Headline in the SLTrib touts "wisdom" of newest Apostle:

"Newest LDS apostle says porn addicts can kick their habit through professional help and Jesus’ love"

I'm rarely here anymore but still think this is a great place for those trying to shake the germs of mormondumb off their brains.

Congrats to all of you who are recovering!

That headline epitomizes the lame-brained thinking of the superstitious kingdom. They create the mountebanks like Floyd Godfrey and Jodi Hildebrandt who make careers out of bad ideas and phony medicine.

It helps them distract from the damage the mormonite cult does to children by poisoning their heads with nonsense and superstition by their fatuous blowing things out of proportion.

They can't clean up their own house and do any actual good for humanity but instead they work to cover up the rot within.

Their ideology empty and their doctrine is a fraud.

Brian the Christ's eternal blessings on all of you!

In the name of Cheese and Lies,

RAMEN!

"Newest LDS apostle says porn addicts can kick their habit through professional help and Jesus’ love"

I beat my LDS addiction without professional help or imaginary friends. Kind of the same thing, really.

Seeing naked people or body parts without context is meaningless.

A romance novel cover, nude people in a dance or athletic competition, or a naked classical statue like Michelangelo's David have context and meaning.

Semi-nakedness has much more "appeal" or aesthetic value as opposed to total nudity.

I remember seeing a 4,500 year old bead mesh dress from Ancient Egypt at the Boston MFA.

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https://collections.mfa.org/objects/146531

Depictions of women in Egyptian art occasionally feature garments decorated with an overall lozenge pattern. This design is believed to represent beadwork, which was either sewn onto a linen dress or worked into a separate net worn over the linen. This beadnet dress is the earliest surviving example of such a garment. It has been painstakingly reassembled from approximately seven thousand beads found in an undisturbed burial of a female contemporary of King Khufu. Although their string had disintegrated, a few beads still lay in their original pattern on and around the mummy, permitting an accurate reconstruction. The color of the beads has faded, but the beadnet was originally blue and blue green in imitation of lapis lazuli and turquoise.


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https://fashionhistory.fitnyc.edu/beadnet-dress/

Hill further suggests that “dresses made entirely of beaded nets … may have been worn over the nude body or as an ornamental overskirt” (47). Scholars are divided on this point. It is likely the beadnet dress was sewn onto or worn over a plain linen sheath dress like that seen in Figure 8. Notably its function was not only decorative, but also functional as it would help the dress fit the contours of the body more closely.

According to the Petrie Museum, Guy Brunton, the archeologist who discovered the dress in Figure 4:

“commented that the dress reminds us of the story of King Sneferu going on a sailing trip on the palace lake, recorded on a papyrus dating from around 1800 BC. The King gets twenty young women to row a boat and, to relieve his boredom, orders: ‘Let there be brought to me twenty women with the shapeliest bodies, breasts and braids, who have not yet given birth. And let there be brought to me 20 nets. Give those nets to these women in place of their clothes!'”



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"Seeing naked people or body parts without context is meaningless."

I'm not sure that's evident.

Our brains make meaning inside our own heads. To declare anything objectively meaningless sounds to me like projecting your ideas onto billions of people.

People have intellectual struggles with all sorts of human experiences. Sexual inclinations are neither good nor bad unless the individual considers them challenges or distractions from living its life in a particular way.

But mormondumb needs devils and sex is one of their favorites.

It looks like they have an unhealthy obsession with sex.

Why?

You don't find the same breast fetishism in other parts of the world.


Here's a famous ancient Indus Valley statue of a nude dancing girl.

My art history prof would be pleased I still remembered stuff from his class :)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancing_Girl_(prehistoric_sculpture)



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Mormonism is one big fetish.

If you fetishize an imaginary world, what happens to the real one?

I enjoy your comments. I try to figure them out and that's entertaining.

What is the cause of "breast fetishism"? Is it even a thing?

You seem to think it is, so...I wish you a happy life thinking about breasts and their fetish followers!

People have been walking around in the nude for centuries.

Patriarchal societies monetise and commodify women's bodies which leads to unhealthy and dangerous obsessions with body parts.


Example:

Do you get excited by seeing chicken thighs or leg of lamb at the meat counter?

Hey, Bradley. I don't know how my reply to anybody got stuck as a reply to your post. Something weird on the forum software.

anybody Wrote:
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> People have been walking around in the nude for
> centuries.
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> Patriarchal societies monetise and commodify
> women's bodies which leads to unhealthy and
> dangerous obsessions with body parts.

