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Posted by: bornagainagnostic ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 09:09PM

1) Desire for truth that overcomes fear.

2) Courage to venture into the unknown.

3) Reading. This board seems to be full of 'readers'. I'd say on average, most people don't read much.

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Posted by: m ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 09:26PM

4. All the rewards come in the next life...not this one



"Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that shall say: Come unto me, and for your money you shall be forgiven of your sins." (Mormon 8:32)

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Posted by: honestone ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 09:49PM

It doesn't really say that does it? I am a nevermo.....that is too much to even believe. Sorry if I just didn't get it.

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Posted by: lillium ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 10:10PM

I think they're saying that about other churches, about how evil they will be.



31 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be great pollutions upon the face of the earth; there shall be murders, and robbing, and lying, and deceivings, and whoredoms, and all manner of abominations; when there shall be many who will say, Do this, or do that, and it mattereth not, for the Lord will uphold such at the last day. But wo unto such, for they are in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity. 32 Yea, it shall come in a day when there shall be churches built up that shall say: Come unto me, and for your money you shall be forgiven of your sins.

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Posted by: vasalissasdoll ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 09:33PM

5. Being willing to admit you're wrong.

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Posted by: dthenonreligious ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 09:34PM

A six figure income.

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Posted by: lillium ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 10:09PM

For me it was just 3 - liking to read.

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Posted by: anagrammy ( )
Date: July 25, 2011 11:34PM

Curiosity. Like water, it is under the control of Satan.

Anagrammy

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Posted by: CA girl ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:03AM

Feeling that the truth is more important than anything. More important than what your friends think. More important than a comforting yourself with a fairy tale. More important than your ego so you can admit you are wrong. So important that you have the courage to completely rethink your beliefs, make new friends, break old bonds, set new goals, face unpleasant consequences and shake hands with the unknown and the unknowable. You just can't live a lie because living a lie would be worse than any of the above mentioned difficulties.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/26/2011 12:04AM by CA girl.

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Posted by: Naomi ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 07:45PM

I like that, CA girl...very profound. Can I copy it onto my Facebook?

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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: July 27, 2011 12:40PM


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Posted by: athreehourbore ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:39PM

#1-#3 were HUGE and from what I've read on boards, the most common things except for maybe:

#4: Realizing you are not alone (the only one with doubts, disaffection, etc)


#5: Realizing that people DO leave all the time and go on to be happier and decent human beings

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Posted by: jon1 ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:40PM

Sin and being offended, of course!

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Posted by: ExMormonRon ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:41PM

Women with large breasts. "As a man thinketh, so is he."

Just sayin'...

Ron

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Posted by: Hervey Willets ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:43PM


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Posted by: ExMormonRon ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:56PM

Yep! :)

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Posted by: cl2 (not logged in) ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:50PM

I do read a lot. I was a devout mormon to the point of putting my life and those of my kids on the line for mormonism. It is easy to say to yourself "I'm just not doing enough. I'm not perfect enough, blah, blah, blah."

I lived the gay/straight marriage and, in the end, no matter what other bullshit I'd been told or read or been taught over the years, I KNEW he had done ALL HE COULD and I had done ALL I COULD and they were WRONG. They fucked up our lives. When you finally put 2 and 2 together--you do know deep in your heart. I knew nobody who had left mormonism. I knew inactives. I had been sure of my nonbelief for over a year when my therapist directed me to this board.

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Posted by: Primus ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 12:59PM

Using FARMS and FAIR to strengthen ones testimony.

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Posted by: Outcast ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 01:20PM

A functioning brain mixed with an ounce of courage and a dash of common sense.

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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 01:35PM

Me, it is mostly #1 with a dash of hating being lied to thrown in.

But as far as the youth, it seems like most of the youth that I know including myself at that age, they go where they are accepted. If the church kids are jerks and the jackmos or nevermos are cool and accepting, you've got a very slim chance of that kid staying in church.

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Posted by: Pista ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 02:58PM

As I think about it, my break started with prayer. I felt a lot of doubt and prayed with great faith. The more I prayed and did not receive an answer, I finally came to the conclusion that there was no one answering. That put me on a path of discovery which included a lot of reading and I never looked back. I am an ultimately rational person and could not reconcile faith as a virtue if reality never lined up.

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 06:28PM

Changing your mind about what you are willing to believe by faith and accept.
From then on, it's all about taking your power back, and owing it.

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Posted by: Willie Martin ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 07:50PM

Reading is definitely a HUGE part of it for a lot of people. TBMs aren't deep readers.

It also takes guts. There are a lot of scaredy cat TBMs who don't have the guts to stand up to the Morgbots.

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Posted by: AKA Alma ( )
Date: July 26, 2011 07:52PM

Love and Humility.

Love of truth.
Humility to accept we were wrong.

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Posted by: deconverted2010 ( )
Date: July 27, 2011 12:02PM

A thirst for knowledge
A hunger for meat, when milk is no longer satisfying

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