Saturday night in the Chapel a large light fixture weighing more than 50 pounds fell out of the ceiling. It was being held up in the airs by the wires!!! We still had church.

Building is about 40 years old. When things start to fall, this is similar to the Church falling apart. LOL

I was told that they had to put a work order in the get this repaired and it may take time. They could not get an electrical contractor in immediately remove it. I said what!!! Very dangerous situation because if it falls there will be glass everywhere. I told them that I am a licensed electrician and this is dangerous. So they blocked off area a bit but not enough for me.

Looking at the fixture hanging from the ceiling I could see many electrical violations. Because all this stuff is hidden no one would know!!! Just like the Church, hide historical facts but one day they will come out.

My question is what about the other 9 large light fixtures. Are they going to get checked!! And properly repaired to code? My guess is no!!!! Too costly.

Well, you're the expert, but I would think that your town's building inspector might take an interest in the situation.

Bingo. One phone call should get those inspections to happen.

The inspector might be LDS.

If this happened in my town, I think it would be taken care of quietly if at all, depending on the inspector.

Members give the church a pass on everything. And church leaders know this and use it to their advantage.

Heating in building stops working~ Leaders tell members to bring extra coats and blankets. "The early pioneers didn't have heating."

A/C is not working~ Leaders tell members that everyone will have to make do sweltering in the heat. "Sacrifice is great."

In my uninspired heathen opinion, church should be cancelled until repairs (and inspections) are made. There are no lessons or talks that must be heard. It's not the end of the world if church meetings are postponed for a couple of weeks.

Normally, angels sitting on a light fixture isn't enough to bring it down. But these are Mormon angels.

Yes, mormon angels weigh more. Too many funeral potatoes and dirty soda.

where, Please

I've talked to young Mormon men who did ward house construction. They bragged about how many things they'd done wrong, because they didn't care. Talk about a kind of socialist decadence!They were paid little, and carted around in the backs of canopied pickup trucks.

When I was eight, I had to do construction work on a new ward house in Citrus Heights, CA. It was amateur time at the church. My father was assigned (by someone who didn't like him) to operate a chop saw to cut lengths of 2x4 boards. I had to carry all the boards by hand. They stuck him is a room with no windows. My guess is that the neighbors complained about all the sawdust and the noise. Yeah, it was class act. My father's sawing room had filled up with airborne sawdust so thick I could feel the flakes on the inner walls of my nostrils.And I was dizzy on tannic acid. I complained and got called a sissy for it.

When I got home, sweaty and beat, my sister started in on me.In a rage I pulled off my work boots and threw them at her. With a pop pop, the two boots embedded themselves in the bathroom door.

>> I've talked to young Mormon men who did ward house construction. They bragged about how many things they'd done wrong, because they didn't care.

That reminds me of the Soviet era saying, "They pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work."

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> >> I've talked to young Mormon men who did ward
> house construction. They bragged about how many
> things they'd done wrong, because they didn't
> care.
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> That reminds me of the Soviet era saying, "They
> pretend to pay us, and we pretend to work."

History repeats itself. Our 15 year plan ends in 2030.

Can't you just call it in to the city office responsible for investigating code violations?

As far as I know, (most) code officials focus on construction not maintenance matters; the work should have been inspected before occupancy was allowed.
If someone was injured, sometimes other officials take charge.

eta (as a former licensed electrical contractor) The wiring in any structure has to pass inspection before a connection to the grid is allowed, that's an inspection of the circuits (the 'rough-in'). After the circuits are inspected & passed the fixtures are installed.

For the incident described, I think a less-than- 'best practice' installation of that fixture happened, not a failure of the structural or electrical installation (i.e. the rough-in).



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 02/24/2024 02:25PM by GNPE.

It makes me wonder if this will happen to all the mass produced temples in future. Half of them seem to be being renovated at any given time. The Salt Lake Temple is currently being gutted by NelsonCo so many things of historical or architectural value will have been removed. I am aware that they have already sanded away original fittings.

It is like the Soviet Union when all the badly built infrastructure began to crumble like the Chernobyl Plant.