Married couple where the husband is a creepy manipulative guy who forces his wife to have threesomes. Woman feels sick to her stomach and flees to her home state (Arkansas) to be with her family. In process of divorcing husband, she has the frigging guts to tell her bishop EVERYTHING so she can repent and heal. He says "thank you so much and you definitely won't be excommunicated" because she came forward. NOW the fucking piece of shit bishop tells her "you need to give me the names of everyone involved so I can speak with their bishop." She said, "no, I don't want to rat other people out - they were manipulated too." the bishop says "ok then, I'm going to have to take this to disciplinarian council and they will probably excommunicate you." THEN the mothefucker says " you need to give me their names - don't you care about their souls??"

Ha! What a fucking piece of shit! Can you believe this arrogant fuck bag?! Dude, burn in hell you piece of rotten shit!

Somehow I think when the old guys go home after that court of love they will be spending some alone time in the bathroom.

He probably wants to hear every little detail about what happened too.

I know. The woman is very pretty too. Husband is a piece of shit return missionary "oh baby, I'm going to go to college and be a fucking doctor." She was like "Wow!"

The guy did ONE fucking year at community college and then sat on the couch and did drugs the next 5 years! Ha! What a fucking loser.

Sweet woman. Man, she really got manipulated by this fucking asshole.

Just give the bishop the names of two other of the threesome guys.
Start with the Stake President and close with (current bishop's name).

Explain you will be happy to disclose the same to the local news.

She should just stop speaking to that Bishop. Period.
Any invitation to a disciplinary hearing should be ignored completely.

And it's not just this bishop. All bishops are supposed to get the names of other people involved in the sin and contact their respective bishops.

The more shame, the more control

Says he with no shame!

She is there for counsle for her problems, not other peoples problems.

No respect for anyone.....just nazi style

but seriously, how do you "manipulate" a woman into a threesome? Unless she is seriously psychologically compromised that is. I know if I ever brought such a suggestion up to my wife I'd be missing a nutsack.

Men who are abusive and controlling can easily manipulate their women into a threesome. They can often manipulate their women to do a lot of things because the woman knows the alternative is more violence.

Yes, these women are psychologically compromised.

Or the alternative is no attention/love at all. When you're really screwed up, a kiss with a fist is better than none. A threesome you're uncomfortable with is better than having all of his affections taken away from you because you're no longer good enough.

Why, yes, I've been in a relationship like that, why do you ask? ;>)

> Men who are abusive and controlling can easily
> manipulate their women into a threesome. They can
> often manipulate their women to do a lot of things
> because the woman knows the alternative is more
> violence.
>
> Yes, these women are psychologically compromised.

The mormon church doesn't have a monopoly on abusive (physical and/or emotional) control freaks. I was married to one long ago (thankfully, he's been in Columbia for the last 10+ years trying to find the "perfect woman"... you know... meek, submissive, will do anything he tells her to do, never wants to move to the US, and that will put up with a 50-year old slug).

Indeed, the woman is most assuredly psychologically compromised, and that bishop is a complete and utter asshat.

Thats what this guy really wants to know!

"but seriously, how do you "manipulate" a woman into a threesome? Unless she is seriously psychologically compromised that is."

These are Mormon women we are talking about. I don't know any that weren't seriously psychologically compromised. : p

Threats--If you don't tell me this will be discussed by the committee.

Your salvation depends on outing others involved.

It's abuse all over again.

Take notes if you don't see how easily manipulation can be done.

The are men who do the same type of manipulation to get unwilling women to do pornography. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Lovelace

Same way that pimps force women into tricking. Abusive people don't always have to use violence to force people into undesired situations. They manipulate these women's desire for respect and love.

It's the typical return missionary brainwash you promise you the moon manipulative Jedi mind trick.

Most missionaries I've met are arrogant prideful 19 year old douche bag fuck face idiots. "I'm going to Law School." "I'm going to be a doctor." Ha, right you fucking Moron! You're going to smoke pot and freak out once you get your fucking dick wet you fucking piece of shit kid.

Why would anyone subject themselves to that guilt and shame?

People don't know that professional help would actually feel good, be constructive an private.

They have been taught to be afraid to seek real mental health professional because the Church wants them ignorant of the facts and uneducated about really good mental health, if people actually got healthy, the Church would be put out of their lives b/c people would begin to see how dishonest, manipulative and exploitive the Church really is.

Isn't that how we all got out?

They don't want me back Wrote:
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> People don't know that professional help would
> actually feel good, be constructive an private.
>
> They have been taught to be afraid to seek real
> mental health professional because the Church
> wants them ignorant of the facts and uneducated
> about really good mental health, if people
> actually got healthy, the Church would be put out
> of their lives b/c people would begin to see how
> dishonest, manipulative and exploitive the Church
> really is.
>
> Isn't that how we all got out?

That's true, one reason why I'm out is that I went to a real mental health professional, and one that wasn't connected to TSCC so whatever I said stayed in the office.

Its too bad she expected fair treatment from the BP. If she really still felt a need to tell the BP everything in order to move on it would have been nice if she had simply said she didn't know who the other people were or what thier names were. Of course hindsight is 20/20.

Who knows, baybe it will turn out to be a blessing in disguise. By leaving her piece of shit husband she demonstrated the will to get away from one time trusted entities who misuse and abuse her. Maybe she will realize that the BP and the Church are misusing and abusing her and look for and find a better place.

when turned 18, i confessed a number of indescretions to him in a very very uncomfortable bishop interview.

he demanded the names of all those involved.

i refused.

he had me disfellowshipped.

So, even a tragic, heartfelt confession gets twisted into a pyramid scheme.

The bishop should have been patient with her allowing her time to think about giving up the names while she was healing. She probably would have come to that conclusion over time. She was undoubtedly scared and confused (that is how she got into that mess). The bishop could have gone to the husband and harrassed his sorry ass instead.

I got involved with a divorced lady in my ward. We started going out, and, before too long, wound up happily in the rack a couple of times or so. I was suddenly overcome with good ol' inbred LDS guilt, and went to the bishop to fess up.

He told me I had to name the other party, which I refused. I felt that if she needed to repent, then she would talk to him about it, not me. (Plus, it wouldn't have been too hard to figure out who it was, since we'd been sitting together in sacrament meeting for a couple of months).

Anyway, he pulled the same stuff on me. If I wasn't willing to name names, then I wasn't truly repentant, and would be subject to severe church discipline. I never fessed up, eventually was placed on probation by the stake president, and switched wards, (Since I told the stake president, a good guy, that I didn't think I could be trusted to be in the same room with this bishop - I truly hated him - they let me move to the second ward.)

In retrospect, what happened was a good thing. It began the slow but steady process of opening my eyes as to how the church and "Inspired" leaders really worked.

PS - The bishop was eventually excommunicated for cheating on his wife. Karma can be good...



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She should have said:

"Okay. Your wife, your brother-in-law, your Aunt Millie, and the Stake President."

Oh, and "Fuck you."

Ron