transfer to another unversity? What was your major? I am finishing up my associates through their online program but I plan on finihing my Bachelor's with another university because I don't to remain active until I get my BA. Am I stuck there????

Probably some of his credits were transferable but it is common that colleges won't accept all credits -- even from secular schools.

Thanks! So I'm gonna have to stay active for another 2 years so that I can finish my degree??? Oh I hope not!

Can't you check and see which schools, if any, have articulation agreements with BYU-I, and thus will accept your AA? Otherwise, just transfer and suck up the credits they won't accept. It will cost you more time and money though. OR cut your losses now before you take more classes that might not transfer, and transfer to a state or different online AA program, which will be more likely to transfer and/or have more articulation agreement partners. You'll still probably have difficulty transferring some classes though.

by the same organization. Sometimes it's because there aren't sufficient equivalencies between courses on a departmental basis. Sometimes it's because courses from a previous university aren't part of the degree for the current university (so they just count as electives).

You can check to see if BYU-I has transfer agreements with other schools and that can be helpful in planning (of course, not so much if it's all with LDS schools).

Also, if you transfer and some of your credits are rejected, there are usually avenues to petition for particular classes to count as prereqs, etc. I worked in a philosophy department for six years, and this was not uncommon. Students would transfer in, having completed quite a bit of work already, and some of their credits would be rejected at the admissions level. The department chair had discretion to review past work and make a determination over whether it really was equivalent.

I did get my Associates. Generals/psychology. I'm from California and I wanted to go to a Cal State, but it didn't transfer at all. I would have had about 10 generals knocked out and the rest electives. A few schools in the region transfer decently. University of Montana looked like a good school, but to transfer there they dissected it and broke it down and it didn't transfer well. Too many electives and not enough generals. Same deal with University of Idaho and Washington. U of U was the only school where it transferred almost entirely, 52 credits knocked out all the generals and the 8 religion credits transfer as credits.

I wouldn't say your stuck at BYUI or U of U, but the U was the best option I could find.

What year did you attend BYU-I? You too angelina.

I am doing their online program. I live on the East Coast. I wonder if non-members can still be part of the program....

I was required to attend church at least once a month in order to keep my ecclesiastic endorsement active. It was torture.

Did you have to take the sacrament and be worthy? What did you tell the leadership of the ward? So glad someone else went through the same dilemma because I have been wondering for a while! THANK YOU!

Well, when I decided I no longer wanted to be associated with the church, the first thing I did was go to my bishop and tell him that I lost my testimony. I felt like he needed to be aware of my situation. My thought process in this was "If I show honesty and sincerity, he will be more open to view my situation in a positive light." This way, I was putting up a front that I was not anti-Mormon and thus "sympathizing" with apostates. In my interview with him, I had to assure him that I was not planning on leaving the church, but rather that my inactivity was due to disagreements or doubts about the church.

Once you let them know that you are AGAINST the church and actually have made plans to cancel your covenants, you are not fit to attend the school. This is ironic, because non-members can go to the school and not submit themselves to the covenants, but if you've already been a member I guess they "expect more of you".

So once I kind of won over his trust, I talked to him about my ecclesiastic endorsement. I was already a senior at the time (my junior year I had lost my testimony but I was very secretive about it) and I knew that I only needed to hold out a little bit longer before I graduated and was free.

He told me that attending once a month was enough to keep the ecclesiastic endorsement active, but to stop attending church would negate that endorsement and I'd be evicted from school. So I forced myself to attend church one Sunday a month. People for the most part avoided me; my ward was especially materialistic. It was the ward that was notorious for excommunicating a bunch of students several years ago because they had participated in an orgy.

Well, was it an orgy? I think they had basically established some sort of code that, if you put such and such in the window, it means "open for business." Anyways, big scandal.

