I will give it two years. The more I see on line and online podcasts the more convinced I am that the Church is going to have to ditch this if they want to have young people stay in the Church.
The proclamation makes it clear marriage is between a male and a female. As the Church tries to embrace all people the family proclamation has to go. I have yet to see a family complete with mum and dad and the kids get converted in the past years. And I travel a lot.

I see more people leaving the church as a family than joining the church as a family

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> I see more people leaving the church as a family
> than joining the church as a family

I don't remember that many families ever joining en masse. But the small children of converts are nearly as good as BIC when it comes to these things.

They won't publicly disavow it. They will stop referring to it in lessons and church talks.

My dad had it hanging in a dark corner of the hallway. It was supposed to be prominently displayed when visitors entered the house. I'm pretty sure that no one coming to visit the Goops ever noticed it. Considering that there are gay/lesbians in my family, it was a crappy thing to have hanging on the wall. Although I think donating $$$ to Prop 8 was worse.

After my dad went to the hospital for stroke and I knew he was never going to return. I tossed it into the fireplace~ glass frame and all. The glass shattered as it burned to a crisp. Wasn't a big deal because I shoveled out the ashes and glass shards. A well fitting end to a crappy document.

Maybe someone should print it on toilet paper.

I don't think so. Oaks is really into it judging by past conferences and you know that he's next in line.

The church isn’t going to do anything about the proclamation. I think the church is putting more focus on the temple and you will never see a same sex sealing. It’s a multiple tiered church. No LGBTQ+ will get a 2nd anointment.

Oh it will change. The ruling class will make a great trade....they offer religious liberty (which is already guaranteed by the constitution) in exchange for protected (preferred) class status. They need to beef up the LDS SDG/DEI/ESG scores to protect their ample investments. The exact same reason why Bednar attends climate repentance rallies and LDS magazines now show a variety of demographics in their photographs now.

A couple of years ago, a group of trusted LGBT+ "leaders" were given a tour of the Washington DC temple. Check out the expression on the TBM's face while he looks at the obviously gay and trans visitors nearby.

https://www.deseret.com/faith/2022/4/27/23034223/latter-day-saint-leaders-lgbt-advocates-common-ground-washington-dc-temple-faith-religious-liberty

'Latter-day Saints sat peacefully with dozens of LGBTQ advocates in the Celestial Room of the Washington D.C. Temple last week during a special private tour of the church’s holiest space, which normally is closed to the public.

'Perfect quiet is normal etiquette for a Celestial Room, but the LGBTQ leaders from across the country said the moments they shared in the temple with their friends from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints strengthened relationships that are actively working to beef up both gay rights and religious rights across the United States.

'“We truly can have LGBTQ liberty and religious liberty together. These are not oppositional viewpoints,” said Angela Hughey, president of One Community, a coalition seeking equal treatment for LGBTQ Arizonans.'

They might protect their investments but the RLDS lost 1/3 of their membership over mainstreaming too much. I guess the business means more than tithing revenue.

I bet that Mormon leadership wishes they had a way to erase the Proclamation on the Family and make everyone forget it ever existed. Same thing for Book of Abraham and the First Vision.

Maybe they are blowing Jesus up so big they can deflate those other things over time and it won’t be noticed.

There are far bigger problems that LDS Inc is facing that are causing/allowing the youth to leave than just the Croc Proc. Sexism, boredom, goofy temple rituals immediately come to mind, plus info on the internet.

You can’t polish a turd. I guess the end achievement of the scam is a lucrative holding company.

of church pictures hanging around. The only one was of the SL temple and it was an old one in an oval frame that my nonmormon BIL bought at a yard sale. That's it. I've seen that hanging in some homes, but I've never read it.

As an adult you can tell that they are just making things up as they go, but as a child I didn't know that nor could I figure it out. I'm so glad I'm out.

It certainly will.

LDS Inc. has a delicate balancing act, embrace pop culture too much and too quickly and they'll see wholesale loss of membership.

While on the subject of GBLTQAI+ism; "Homosexuality, like androgyny, might be an instinctive racial response to overpopulation, crowding, and stress. Both flourish when empire reaches its apogee." - Edward Abbey

You're quoting that?

It's cowardly to blame one's own homophobia on someone else.