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Posted by: angelina5 ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 09:53AM

Is everyone versed on this???? WHAT ELSE do I not know about the LDS Church?!!

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 09:55AM

You know about the thing with the Chickens...right...?

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Posted by: angelina5 ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 09:58AM

Now you're just being downright silly.

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Posted by: anonymous ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:18AM

Keep researching, they've lied, omitted information, about pretty much everything.

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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:40AM

Another of the murders under this dispensation, which Judge Cradlebaugh mentioned as "peculiarly and shockingly prominent," was that of the Aikin party, in the spring of 1857. This party, consisting of six men, started east from San Francisco in May, 1857, and, falling in with a Mormon train, joined them for protection against the Indians. "When they got to a safer neighborhood, the Californians pushed on ahead. Arriving in Kayesville, twenty-five miles north of Salt Lake City, they were at once arrested as federal spies, and their animals (they had an outfit worth in all, about $25,000) were put into the public corral. When their Mormon fellow-travellers arrived, they scouted the idea that the men even knew of an impending "war," and the party were told that they would be sent out of the territory. But before they started, a council, held at the call of a Bishop in Salt Lake City, decided on their death.

Four of the party were attacked in camp by their escort while asleep; two were killed at once, and two who escaped temporarily were shot while, as they supposed, being escorted back to Salt Lake City. The two others were attacked by O. P. Rockwell and some associates near the city; one was killed outright, and the other escaped, wounded, and was shot the next day while under the escort of "Bill" Hickman, and, according to the latter, by Young's order. *


* Brigham's "Destroying Angel," p. 128

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,42026,42210#msg-42210

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Also here:

http://exmormon.org/d6/drupal/bloodatn

"And if the Gentiles wish to see a few tricks, we have 'Mormons' that can perform them. We have the meanest devils on the earth in our midst, and we intend to keep them, for we have use for them; and if the Devil does not look sharp, we will cheat him out of them at the last, for they will reform and go to heaven with us." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, page 176)

Orrin Porter Rockwell was certainly one of Brigham Young's "meanest devils." Rockwell, who had served as a bodyguard for Joseph Smith, did not hesitate to shed blood.... Bill Hickman was another ruthless man who killed many people. In his book Brigham's Destroying Angel, Hickman confessed that he had committed murders for the church.

In 1858, an extremely grotesque double murder was committed. Henry Jones and his mother were both put to death. These murders were obviously the direct result of Brigham Young's doctrine of "blood atonement." Two months before Henry Jones was actually murdered, he was viciously attacked. Hosea Stout, a very dedicated Mormon defender, wrote the following regarding the first attack on Jones:

"Saturday 27 Feb 1858. This evening several persons disguised as Indians entered Henry Jones' house and dragged him out of bed with a whore and castrated him by a square & close amputation." (On the Mormon Frontier; The Diary of Hosea Stout, Vol. 2, page 653)

One would think that this would have ended the vendetta against Jones. Unfortunately, this was not the case. On April 19, 1859, the newspaper Valley Tan printed an affidavit by Nathaniel Case which contained a statement implicating a bishop and other Mormons who lived in Payson:

"Nathaniel Case being sworn, says: that he has resided in the Territory of Utah since the year 1850; lived with Bishop Hancock (Charles Hancock) in the town of Payson, at the time Henry Jones and his mother were murdered... The night prior to the murder a secret council meeting was held in the upper room of Bishop Hancock's house; saw Charles Hancock, George W. Hancock, Daniel Rawson, James Bracken, George Patten and Price Nelson go into that meeting that night.... About 8 o'clock in the evening of the murder the company gathered at Bishop Hancock's... They said they were going to guard a corral where Henry Jones was going to come that night and steal horses; they had guns.

"I had a good mini rifle and Bishop Hancock wanted to borrow it; I refused to lend it to him. The above persons all went away together... Next morning I heard that Henry Jones and his mother had been killed. I wnet [sic] down to the dug-out where they lived... The old woman was laying on the ground in the dugout on a little straw, in the clothes in which she was killed. She had a bullet hole through her head... In about 15 or 20 minutes Henry Jones was brought there and laid by her side; they then threw some old bed clothes over them and an old feather bed and then pulled the dug-out on top of them....

"The next Sunday after the murder, in a church meeting in Payson, Charles Hancock, the bishop, said, as to the killing of Jones and his mother he cared nothing about it, and it would have been done in daylight if circumstances would have permitted it.-This was said from the stand; there were 150 or 200 persons present. He gave no reason for killing them. And further saith not. Nathaniel Case.

"Sworn to and signed before me this 9th day of April, 1859.

John Cradlebaugh, Judge 2nd Judicial District."

