btw, why the hell must they play hymns in the background?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93XqR6IOcAw&feature=relmfu

I bet that is how they spin it.

What an answer. They're truly clueless.

Because it is the MORG... Does that answer why the funeral dirge background music?

Work on the men...Bah...I threw up a little in my mouth with what he was saying...and the Funeral Dirge in the background didn't help either... I couldn't watch it all the way through and give them another full view...

Sounds like their trying to make a case for bringing back polygamy.

Yep, not enough men for the women. Just like olden times in Deseret when polygamy was implemented purportedly to take care of all the women/children without husbands. It's just a matter of time. Maybe all the mormons will move out of Utah and go to Mexico for legality reasons. Keep your fingers crossed.

If they were to do that they would loose the women in droves! Read most of the posts on the mommy board when polygamy comes up and they are glad they don't have to live it. Sure their would be some who were ok with it if it let them marry a powerful mormon, but the majority I think would leave the church if this happened.

I am so glad that I didnt end up having any kids that were born into TSCC!

It's also sad that he basically tells the young women to not get married if they don't meet a worthy lds man. Don't you think one can be a good Mormon regardless if they are sealed in this life or the next?

I noticed that too.

Interestingly, he never mentioned that the problem might be that many young men simply do not want to marry a Mormon woman. And why would they?

"It's also sad that he basically tells the young women to not get married if they don't meet a worthy lds man."

Is the ONLY worthy LDS man one who has gone on a mission?

I agree so sad

My experience back in the 60's at Ricks would indicate a big YES to that question...doubt of it's changed much...

that Hoax is saying it Out Loud speaks VOLUMES, doesn't it?


Staples outta distribute a "PANIC" button instead of "EASY"!

Thought god already solved this problem before with polygamy...

With many states now allowing gay marriages, they are preparing in case some states start allowing polygamy between consenting adults.

"Here we are in the latter days, and there is a shortage of eligible men to marry all the faithful LDS women. Heavenly father in his wisdom has made polygamy legal to take care of this."

I know a few women who waited and waited for the right mormon man to come along. In the meantime, missing many opportunities for some possibly good husbands. Now that they are older they feel like they've been misled. They're resentful for. They really believed mr. right would show up someday. Their PB say so.

When women wake up and realize what's going on, they will start marrying outside of the church. Once they do that, the church is in big trouble. No women, no kids. Nobody left but a bunch of old couples to run the show. I think it's already started.

That exactly describes me, although I finally married in my late 20s. I truly feel for some of my friends who made it to their 50s and 60s without marrying because they are wonderful women, wanted very much to marry and have children and wouldn't consider marrying outside the temple. It makes me so sad what these women gave up and for what? A lying Mormon church. They could have had happy marriages with non-LDS guys because they are all terrific people. But they fell for the church's teachings and here they are, alone.

I hope these women clue into a larger dating pool and I hope Mormon guys quit dating some of the immature brats that pass as Molly Mormons for a woman who really suits them. I see way too many of my friends who are completely unsuited for each other and starving emotionally because of it but are trying desperately to make the best of the situation because they think it's God's will.

Mormon women must marry worthy priesthood holders to enter the celestial kingdom. My friend insisted on this and she painted herself into a corner. She eventually found someone but her marriage ended up being one of necessity (she had to settle), and she's had a hard life as a result -- a life that most women would not choose. It's a stupid way to decide on a husband, but is there anything that makes sense in Mormonism?

One other point -- Mormons are always bragging about their numbers -- this video is an admission that the reality is far removed from their wishful fantasy.

I know a family who "lost" 2 men(sons)RM's. And I believe the youngest is not far behind. All 3 kids.

It's a crap product, and instead of becoming a more charitable and fun, they are more controlling and selfish.

Yes, Dallin, tell us, "what's the best thing you can do for frustrated single woman."

Wow, talk about a loaded.

Not his answer?

And should I die, before that video's through...
Happy day, all is well.

For starters, I remember being warned in the 1980s that there would be so many worthy women joining the church that there would be a shortage of men! However, due to my own personal preferences and circumstances in life beyond my control, I didn't marry a TSCC-member man until I was in my mid 30s and only had two kids. That's worked out great so far even though he's more TBM than I am, but he knows of my disaffection and lelts me determine my own level of activity, etc. Thanks, SusieQ, for being able to do this too and being an example to me.

Of course, TSCC is going to do the porn spin, but hell, with the way they screw up with regular human sexuality, especially laying the damn guilt trips on the men about masturbation and affecting their self-esteem and so forth, yes, no wonder men are leaving in record numbers. I've gone so far as to tell my own bishop to NOT ask my DS any masturbation-related questions during worthiness interviews, that DH and I do the sexuality teaching at home. If DS masturbates, so be it. I'm teaching him that it's normal and if he does it, just clean up using a towel. Doesn't bother me.

Add to that the THREE guilt-tripping bulls.hit talks in the April 2011 conference which were practically shoveling marriage down the men's throats:

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2011/04/desire?lang=eng (by HOAX himself)

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2011/04/priesthood-power?lang=eng (Yea, I love Tomato Monsoon's s.hit about getting married even if you can't afford it!)

