible is such fun.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 10:34AM

Beaver Cleaver says it best: “Sometimes things get so messed up, crying is the only thing you can do.”

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Posted by: CrispingPin ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 10:40AM

Isaiah 4 1
In that day seven women will take hold of one man and say, "We will eat our own food and provide our own clothes; only let us be called by your name. Take away our disgrace!"

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Posted by: decultified ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 11:01AM

Which JS copied & pasted as 2 Nephi 14:1, so it's also an official BOM doctrine.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 10:51AM

I can't seem to cleave to any man, and I'm sure as heck not cleaving to a TBM!

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Posted by: OP ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 02:15PM

summer Wrote:
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> I can't seem to cleave to any man, and I'm sure as
> heck not cleaving to a TBM!


Who would want to? lol

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 11:05AM

takk og god morgen fra Sunny Sequim Washington

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Posted by: OP ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 02:14PM

GNPE Wrote:
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> takk og god morgen fra Sunny Sequim Washington


It's ALWAYS sunny in Sequim, Squirm, Squish, Squid, SKWIM!

Sun belt beats the bible belt, WITH A BELT! Ouch

Got a sailboat?

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Posted by: kentish ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 12:56PM

Paul said: "Cleave to that which is good..." Old use of cleave means cling to, hold to, follow correct principles.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 01:07PM

There are two different words that are spelled and pronounced the same way.

1) Cleave, meaning to join or stick together, comes from the Old English "clifian," meaning "to adhere."

2) Cleave, meaning to divide or sever, comes from the Old English "cleofan," which meant "to split."

"Cleave" is consequently a contronym: a single word or pronunciation with two opposite meanings.

The result is a problem only EOD can answer: Was Beaver Cleaver a joiner, someone who wanted to adhere to others; or a splitter, a loner with a chain saw?

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Posted by: OP ( )
Date: July 18, 2023 02:10PM

I was a teacher... [That's as far as I made it in moron's world!]

And I could teach the moron 'church' ALL ABOUT ITSELF!
All it needs to know about honesty, forthrightness, and equality!

But it refuses to learn, to grow, to appreciate life!!!

To be FAIR with others!

Rather than badger, humiliate, torture, fail, harm, criticize...

It thinks it's (Mormons think they're) BETTER THAN OTHERS

That's how we know it' sNOT!!

Mormon 'church': MEN, cling to tscc like your life depends on it. WOMEN, cleave to your men, for it's all you have... besides '"preternal" 'ife'... and your children... Which don't actually belong to you but tscc!

It's ingrained, dude. Sad for all sexes, including the sex-less, over-sexed, and the sexy alike!

That's why Mormonism doesn't work for SINGLE women, or single MEN, or even families, ESPECIALLY FAMILIES!

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