Those who murdered Henry Jones and his mother may have remembered President Brigham Young's sermon which was delivered just two years prior to these murders: "Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; under such circumstances. I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 3, page 247)

In his book, The Mormon hierarchy: Extensions of Power, Vol. 2, pages 241-261, Dr. Quinn presented compelling evidence showing that "blood atonement" was endorsed by church leaders and actually practiced by the Mormon people. Quinn gave the names of a number of violent men who served as "enforcers" for Brigham Young. In addition Quinn wrote:

"During this period Brigham Young and other Mormon leaders also repeatedly preached about specific sins for which it was necessary to shed the blood of men and women. Blood-atonement sins included adultery, apostasy, 'covenant breaking,' counterfeiting, 'many men who left this Church,' murder, not being 'heartily on the Lord's side,' profaning 'the name of the Lord,' sexual intercourse between a 'white' person and an African-American, stealing, and telling lies....

"Some LDS historians have claimed that blood-atonement sermons were simply Brigham Young's use of 'rhetorical devices designed to frighten wayward individuals into conformity with Latter-day Saint principles' and to bluff anti-Mormons. Writers often describe these sermons as limited to the religious enthusiasm and frenzy of the Utah Reformation up to 1857. The first problem with such explanations is that official LDS sources show that as early as 1843 Joseph Smith and his counselor Sidney Rigdon advocated decapitation or throat-cutting as punishment for various crimes and sins.

"Moreover, a decade before Utah's reformation, Brigham Young's private instructions show that he fully expected his trusted associates to kill various persons for violating religious obligations. The LDS church's official history still quotes Young's words to 'the brethren' in February 1846: 'I should be perfectly willing to see thieves have their throats cut.' The following December he instructed bishops, 'when a man is found to be a thief, he will be a thief no longer, cut his throat, & thro' him in the River,' and Young did not instruct them to ask his permission. A week later the church president explained to a Winter Quarters meeting that cutting off the heads of repeated sinners 'is the law of God & it shall be executed...' A rephrase of Young's words later appeared in Hosea Stout's reference to a specific sinner, 'to cut him off-behind the ears-according to the law of God in such cases.'...

"When informed that a black Mormon in Massachusetts had married a white woman, Brigham Young told the apostles in December 1847 that he would have both of them killed 'if they were far away from the Gentiles.'"(The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power, Vol. 2, pages 246-247)

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Posted by: angelina5 ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 11:15AM

WOW JoD thank you!!!! Do you keep all your info filed somewhere??? I need to keep everything I am learning about the Church and organize it for easy access.

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Posted by: auntsukey ( )
Date: January 04, 2017 08:41PM


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Posted by: Kelsoto ( )
Date: January 03, 2017 06:04PM

Porter Rockwell did kill but if you do know about the mountain meadow masecer, Good people have sckeletons in there closet to.

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:23AM

You know about the Strengthening Church Members Committee?

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Posted by: angelina5 ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:36AM

I have heard about it recently but it doesn't seem that damning to me.

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:39AM

1. It exists and operates today, right now.

"2. It monitors members who it perceives as not towing the line to the extent their behaviour may affect others.

"3. It is secretive and shadowy.

"4. It's activities are such that senior Church leaders are uncomfortable talking about it and would be, initially, prepared to lie about it's existence and purpose.

"We can also surmise that:

"5. Tithing pays the wages of the people working full time for the Committee.

"6. The Committee actively monitors online forums such as this one.

"7. People like Grant Palmer and Michael Quinn have been victims of this Committee."

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Posted by: angelina5 ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:40AM

Who reports the names of dangerous memers to that committee? Bishops?
I guess I better submit my letter of resignation before I give them the pleasure of excommunicating me for apostasy.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/04/2012 10:43AM by angelina5.

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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:45AM

No, it's the other way round.

The Committee monitors activity and reports it back to Bishops and Stake Presidents so they can deal with it.

There are some high profile cases where members of the FP have orchestrated disciplinary action against members - research the 'September Six' who were all victims of this committee's activity.

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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 10:47AM

There can be no doubt that the Mormons did take the Aiken party as prisoners and murdered them as related by J. H. Beadle and Bill Hickman. Under the date of Nov. 3, 1857, Hosea Stout recorded the following in his diary: "Cal mail came and six cal prisoners taken at Box Elder supposed spies" (On The Mormon Frontier, The Diary of Hosea Stout, vol. 2, p. 644). On Nov. 9, 1857, Hosea Stout recorded that he himself was "guarding the prisoners from Cal." Finally, on Nov. 20, 1857, Stout made this very revealing entry in his diary:

"O. P. Rockwell with 3 or four others started with 4 of the prisoners, which we had been guarding for some days, South to escort them through the settlements to Cal via South route The other two are going to be permitted to go at large and remain till spring and the guard dismissed." (Ibid., p. 645).

Mormon writer Harold Schindler has done an excellent job of compiling the evidence concerning the Aiken massacre. His research leads to the unmistakable conclusion that Rockwell was involved in the bloody deed (see Orrin Porter Rockwell: Man of God, Son of Thunder, 1966, pp. 268-279).