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2011/04/the-eternal-blessings-of-marriage?lang=eng (NAPTIME! with Mr. Snoozefest Scott)

and topping it off in October 2011 with really shoving baby making:

http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2011/10/children?lang=eng

Yes, these men are getting fed up and sick and tired of having this impractical advice shoved down their throats!!!

These damn GA idiots can't seem to get it through their brains that this is the TWENTY-FIRST CENTURY. It's not like 1950, when people did marry young and Utards gladly popped out babies galore. OMFG the breed 'em young mentality I encountered when I transferred to YBU for my last two years of college was one hell of an eye opener. I lived in Deseret Towers and there was a contest between four women on my floor to see who could be the first to get engaged. It took the damn winner ONLY A MONTH! OMFG!!!! No wonder I became INACTIVE while I was out at YBU. What a relief it was when I drove away, got across the state border, got out of my car and yelled, "Hooray! I'm back in reality!"

Biology plays a part in the delayed marriage trend, as well as cultural factors (the human brain isn't fully developed until you are 25, and marrying before then isn't a good practical idea, IMHO:

http://www.academic.marist.edu/mwwatch/fall05/science1.htm

This jackass mentality totally goes against scientific data and REALITY!

Yea no wonder the men are leaving in droves. Hoax sure doesn't seem to have any compassion for the frustrated single women either. I don't blame them for marrying nonmembers either.



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Yep, just took a look at those articles...TSCC poured their usual 2 cups of salt in the wound for all the childless couples, with an extra zip for all the barren ladies! Nothings changed!

Ohhhh, I get it. The ga's are available for administrative questions, just not doctrine questions.

What a clueless old man. I hope DW doesn't listen to such bullshit messages.

Too bad they won't listen to those who leave. Oh, if only he could know my story. But he's just going to go with his biased, ill-informed instincts and blame it on the porn.

They are really admitting the end of the TSCC.

Recruiting has come to a standstill due to the internet. The only real hope of sustaining and growing membership is through the LDS breeding program which not only requires men in this age group- but also

needs them to be return missionaries who are fully invested and indoctrinated to be loyal to the church, as their offspring will be the next generation in the cult.

This thing really is a house of cards being run by people too old to undertand what is happening. I think this has real implications on why business interests are being shifted toward a more diverse investments- such as a mall instead of empty temples.

Oaks is admitting their target market is shrinking drastically.

As implausible as the Mormon gospel is... it's a Wonder, but they do manage to make it appear Worse with lame excuses...


Oh, the Irony of it all...

The ponzi scheme is unraveling.

Mr. Right Now. Seriously, I hope single women are still not getting asked, "Why aren't you married yet?" I use to give the questioner the why-are-you-so-stupid look. If women don't want polygamy, how about the priesthood?

I wonder how many young men want to go on a mission, come back, finish school while being married with babies? The population in general is getting married at a later age, and I think more couples are living together without being married.

The other problem -- how do men move up in the church if they really don't believe in it?

Kinda seems like a fitting end dont ya think? I mean just like when the Provo Tabernacle went down in flames a few years back? Karma may be late, but it got dished out! And how!

The GAs are available 24/7 for questions that affect their cashflow, not questions that affect your salvation. That tells you something right there.

Is it re the 10%--he's your man.

Is it about bringing in more people, ask here.

Is it about past history and prophecies proven untrue? Crickets.


Being a student of religious folklore, I have an idea of how this lack of eligible husbands will be handled by the aging waiting virgins. There will develop an underground movement whereby faithful LDS RM's will donate sperm (which they collect using condoms during sleeping nocturnal emissions....heh heh). This way, the faithful women can bear children of faithful men and wait to be united with them in plural marriage after this life is over.

There will develop a cult of Spiritual Wives which will preach faithfulness in this life, but choosing these worthy women to be your sister wives in the hereafter. This will be condemned as a "false church" by the prophet, which is the only pertinent thing he will say that could not have been said in the 1950's.

The Spiritual Wife movement will be lead by Mormon feminists. They will use social media instead of having a leader who could be excommunicated. This will cause the oligarchy to piss themselves, mouthing "twitter?" and "Faceblock? What's that?" and conclude that whatever it is, it is of the devil.

Then someone will point out that many of these women have children BIC and are paying full tithing--they are not dependent on the church in any way.

The ancient ones will say, "It isn't seemly." and "It isn't the gospel. Children need the priesthood in their home."

You can see where THAT leads.

Fun times!

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Not having enough worthy priesthood holders in the church could be the thing that pushes them to extend the priesthood to women!

Not having enough tithing cashflow could change their minds about women working outside the home.

I can see this happening before they would allow gay marriage.

I think it's more likely that the age of marriage, at least for women, drops substantially on this news. Marriage in mormondom is like a game of musical chairs... The game will just got more competitive.

McConkie says "You're a servant of the Lord. Work it out in your mind and assign them; and they're assigned by the Lord."


Admitting that the Lord doesn't make the decisions, men do. What a great hall pass the Lord has given them! Do what you want and then the Lord ratifies it.

I, James, am a servant of God (self appointed, which has as much authority as theirs). I am going to make a sandwich. The Lord has assigned me to eat this sandwich.