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Posted by: BoydKKK ( )
Date: February 23, 2025 08:13PM

We have some absolutely evil people in the world. Yet "all" are given resurrection and glorious afterlives - per MFMC - except Sons of Perdition.

Per Joey "if people knew how glorious the Terrestrial Kingdom was they would be killing themselves to get there".

But - Hitler and so many others who are absolute evil - no amount of 'repent' can make it right.

Why not just let them linger, NO Resurrection?

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: February 24, 2025 09:15PM

They could spend eternity shoveling unicorn poop.

It's a pity Joseph didn't give us guidance on Bigfoot, gnomes, and woodland fairies.

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Posted by: BoydKKK ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 01:30AM

On Unicorns.

They are in the Bible - 9 times.

Cats - nowhere in the Bible.

Both absent from the Book of Mormon.

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Posted by: Aardvark ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 04:16PM

bradley Wrote:
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> They could spend eternity shoveling unicorn poop.
>
> It's a pity Joseph didn't give us guidance on
> Bigfoot, gnomes, and woodland fairies.

But other church leaders DID give guidance on Bigfoot. There are at least two accounts by major figures.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 08:05AM

"Cats - nowhere in the Bible."

Cats were next on Joseph's list of plain and precious truths to restore to the Bible when he had a bad day at Carthage.

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Posted by: Aardvark ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 04:17PM

bradley Wrote:
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> "Cats - nowhere in the Bible."
>
> Cats were next on Joseph's list of plain and
> precious truths to restore to the Bible when he
> had a bad day at Carthage.

The Ancient Egyptians worshiped cats.
The Ancient Hebrews didn't like them.
Go figure.

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Posted by: BoydKKK ( )
Date: February 27, 2025 03:15PM

Aardvark Wrote:
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> bradley Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > "Cats - nowhere in the Bible."
> >
> > Cats were next on Joseph's list of plain and
> > precious truths to restore to the Bible when he
> > had a bad day at Carthage.
>
> The Ancient Egyptians worshiped cats.
> The Ancient Hebrews didn't like them.
> Go figure.

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Controlling religions have problems with a lot of stuff they can't control - or may be fun.

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 10:18AM

Isn't it marvelous?

God makes flawed people who "sin" and do horribly cruel things. Then God forgives the people who inflicted cruelty.
Then everyone is supposed to be thrilled to live with the monsters for eternity because God loves you!

Somehow this is supposed to show God's mercy and justice. What it really shows is God's own cruel streak, IMO.

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Posted by: OrigamiDude ( )
Date: February 27, 2025 03:17PM

dagny Wrote:
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> Isn't it marvelous?
>
> God makes flawed people who "sin" and do horribly
> cruel things. Then God forgives the people who
> inflicted cruelty.
> Then everyone is supposed to be thrilled to live
> with the monsters for eternity because God loves
> you!
>
> Somehow this is supposed to show God's mercy and
> justice. What it really shows is God's own cruel
> streak, IMO.
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Careful, Brother Adolf Hitler is a baptized, endowed and married Mormon - with Eva Braun sealed to him in an LDS Temple.

You can't be questioning TheLardzServants, the Profits..., can you?

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Posted by: Done & Done ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 10:24AM

When discussing Mormonism making senses is not going to get you very far. :)

One baptism is all it takes to wash away even Hitler's sins? Can't find anything in Mormonism to say that isn't true. All they can say is it's all up to Heavenly Father in the end.


Imagine you finally land your mansion in the CK and you lean over the garden wall to say hi to the new neighbor and are forced to blurt, "Aren't you the guy who killed eleven million people in gas chambers that one time?"

"Yeah. My bad. But at least I wasn't gay! And I never drank coffee."

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Posted by: Susan I/S ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 11:49AM

Or drank COKE!

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Posted by: BoydKKK ( )
Date: March 01, 2025 07:05PM

Done & Done Wrote:
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> When discussing Mormonism making senses is not
> going to get you very far. :)
>
> One baptism is all it takes to wash away even
> Hitler's sins? Can't find anything in Mormonism
> to say that isn't true. All they can say is it's
> all up to Heavenly Father in the end.
>
>
> Imagine you finally land your mansion in the CK
> and you lean over the garden wall to say hi to the
> new neighbor and are forced to blurt, "Aren't you
> the guy who killed eleven million people in gas
> chambers that one time?"
>
> "Yeah. My bad. But at least I wasn't gay! And I
> never drank coffee."

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And on the other side you discover Joe Stalin?

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Posted by: moehoward ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 11:58AM

"if people knew how glorious the Terrestrial Kingdom was they would be killing themselves to get there".

My ex-TBM wife use to say this. The line is so ridiculous,

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Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: February 25, 2025 12:08PM

I remember being told that quote from JS in primary or mutual. At the time it seemed strange.
If people actually believed JS, why weren't all the Mormons killing themselves? Why didn't JS kill himself if he knew that was fact?

There were a few times I felt uncomfortable as a child in church, and they both involved dying. I was taught that if the prophet said to jump off a cliff, I should have faith and do it. I was taught people would kill themselves to even get to the Terrestrial Kingdom. Such cult talk! That is how children are groomed.

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: February 27, 2025 05:06PM

But wait, maybe Joseph did kill himself to get there. He just used a mob to do it. There's such a thing as knowing too much.

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Posted by: BoydKKK ( )
Date: March 01, 2025 07:07PM

bradley Wrote:
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> But wait, maybe Joseph did kill himself to get
> there. He just used a mob to do it. There's such a
> thing as knowing too much.
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Joe was killed in a gunfight. Supposedly two of those against him later died from the gunshot wounds.

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Posted by: [|] ( )
Date: March 01, 2025 07:34PM

>Supposedly two of those against him later died from the gunshot wounds.

Apparently not

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Joseph_Smith

"There have been conflicting reports about injuries to members of the mob during the attack, and whether any died. Shortly after the events occurred, Taylor wrote that he heard that two of the attackers died when Smith shot them with his pistol.[12]: v7, p102 

Most accounts seem to agree that at least three attackers were wounded by Smith's gunfire, but there is no other evidence that any of them died as a result. John Wills was shot in the arm, William Vorhease was shot in the shoulder, and William Gallaher was shot in the face.[51][52] Others claimed that a fourth, unnamed man was also wounded.[52] Wills, Vorhease, Gallaher, and a Mr. Allen (possibly the fourth man) were all indicted for the murder of the Smith brothers. Wills, Vorhease, and Gallaher, perhaps conscious that their wounds could prove that they were involved in the mob, fled the county after being indicted and were never brought to trial.[53] Apart from Taylor's report of what he had heard, there is no evidence that Wills, Vorhease, Gallaher, or Allen died from their wounds."

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: March 01, 2025 10:00PM

Could have used the pepperbox to make his suicide by mob more convincing. And the church could be true.

The air was thick with rumors, so no wonder weapons were smuggled in. Joseph said he regretted starting polygamy, which hints that he knew things didn't look good. Apparently, Joseph wasn't quite ready to meet his maker.

So it seems some lambs don't like the slaughter to be one-sided.

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