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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 01, 2024 11:05PM

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https://atlantablackstar.com/2024/10/31/elon-expects-his-harem-to-shack-up-with-him-elon-musks-35-million-compound-for-his-11-kids-and-their-mothers-sparks-controversy-online-among-people-who-believe-hes-starting-a-cult-to/


Elon Musk is settling into his “Mormon arc” amid news of his plans for a not-so-secret $35 million family compound in Austin, Texas, coming to light.

The tech billionaire has perceivably made the declining birth rate a mission he is happy to take on, as several reports illustrate him as procreation obsessed and someone who has “offered his own sperm to friends and acquaintances.”

Tesla’s co-founder has 11 known children with three women, though there are speculations that he could have fathered more. The New York Times revealed that he purchased a 14,400-square-foot mansion and three nearby properties in an exposé published on Oct. 29.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 07:18AM

It does sound like the beginnings of a cult. I'm sure that Elon has all kinds of opinions that he thinks are the only correct opinions to have. Next he will start his own school within the compound.

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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 09:01AM

I've long suspected that many wealthy people still very much believe in the discredited science of eugenics. This article shows that our He-man, Mr. Musk, is a firm believer in this theory.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 09:31AM

When he sees the results of this experiment, he may start to think otherwise. Offspring are always a roll of the dice.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 09:47AM

His children would have hooves.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/02/2024 09:48AM by Dave the Atheist.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 10:02AM

At least one doesn't like him very much. A sperm spreader (dog term) is not a father.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 12:34PM

Russ better get the missionaries to Elon. He’s ripe for the picking. Think about all the tithing he would donate.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 12:43PM

There is only one thing Elon has any interest at all in donating.

He is very talented in some ways, and spectacularly inept in others, and I don't think he is aware of the difference. I would cast him as the villain in a horror movie in a heartbeat.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: November 05, 2024 09:51AM

My own assessment exactly. Like many rich people, he thinks that being able to make lots of money renders him an ideal choice to run a country, but it does not require the same skill set: leaders of countries have to think about other people than just themselves.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 06, 2024 12:42AM


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Posted by: Subeamnotlogedin ( )
Date: November 12, 2024 10:58AM

Rubicon Wrote:
Think about all the tithing he would donate.

The lds church already has a 100 billion dollar rainy day fund.

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Posted by: Rubicon ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 01:23PM

Elon is correct in the regard that having children and raising them to be productive drives the economy. The post WWII baby boom drove the American economy because new homes had to be built. A growing person generates all sorts of demand for consumer products. Diapers, cribs, a continual flow of new clothing. You have a younger base to take care of the aging.

A huge reduction of births creates a lot of problems. All these single people as they age who’s going to take care of them? The politicians will sell assisted suicide to get rid of the problem.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 02, 2024 01:40PM

There has been a huge number of migrant/immigrant families entering the U.S. I teach their children, and trust me, there is no shortage of children.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 05, 2024 12:30PM

I see two problems with the influx of migrant children. Yes, they help keep our labor pool afloat, which is a good thing. But....

I expect to start hearing "why should I have to help pay for other people's kids to go to school." We are already hearing that, but I expect it to get louder.

Second, the day is not far off that the birthrate in the countries that typically supply us immigrants will be so low that our supply of replacement labor will dry up.

We will be in the awkward situation of complaining about immigrant kids and desperately needing them at the same time.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 13, 2024 07:10AM

BoJ, the decision to educate and offer additional services to migrant/immigrant children came via the Supreme Court. It's entirely possible that could change, but it would likely take a few years to do so. At the time, the thinking was that we don't want to punish children for decisions that their parents make.

While some children were educated in their home countries prior to arrival, we are seeing increasing numbers with little to no prior education. I'm talking fourth and fifth graders who have never been to school before. As you can imagine, that presents us with quite a challenge.

At this point, public school teachers are keeping a wary eye on that situation, but are more immediately concerned by the potential loss of Title 1 funding for high-poverty schools. We will see how it goes. If anything at all affects my pensionable income, I can be out the door within a few months.

I don't see birth rates dropping in Central and South America as long as they are high poverty areas. Migrants and immigrants coming over the southern border are here for economic opportunities. Their birth rates start to drop as they gain a firm economic footing here.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 11/13/2024 07:12AM by summer.

