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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: January 06, 2024 05:59PM

It would have been nice if that contractor had trusted his gut and informed the police. A friendly police visit with some probing questions being asked might have deterred the perp.

Jodi had a similar prison?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: January 06, 2024 06:04PM

I haven't read any background on this, which makes it a lot easier to jump to erroneous conclusions (the best kind!!!), but is it possible that the contractor thought he was building a "Safe Room"?  Aren't Safe Rooms all the rage now?

I have a Safe Room, and Costco helps me keep it well stocked!  Warning: it's a Safe Room for me, but probably not for you...

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: January 06, 2024 06:05PM

Is that where you practice those dubious self-care methods?

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: January 06, 2024 06:15PM

To heck with 'self-care'!

I'm thinking of taking classes on 'other-harm' methods...

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: January 07, 2024 01:07AM

Two details which bothered the contractor were that the perp wanted the room sound-proofed, and that there were to be hooks on the wall.

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Posted by: Nightingale ( )
Date: January 18, 2024 03:13PM

summer Wrote:
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> Two details which bothered the contractor were
> that the perp wanted the room sound-proofed, and
> that there were to be hooks on the wall.


No kidding. Kind of a clue.

Too bad it is ingrained in most of us, as far as I know, to be courteous and mind our own business. If you're a decent person yourself you don't tend to think of others as evil, at least in my world.

It's starting to feel like there's an over-abundance of evil. I've always thought it was a far outlier of a phenomenon. One hour of watching daily news amply demonstrates that is not true. What it always this way or is there something in the water at this point in human history?

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Posted by: Non-mo ( )
Date: January 12, 2024 06:46AM

elderolddog Wrote:
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> I haven't read any background on this, which makes
> it a lot easier to jump to erroneous conclusions
> (the best kind!!!), but is it possible that the
> contractor thought he was building a "Safe
> Room"?  Aren't Safe Rooms all the rage now?
>
> I have a Safe Room, and Costco helps me keep it
> well stocked!  Warning: it's a Safe Room for
> me, but probably not for you...

So this is what they mean by a "safe space".

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Posted by: Margie ( )
Date: January 06, 2024 06:33PM

Hidden True Crime has an episode showing pictures of the house and the "panic room".Creepy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yRb6RhLlIc&t=168s

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Posted by: Non-mo ( )
Date: January 12, 2024 06:45AM

Was Ayoola Ajayi a Mormon convert?

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Posted by: Johnny ( )
Date: January 17, 2024 06:18AM

Villager Wrote:
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> https://www.ksl.com/article/46592568/ksl-investiga
> tes-ayoola-ajayis-changing-immigration-status-life
> -in-utah

Another one for the LDS Wall of Shame along with Ted Bundy (also bap'd)

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: January 17, 2024 04:18PM

Neither of those people were real Mormons. They were simply psychopaths adopting a new persona to fit their new environment. If they had lived in Nazi Germany or Maoist China, they'd have joined the ruling party; if they lived in evangelical world, they'd have tried to become Joel Orstein.

Mormonism is irrelevant.

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Posted by: Villager ( )
Date: January 14, 2024 03:19PM

I guess he was what they used to called "golden"---- all ready for baptism.

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Posted by: lousyleper ( )
Date: January 14, 2024 03:26PM

Too bad. Didn't last long. 10 years. Dad and mom made me wait a year before dunking.



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 01/14/2024 03:29PM by lousyleper.

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: January 14, 2024 04:09PM

If you were baptized, you fulfilled your responsibility as a golden contact. The missionaries, the bishop, the stake president all got to tally an additional convert and were happy.

If you subsequently fell away, no one cares. The numbers will live on.

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Posted by: lousyleper ( )
Date: January 14, 2024 04:29PM


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Posted by: devoted ( )
Date: January 14, 2024 09:54AM

I've heard that St. George and it's surrounding developments have quite a few high end homes that are kitted out for Preppers, and those homes have both safe rooms (for nuclear fallout), etc. as well as water catchment and other survival systems in place. So the contractor would have probably installed quite a few and thought nothing about children being held hostage.

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Posted by: momjeansnotlogged in ( )
Date: January 16, 2024 01:52PM

Except that the door locked from the outside, not the inside like any other safe room.

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Posted by: elderolddog ( )
Date: January 16, 2024 02:27PM

And there you have the
difference between a
Safe Room and a Jail~~

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Posted by: devoted ( )
Date: January 17, 2024 06:50AM

Can you point us to the information of just how the door locked in this instance? I have only seen some speculation that it only locked from the outside.

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Posted by: momjeansnot logged in ( )
Date: January 17, 2024 10:27PM

Hidden True Crime on You Tube provided a realtor's virtual tour of the inside and outside of the house.

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Posted by: devoted ( )
Date: January 18, 2024 03:06PM

I just watched that podcast and they're not certain about the details either. But what I wonder is if the boy was locked in this room -- that locks from the outside only -- how did he escape? If it's a panic room, then it would also have a way to exit the room. That's the purpose of a panic room.

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