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Posted by: Green Tea Lover ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 02:04PM

My dad argued that continuing to say Mormon is like calling a Black person the N-word. He said it was used as a slur going back to the 1800s when the mobs would drive Mormons out. How would you respond to this? Is the word that offensive?? I find that hard to believe.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 02:27PM

Well, I don't think that African-Americans were recently running ad campaigns around the slogan "'... And I'm a N-word"...

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Posted by: Green Tea Lover ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 03:05PM

Wow that takes me back. You just unlocked a buried memory of seeing “Meet the Mormons” in theaters

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 02:31PM

That's ridiculous. Ask him who named their holy book that they shoved everywhere and what the name of the book actually is.

They just want to dump the name because the BoM is blatantly racist and not factual like they claimed, IMO. Is he ashamed of it too? I would be.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 02:37PM


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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 02:41PM

That's hilarious!

Mormons are so desperate to be seen as being persecuted when all they are getting is a little side eye.

The mobs weren't persecuting but were only retaliating against the Mormon's bad behavior taking over towns and using their numbers to do what they wanted.

Soft Machine hit it on the head reminding that they ran the "And I'm a Mormon" ad campaign for years.

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 03:05PM

With everyone and their mother claiming to be victims nowadays, you gotta come up with something better than that.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 03:33PM

A Very long time ago, primary children were taught to say:

'We're not Christians, we're Mormons'

true, dat even though documentation is probably absent / AWOL

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 03:50PM

I was a Primary child. I was never taught to say that. I do remember being told we were not Protestant. We didn’t protest against the Catholic Church, we were a restoration of the true church.

Of course that put us kids in an awkward spot when answering a questionaire about our religious affiliation, and the choices were Protestant or Catholic. Mormons also recited the Protestant version of the Lord’s Prayer, on the rare times they recited it at all. We always seemed a lot more Protestant than Catholic to me. Besides, we “knew” the Catholic Church was the Great and Abominable.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 04:00PM

I don’t think the Mormon Tabernacle or Mormon Tabernacle Choir ever had any other name until Rusty’s edict that they had to have a new name.

A rationale is the reasoning behind a decision. A rationalization is a concocted reason, usually made after the fact, to justify a controversial decision or action, when the concocted is unwilling to own up to the actual reason for the decision.

Calling “Mormon” a slur is a rationalization. Dagny stated the real reason they are dumping the name.

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Posted by: reality check ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 04:36PM

Sorry, but your dad is either

1) mindlessly parroting the current church party line
2) gaslighting you
3) an idiot.


Here's the church PR dept proudly proclaiming its I'm a Mormon" ad campaign:

https://news-jm.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/-i-m-a-mormon-campaign


Huge billboard ads in Times Square:

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/mormon-ads-new-york-city


A pass-along card (from TBM blog):

https://everydaymissionaries.org/pass-along-card-experiment/


"Meet the Mormons" movie (on official church YT channel)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmJaruLErcI


Prez Monson reciting "Dare to Be a Mormon" in General Conference:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2011/10/dare-to-stand-alone?lang=eng


McConkie's "MORMON Doctrine":

p. 512-13, MORMONISM: "This name — conferred upon the beliefs and doctrines of the saints and used by its original coiners as an opprobrious epithet — is in no sense offensive to members of [long TSCC name]… [Church members] do not recoil from the designation of their views as Mormonism."

p. 513, MORMONS: "[U]nofficially and by way of nickname, members of this restored Church have become known as *Mormons*, a name which is in no sense offensive or objectionable to them." [Emphasis in original.]

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No, it's not a slur. The NAACP never organized an "I'm a N*" ad campaign or produced a "Meet the N*s" movie.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 04:58PM

Thanks for the documentation. This is one of those things that will go down the memory hole if documentation is not kept.

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Posted by: Silence is Golden ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 05:28PM

Like many things that mankind tries to attach to religious dogma. It is just a word that is given purpose by religious followers, and for its leaders to maintain conformity.

Outside of that, the word "Mormon" has no value.

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Posted by: anybody ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 07:37PM

"We have always been at war with Eastasia."

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 07:43PM

Who knew that what people are supposed to call the church is just a "temporary" commandment.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 08:25PM

If calling a Mormon a Mormon annoys them...so much the better!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/19/2024 08:27PM by Lethbridge Reprobate.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 08:45PM

"He said it was used as a slur"

Ask him if he has a hankering for green Jello with shredded carrots.

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 09:20PM

Slur? If it is, it is because they made it one. I was also taught to say "I'm not Christian, I am mormon". In Utah and CA. They don't like the fact that people know mormons are a damn cult with a bad reputation. Tough. Own it, it's who you are.

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Posted by: stillanon ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 10:03PM

Well, Black people never fawned over "The Book of N-Word".
As long as mormons keep that as sacred scripture, calling the "mormons" is fair.

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Posted by: OrigamiDude ( )
Date: December 19, 2024 10:50PM

No less than The Hinkster told us missionaries "Don't ever be ashamed to tell people you are a MORMON".

Basically the same as David O. McKay and Little Tommie Monson.

Then comes Nelson & his pet peeves and uses his new found domination to ramrod through all the asinine stuff that has bothered him for decades. For him "More Good"/Mormon is not a good thing. If anything, he cements the reality of the Temple teaching that Satan is the God of this world - his God, his way.

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Posted by: Heartless ( )
Date: December 22, 2024 12:01AM

Search "I'm a mormon boy song Benson" on you tube.

Hear Mormon Prophet Ezra Taft Benson sing I'm a Mormon Boy during the April 1989 conference.

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