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Posted by: Blue Swede ( )
Date: November 04, 2024 06:04PM

Why do we refer to this man by his first name?

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Posted by: Silence is Golden ( )
Date: November 04, 2024 06:28PM

What I do not understand is why we give him any credibility to begin with.

Yes, he took some big risks. But it is his workers who ultimately made him rich and those who purchased his goods or supported his Space X. He seems to have forgotten that reality.

I work for a billionaire family group, and they remind us often how grateful they are to the employees who contributed so much to their success and wealth.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: November 05, 2024 12:35PM

Taylor Swift did the same when she gave the people who helped put on her concert tour big fat bonuses, saying it would have been impossible to put on the concerts without them.

She also donated $5 million in relief effort money after Hurricane Helene. How much did Elon, who is many times richer, donate?

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: November 04, 2024 11:39PM

His name is Leon Musk.

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Posted by: manager ( )
Date: November 09, 2024 08:22PM

Dave the Atheist Wrote:
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> His name is Leon Musk.


Muskrat?

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Posted by: T-Bone ( )
Date: November 11, 2024 09:49PM

Procreation obsessed = you've just described every man from the age of puberty to, well, I don't know.

Not sure if that ever goes away.

I've started to see the "declining birth rate" as much more than a crazy, right-wing conspiracy theory. Do an internet search for Stephen Shaw, a data scientist who made a documentary called Birthgap. I've listened to him on a few podcasts, and watched his documentary. I didn't find it political at all. He just talks data.

Like everything else, info on the internet is a buffet. Take what you like, leave the rest.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 12, 2024 07:24PM

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2022/05/17/racist-great-replacement-conspiracy-theory-explained


White nationalist David Lane – who was imprisoned for crimes committed as a member of the white supremacist terrorist group The Order – popularized this idea in his “White Genocide Manifesto,” which he wrote in prison.

Lane and others who promote the idea of “white genocide” portray the fear at the heart of the “great replacement” – non-white immigration – alongside other supposed dangers to whites, including mixed-race families, abortion, same-sex relationships, mass media (which they falsely portray as a vector for Jewish propaganda) and drug and alcohol dependency.

And while “great replacement” propaganda is frequently aimed at newer immigrant cohorts – Middle Easterners, South Asians and Africans in Europe, and Latin Americans in the United States – “white genocide” proponents often falsely depict Black people as pawns in a Jewish plot to undermine white America with violence and crime.


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Posted by: Chicken Royale ( )
Date: November 13, 2024 02:49PM

T-Bone Wrote:
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> I've started to see the "declining birth rate" as
> much more than a crazy, right-wing conspiracy
> theory.

Well it isn't. A number of parts of the developed world have a declining birthrate like Ireland, Italy and Japan... Way below replacement levels.

China may have more people than anywhere but it has massive demographic issues. The one child policy is causing them big problems. A lot of young Chinese aren't having children either. Their population may collapse soon.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 13, 2024 06:46PM

This is true for the entire world, including BRICS and "developing" countries.

Another reason why cults and religious fundies don't want girls to get an education.

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Posted by: FoxBat ( )
Date: November 14, 2024 09:55AM

anybody Wrote:
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> This is true for the entire world, including BRICS
> and "developing" countries.
>
> Another reason why cults and religious fundies
> don't want girls to get an education.

It's more to do with living standards. Living standards go up and birthrates go down.

College and university are luxuries. Most boys, let alone girls, will never get into them if they can barely afford food.

The current model of aid to the Developing World is colonial and patrician in its mindset. It doesn't help to develop local economies. Dumping lots of free clothes and food on poor countries is a temporary fix. It is better to build infrastructure and invest in businesses and infrastructure which will provide for these people.

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Posted by: blindguy ( )
Date: November 13, 2024 09:46PM

1) China reversed its one-child policy a few years back.

2) It may be wise to allow economies to stabilize and not grow too fast because Earth, the planet on which we live, is of finite size and therefore cannot support unlimited population growth.

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Posted by: FoxBat ( )
Date: November 14, 2024 09:38AM

blindguy Wrote:
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> 1) China reversed its one-child policy a few years
> back.