It's called sexual attraction and you wouldn't be here without it. It's millions of years old. If people aren't attracted to body parts then you get no new people.

> Example:
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> Do you get excited by seeing chicken thighs or leg
> of lamb at the meat counter?

No, because I'm not a zoophile.

Is a ewe "commodified" when a ram mates with her? Or a hen with a rooster? Must be capitalism's fault that all these farm animals want to mate with each other.

People have intellectual struggles with all sorts of human experiences. Sexual inclinations are neither good nor bad unless the individual considers them challenges or distractions from living its life in a particular way.

COMMENT: Which is precisely the message implied by the headline you so adamantly objected to.
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But mormondumb needs devils and sex is one of their favorites.

COMMENT: Mormon attitudes about sex reflect centuries of religious culture. Some of it, for example marriage fidelity, and the avoidance of sexual obsessions, is arguably a good thing. Other aspects, for example the taboo against pre-marital sex and gay sex arguably not.
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It looks like they have an unhealthy obsession with sex.

COMMENT: But it was precisely the unhealthy obsession with sex, in the form of addiction to pornography, that the headline you objected to was striking out against. In other words, for you characterizing Mormon sexual attitudes is a no-win situation.

Please stop editing a post after someone has replied to it. That diverts attention from your original comment and may make the reply seem less relevant.

The fact is that your ideas about what a fetish is and what a relevant psychological issue for some people are not related.

Looking at naked bodies may give people pleasure. That activity may have no impact on society at all. Our lives are just as irrelevant in the universe as an atom 13 billion years ago.

Society struggles with all sorts of ideas that are labeled good and bad but individuals should be at peace with their lives and less concerned about what society wants or how some psychologists define things.

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"Newest LDS apostle says porn addicts can kick their habit through professional help and Jesus’ love"

"That headline epitomizes the lame-brained thinking of the superstitious kingdom."

"Their ideology empty and their doctrine is a fraud."

COMMENT: Well, judging from the headline alone -- without reading into it traditional Mormon attitudes about sex -- it is hard to find it objectionable. Assuming that a certain level of preoccupation with pornography can be fairly described as an "addiction," which most psychologists would probably agree is appropriate, there is certainly nothing wrong with recommending "professional help." The addition of Jesus' love is nothing more than invoking religious faith as a component of such recovery, not surprising or even substantively objectionable in a religious context.

In any event, the innocent prescription against pornographic addiction alone hardly amounts to support for your conclusion that this headline "epitomizes lame-brained thinking," or that Mormon ideology is empty and doctrine a fraud. Quite the contrary, it appears on its face to be a rather refreshing revisionist view that it is not sexual attraction per se that is objectionable, but "addiction," and that such addiction is a psychological malady for professionals, rather than just a horrible, damning sin.

When you (and others) don't connect the logical dots of your Mormon criticism, you are often left with little more than empty rhetoric searching for validation from the usually accommodating RfM faithful.

I don't have a problem with mild to moderate pornography. I understand it's gotten a whole lot more intense in recent years, and that could perhaps present a problem. Or, if it interferes with your daily life and responsibilities. Apart from that, who cares?

Porn is almost 180 degrees away from healthy body respect which is one factor of non-sexual nudity - naturism.

Alone or with other like-minded people, nude hiking (free-hiking), skinny dipping & other activities are healthy expressions of life & being being a whole, living human.



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Nice to "see" you BtC!

The problem with your objection, as several posters have pointed out, is that the Mormon stance is not unique to Mormonism and goes back much further than the Victorian era.

You can make your own porn with a stick and a patch of dirt. The parable of the ten virgins could have been about fapping. The oil is a metaphor for craniosacral fluid. Blasting a load is like burning up the oil, it messes up the energetic connection between the levels of the body. The oil will replenish itself, but while it does that you miss out on a part of life you won't get back.

Porn is accepted and even promoted in today's world because it makes people easier to manipulate and control. It's totally blue-pill. They want you asleep.

Step one: invent a disease.

Step two: sell a cure that doesn't really cure anything but makes people feel so defective that they keep paying you over and over because that's what all their friends and family are telling them they have to do.

Did I miss anything?

LOL. Nope, you didn't miss a thing.

Damn..., These guys are fixated on Porn.

Worse than Baptists and dancing.