LDS Living promoting CRT. Does this kind of rhetoric offer any more longterm hope than racist priesthood bans?

https://www.ldsliving.com/he-does-not-ask-us-to-deny-anothers-pain-but-to-know-it-awakening-charity-by-facing-historys-injustices/s/12034?

"Yet the adversary attempts to distort the great commandment through pernicious forms of racism. He attempts to convince us that if we want a world in which race is no longer a contributing factor to how various groups are treated, then we need to stop focusing on race. This perspective might work if we lived in an ideal society without a history of slavery, convict leasing, and lynching. Nevertheless, we live in a fallen world, a world that has historical sins that reverberate into today. To pretend that race is not important does not show compassion for the experiences of others who, by virtue of their experiences with racism, know that it is."

https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/16z4pr0/i_saw_someones_post_about_mark_e_petersens_quote/

"Is there any reason to think that the same principle of rewards and punishments did not apply to us and our deeds in the pre-existent world as will apply hereafter? Is there reason then why the type of birth we receive in this life is not a reflection of our worthiness or lack of it in the pre-existent life? We must accept the justice of God. He is fair to all. He is not a respecter of persons. He will meet to us according to what we deserve.

"With that in mind, we can account in no other way for the birth of some of the children of God in darkest Africa, or in flood-ridden China, or among the starving hordes of India, while some of the rest of us are born in the United States? We cannot escape the conclusion that because of performance in our pre-existence some of us are born as Chinese, some as Japanese, some as Indians, some as Negroes, some as Americans, some as Latter-day Saints. There are rewards and punishments, fully in harmony with His established policy in dealing with sinners and saints, regarding all according to their deeds."

It's always Satan, isn't it. It's never because we are the evil ones. It must be because of outside forces that we can't control and we are so helpless and poor pitiable mortals.

Satan is as useful as Jesus. Salt and Pepper.

When it comes to race, the Mormon church should be giving no advice or directives but should shut up, open their eyes, and listen.


Just open your heart and open your mind and the only way to do that is to drop this religious crap that has a strangle hold on the world.

Well then, just maybe the Adversary wants the church to stop with the tribe and chosen people BS.

+ a million That says everything.

I’m sure the article goes on to recommend members ignore LDS teachings in the Book of Mormon and PofGP that dark skin is a marker of wickedness. Do they really think their revisionism will heal the harm their canon continues to inflict? Nothing less than an admission of guilt, a plea for forgiveness, restitution to those harmed and a plan never to repeat the racist nonsense would constitute what the church teaches are the requirements for repentance. But of course as Dallin Oaks said of apologies: “…the history of the church is not ….to give them.”

back to the days when ETBenson wrote a pamphlet saying that the civil rights matter was 'A Tool of Communist Deception';

I've forgotten whether or not that was published by ChurchCo, but as memory served, it was by Bookcraft or something similar...

(If I pin down the details, I will update)

"ET Benson" has a nice ring to it!

please check that with LW, ok?

A couple of short excerpts from "For What Purpose" (1961) by Alvin Dyer [then European Mission President, later an apostle and counselor in the First Presidency]:

"Why is it that you are not colored? Have you ever asked yourself that question? Who had anything to do with your being born a Chinese or a Hindu or a Negro? Is God such an unjust person that he would make you a Negro cursed under the cursing of Cain that you could not hold the Priesthood of God?"

"There is an imposed judgment placed upon everyone who leaves the spirit world, just the same as there will be when they leave this life and go into one of the three places. When they left the spirit world they had already been judged by what they had done in the spirit and in their previous life. When you understand that, you know then that God is not unjust to cause a righteous spirit to be born as a cursed member of the black race or to be cursed as one of the other people on the earth have been cursed."

If you go to www.f1.com you will find much more interesting RACE issues.

Such as "will Red Bull driver Max Verstappen win his 4th F1 title"?

Can he win 19 of 22 races again this year?

F1 race is much more interesting than anything ever with MFMC.