It doesn't matter if China has reversed its One Child Policy, it is still dealing with its effects generations later. It will continue to do so for a few decades more.

In some cases, parents had gender based abortions, so the One Child Policy had consequences in how many girls were born. (This has also been happening in India, which never had population control like this.)

> 2) It may be wise to allow economies to stabilize
> and not grow too fast because Earth, the planet on
> which we live, is of finite size and therefore
> cannot support unlimited population growth.

The size isn't the problem, it's the resources. The entire world's population could stand right next to one another on Rhode Island with room to spare. Large swathes of the world are almost completely uninhabited. Most of Russia, Canada, Australia and even Brazil have extremely low population density outside the coastal and southern regions.

The issue isn't space, it's resources and pollution.

The real concern for the elites of this world is that almost work will be automated in the near future. That means that there will be billions of very angry people with no work, and a few thousand super rich like Elon Musk living off investments. The bulk of people will be surplus to their requirements.

That's the real elephant in the room, and it explains many of their decisions. They have several choices to control the masses:
* Get us to reduce their numbers.
* Occupy us with computer games, sport, virtual reality, medication etc.
* Make us fight each other so we don't fight the ruling class.
* Send us to other planets when that is possible.
* Or the world's super rich themselves go elsewhere while the world's population duke it out.
* Revert to a more primitive lifestyle (the poor will have to do this because the rich won't.)

Ironically better living standards means a lower birthrate but they won't countenance that.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: November 13, 2024 11:04PM

Chicken Royale Wrote:
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> T-Bone Wrote:
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> A lot of
> young Chinese aren't having children either. Their
> population may collapse soon.

That's the current situation in Japan, not mainland China.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 14, 2024 04:45AM

Japan's main issue is that there is a bias against immigrants.

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Posted by: FoxBat ( )
Date: November 14, 2024 09:49AM

summer Wrote:
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> Japan's main issue is that there is a bias against
> immigrants.

It makes little odds. Europe is importing a lot of migrants. It's just a Bandaid. Within two or three generations, their birthrate goes down too in many cases. No one addresses the fact that child rearing has been made too expensive. People in the Developed World also have major issues with infertility. That's the big irony in the west... Many fertile people don't want kids, even when they have them while some others have to resort to IVF to fight infertility.

I have heard many explanations for infertility, but the more frightening ones include chemicals in our environment and food. Microplastics are often implicated. If that's the case then immigration won't solve it.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: November 14, 2024 10:27AM

This: "No one addresses the fact that child rearing has been made too expensive."

As French policy has shown (although the effect is weakening), if you make it easier to have and bring up children (with targeted aid and good-quality, free education), people have more children. It seems like a no-brainer to me, but apparently not...

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Posted by: FoxBat ( )
Date: November 14, 2024 09:43AM

anybody Wrote:
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> Chicken Royale Wrote:
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> > T-Bone Wrote:
> >
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>
> > A lot of
> > young Chinese aren't having children either.
> Their
> > population may collapse soon.
>
> That's the current situation in Japan, not
> mainland China.

From what I hear, the rural areas produce children, but the urban areas in the east of China have an issue with young people who are rebelling against previous generations, and that includes having no children.

The One Child Policy is still causing problems, which is why they got rid of it. It will cause problems for many more decades.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: November 14, 2024 04:42AM

For China, I think the current policy is that if the first child is a girl, the couple can try again one more time. There is a cultural bias against girls there (shocking, I know.) It is thought that only a boy can provide for the parents in old age.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: November 13, 2024 08:21PM

I volunteer to gather some INTEL for RfM posters & readers;

any suggestions for a alt identification?

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Posted by: stillanon ( )
Date: November 15, 2024 11:33PM

Polygamist compound? Texas will tolerate rich assholes. They won't tolerate polygamists. Ask Warren Jeffs and his "Yearning for Zion" compound enablers. I think most people in America are sick of Weird Elon. Weird Al- Cool. Weird Elon? No.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: November 15, 2024 11:45PM

Wasn't the Waco Branch Davidian cult there? That was a long time ago though. There seem to be plenty of weirdoes everywhere, rich and poor. :-} I haven't cracked the code about which compounds are good or bad.

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