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Posted by: wscarince ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 08:50PM

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Posted by: scarecrowfromoz ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 10:30PM

Here are my notes from the show. Mostly good for non-Mormons to see, but a few inaccuracies. The show is titled "10 Things You Don't Know About" (and this episode was "The Mormons."

The 10 things talked about were:

1. Joseph Smith was a treasure hunter. (78%?? polled didn't know.)
(Showed the face in a hat.) (The narrator incorrectly said there was no proof of his conviction.)

2. Book of Mormon says American Indians were Jewish. (90% polled didn't know)
Mentioned God punished by darkening their skin.

3. Masonic rites inspired Mormon rites. (78% polled didn't know.)

4. Mormons were targets of genocide. (85% unaware of Haun's Mill.)
(Garden of Eden in Missouri. Mentions Hauns Mill.- 18 killed. The show makes it sound like the Mormons were innocent and did nothing to provoke nonMormons.

5. Joseph Smith's wife threatened to take multiple husbands in response to polygamy order.

6. Mormons agree to leave the U.S. (95% didn't know)
(Went to now UT) Brigham Young was "a King." BY was a racist and UT a slave territory.

7. U.S. troops deployed to subdue Mormons. (82% didn't know)

8. Mormons massacred 120 innocent pioneers (81% didn't know)
(Mountain Meadows Massacre)

9. Mormons owned brothels in SLC.(81% didn't know).
(Obviously only used by non-Mormons. Tried to trap non-Mormon officials so they could get away with polygamy)

10. Mormon banks financed Mob-owned hotels and casinos in Las Vegas. (88% didn't know)
(Bank of Las Vegas.) (Mormon church made millions in tithing.)

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Posted by: rwg ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 10:34PM

It repeats at 11 PM Pacific and is nearly a perfect account squeezed into a half-hour TV time; the only imperfection, as mentioned by Scarecrow concerns the treasure hunting. One wonders if the fact that so many people now know it will affect anything significantly except to cut down on conversions?

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Posted by: scarecrowfromoz ( )
Date: March 26, 2012 10:52PM

Another inaccuracy is that they repeated the Mormon claim of being the fastest growing church.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: March 27, 2012 03:15AM

At least they got it right that there was a debate whether Brigham Young ordered the massacre or not...

But they put Paiute Indians in the first attack, and there were likely very few of them at that point...

And in discussing the Mormon's "persecution" they mentioned Haun's Mill, but that was all; no mention of why that sort of violence was provoked. They also repeated the crap--which George A. Smith originated--about the Arkansas emigrants "boasting of having the gun that killed Joseph Smith."

Finally, Mormon revisionist historians are still clinging to the claim there were Missouri residents in the doomed wagon train...

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Posted by: Al "Ace" Riddell ( )
Date: March 31, 2012 04:58PM

Anyone who opines that Young had nothing to do with the MMM is shoveling you a bare-faced lie, and thinks you are as stOOpid as they are. What's that C o m a n d m e n t about bearing false witness again? If someone tries to lather you up with that line of ignorant baloney in the future: Young was the head of the Mormon "church" for 33-odd years. Can anyone give a single o t h e r example of a time when Young was so totally out-of-the-loop, so betrayed by each and every one of his trusted advisors/snitches/sources, so abandoned, ignored, dishonored, and so clueless? Remember that we're talking about the most heinous peace-time atrocity in the history of this country. How was his flock so wall-to-celing full of people who could/would, upon call, betray him like that, and be a part of the coldest cold of cold-blooded slaughters? Why did he never utter a single word of criticism/damnation/censure, or even righteous indignation for twenty years – until just before the Hammer of Justice was poised to nail his coffin shut?

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