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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: March 15, 2025 01:05AM

If ‘Made in the USA’ falls into disfavor, so do its products, and that includes the LDS Church.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/15/2025 01:05AM by unconventional.

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: March 15, 2025 01:24AM

Yes, the U.S. has been kicked out of the clubhouse for now. The missionaries are going to have an extra tough slog of it.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: March 15, 2025 03:24PM

The church in Canada was already sucking air. Mexico may well now join them. Not sure about Brazil or Argentina. Sub-saharan Africa may be getting moody toward the US.

Things might be looking up for Mormons in Russia (hello, Moscow temple?), except that the Metropolitan of all the Russias, or whatever the moniker is for the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, sounds emphatically unecumenical.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: March 16, 2025 10:44PM

What if the boss of the Russian Orthodox "church" and the boss of the Eastern Orthodox "church" got into a fight ?

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Posted by: bradley ( )
Date: March 15, 2025 06:09PM

White supremacy gets older with each passing year.

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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: March 16, 2025 12:59AM

After having just spent two months in Tirana, I know that Albania seems to be a fruitful field for the LDS Church.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: March 16, 2025 12:53PM

What makes you say that? After 32 years it has 5 wards and 9 branches for just under 3 million people. That hardly seems like robust growth. I guess it beats Western Europe.

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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 01:19AM

Put it this way, the LDS numbers will never be great there, but the Albanians’ ‘luv’ of all things USA, makes it easy for the missionaries to exist there.

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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 07:04AM

In Albania, if you’re over 50 (perhaps younger), you probably didn’t ever get to learn critical thinking skills.

That’s a gift to LDS missionaries.

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Posted by: slskipper ( )
Date: March 16, 2025 09:08PM

I lived in Oz around 1990. At the bookstore next to the Sydney temple they were selling Tabernacle Choir CDs. One of them was "God Bless America".

I do not kid.

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Posted by: Dave the Atheist ( )
Date: March 16, 2025 10:46PM

That's not a church. THIS is a church !

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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 08:52AM

I sense that the anti ‘Made in the USA’ sentiment will be brutal and long-lasting.

Looking for reasons why that may not be so.

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Posted by: Brother Of Jerry ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 10:58AM

I agree. I expect particularly bad fallout in Canada, where the anger has been described as "incandescent". There are quite a few Mormons there, especially in the western provinces. Their numbers had already dropped pretty dramatically in the 2021 census compared to 2011. 2031 should be really interesting. Only 6 years to go.

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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 11:42AM

Over here in the UK, the anti ‘Made in the USA’ sentiment is growing as well.

The LDS Church is likely in for a rough ride.

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Posted by: Soft Machine ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 01:41PM

Same here in France, except LDS has always had a rough ride in France ;-)

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Posted by: Lot's Wife ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 02:08PM

The "international" phase of the LDS church, meaning its surge in overseas growth, coincided closely with Pax Americana. Without the US dominance over the world during that period, Mormonism would still be nothing more than a regional curiosity.

What is happening now is simply the reverse of that process. When the "host" country destroys its own reputation, the world turns against its various cultural manifestations. There's no way such an American church can survive unscathed.

Soon it won't be just the name "Mormon" that the church is trying to run away from.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/17/2025 03:13PM by Lot's Wife.

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Posted by: unconventional ( )
Date: March 17, 2025 03:07PM

For those wishing for the decline of the LDS Church, they need not wish any longer.

With the precipitous fall from grace of ‘Made in the USA’, the LDS Church is now on an irreversible path of decline, and it’s only a matter of time before it is nothing more than a mere shadow of its former ‘greatness.’

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