I don't know if it really happened though, one of those things that gets passed around. Anyways, the point it, those people were all just douche bag guys and diva girls who were 18-19 immature brats and cared more about the social institution of the church and lying about their sins then taking it seriously. This made me especially bitter, since I was the complete opposite - took the church and my covenants seriously and what was my prize? Right.

So, the strange thing is, you're not allowed to live alone at BYU-I. They want to make sure you're not watching porn and masturbating (wouldn't want to become gay!) so you're required to have at least one roommate. I had a roommate, but he was evicted because he couldn't manage a decent GPA, so for most of the remainder of my time, I was alone in that tiny, drab apartment. So with no friends, and no roommates, stuck in a tiny Mormon town, it was a very lonely, frustrating time. But I had preferred to be alone then stuck with some Mormon douche bag.

Finally, at some random point, a guy just walked in the door and said "Hey I'm your new roommate" and started moving shit into the apartment. No warning, no phone call, nothing. He just unlocked the door without knocking and moved in.

He was obnoxious, to say the least. Took several showers a day (probably jerking off), listened to annoying alternative rock music early in the morning while I was trying to sleep, used words like "dude" and "bomb" way too much. Stereotypical douche.

We did our best to ignore each other in that tiny apartment. It was awkard to the extreme. He skipped church often and went playing around with his buddies. It angered me that Mormons in the ward probably thought of ME as hypocritical, when all I could see was their own double-faced behavior.

Anyways, I graduated in late December of 2009. Since I had waited until late November to attend church, I didn't go in December (he said I needed to go to all three meetings. Forgot to mention that but I did NOT need to take Sacrament. Sometimes I did just to spite the leaders lol). I didn't go to graduation. I had nothing to celebrate. To this day, my degree has not served me in any capacity, and my Mormon friends that I made from that 3 and a half year tenure are things of the past. I had great memories when I was active and blissfully ignorant. But the moment I started to discover the truth, it was all downhill. Now I try to forget, but I have recurring nightmares where I go back to Rexburg and re-enroll as a student at the SAME apartment complexes as I did the first time around (my ex-girlfriend is always there too). I must have had that dream at least 6 or 7 times by now. Meh.

As far as worthiness, they have a filter that blocks out porn websites. I decided that I was going to say "fuck you" to them and I kept finding new ways to look at porn. They monitor your website usage, so the websites would always be blocked at some future point. I kept fighting it though lol. And being alone all that time, I was free to jerk off whenever I wanted. It was all I had, lol.



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If it's the BYU-I Pathway Program, then non-members can't be a part of it. I tried...but I'm SO glad that non-members weren't allowed, because I got as many credits in 12 weeks than they get in 1 year of crappy religious classes (the math and english classes were religious even!).

The strange thing is, they ask your religion on the application, and it looks like it's okay to say that you're not a mormon...but they don't accept ANY non-mormons, so I'm not sure what the point is.

I was part of the Pathway program but I am done and I'm just doing their regular online studies, which I have really liked.

You are never stuck anywhere, there are lots of community colleges other than BYU-I that have online programs..see what is available in your area. I started at BYU-I (when it was Ricks years ago) but finished my Associates at a nearby community college more recently..as far as transferring goes everyone here is correct depends on accreditation of the school. Look at the school you want to go to, then look at your classes and meet with an advisor, it may be worth transferring now rather than wasting your time. Those religion courses especially, could be a total loss. None of those did anything for me at either school--the community college or the university I am in now. My math, english and economics courses transferred over, that is all..I felt like I was starting completely over. My education at the local community college was far better than anything I would have gotten at BYU-I though and I am really glad I finished. On to the university now and all of my generals are covered by those courses I took at the community college.

My .02 for what it's worth, cut your losses now and find a local school instead that is associated with the university you want to attend, lots of schools do online classes now and the community college for me was just as inexpensive at BYU-I. Take credits you know will transfer rather than guessing.

Utah State has lots of online classes.

why stay with a school that tells everyone you're Mormon (they won't know you're not)...