Less than two years after the Aiken massacre, U. S. Marshall P. K. Dotson held a warrant for Orrin Porter Rockwell's arrest. Dotson found it impossible to make the arrest, and Rockwell retained his freedom for twenty years. He was in full fellowship with the Mormon Church during this period, and on June 1, 1873, he was called on a mission to Grass Valley (Ibid., p. 356). Finally, on Sept. 29, 1877, Rockwell was arrested for his part in the Aiken massacre. He was 64 years old at the time. On June 9, 1878, Orrin Porter Rockwell died, and therefore he did not have to face a trial which could have been very embarrassing for the Mormon Church.

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Posted by: WiserWomanNow ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 11:35AM

(Not to be confused with a novel entitled “The 19th Wife” by a different author.)

Ann never wanted to be one of Brigham Young's wives, but was finally coerced into it because she knew he would ruin her beloved brother's business if she didn't.

Ann ended up leaving Brigham and with incredible courage for that time, she delivered lectures throughout the US to expose him and expose Mormonism and its polygamy. Her book covers many other Mormon topics as well, including Mountain Meadows Massacre and Brigham's hit man Porter Rockwell.

While there are many good books out there about Mormonism, start with this one. Your view of Mormonism will never be the same!

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: April 04, 2012 05:08PM

I think this one is the most credible.

http://signaturebooks.com/2010/02/reminiscences-of-early-utah/

The late Harold Schindler was a family friend and wrote the definitive biography of Orrin Porter Rockwell. He was a faithful member to the end, and he pinned the Aiken murders on Rockwell.

http://www.amazon.com/Orrin-Porter-Rockwell-Man-Thunder/dp/087480440X

And since JoD has posted some links to his past material (all of it uniformly excellent and well-researched), here's one of mine I've been flogging the trolls with over on a few other sites.

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,5317

This one details how the church stooges, unable to confront the discrepancies in it history, have routinely smeared and vilified undeserving journalists and others, accusing them of having an "anti-Mormon" agenda.

And a Cabbie note to JoD: I have, by dint of sheer perseverance, just about finished "Massacre at Mountain Meadows." Thank you for kind advice not to have anything heavy nearby when I was reading; I might broken something throwing it.

Quite simply, I found if the most depressing book I have ever read; I am aghast at the dishonesty and how once again, the LDS Church has suborned and underwritten the desecration of the memory of those individuals murdered in September, 1857.

I'll post a review at some point, and I trust JoD and anyone else who's read it will chime in.

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Posted by: GNPE ( )
Date: January 03, 2017 06:38PM

Nothing is out-of-bounds when you're the Enforcer of 'god's will'.

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Posted by: Kathleen ( )
Date: January 03, 2017 10:16PM

If you want to learn more,

Go to forgottenbooks.com and download "An Authentic Account of The Massacre of Joseph Smith, The Mormon Prophet, And Hyrum Smith, His Brother." by George T.M. Davis. Just make sure you get all pages, 1-47.

Another astonishing book is "Joseph Smith, The Prophet, His Family And His Friends." by Dr. William Wyl. You will not believe your eyes!!! Dr. Wyl is very funny!

Also, if you want to learn the real crazy stuff, look up Tom Phillips' account of the Second Anointing. Most people have no idea that this whacko-ness even exists! It does in Mormonism!!

AAAAND, if you want to learn more about Brigham Young, watch Will Bagley's "Truth About Trek." Easy to find online.

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Posted by: steve benson ( )
Date: January 03, 2017 11:23PM

(NOTE: The highlight of "*****" indicates examples of either preaching or practicing of blood atonement as an official Mormon Cult doctrine under the presidency of Brigham Young, who was a supporter of blood atonement throughout his life as a Mormon leader. Also there is some repetition what is provided below, but I don't want to go through it all and weed it out).

As you read the following, keep in mind that you cannot trust the Mormon Cult to tell you the truth on Mormon Cult president Young's involvement in both the preaching and practicing of blood atonement in the name of God. The Mormon Corporate Cult has attempted to whitewash its blood-covered hands through deliberate misdirects published, for example, in its underwhelming and underhanded "Encyclopedia of Mormonism." This four-volume set of classic Cult deception was published under the acknowledged and corporately-assigned oversight of LDS apostles Neal Maxwell and Dallin Oaks.

That said, the editor of of the set, BYU religion professor Daniel H. Ludlow, notes in the preface of Vol. 1, p. lxii, that the Encyclopedia "is a joint product of Brigham Young University and Macmillan Publishing Company, and its contents do not necessarily represent the official position of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In no sense does the Encyclopedia have the force and authority of scripture." (Vol. 1, p. lxii)

Trouble is, Mormon Cult apostles Neal A. Maxwell and Dallin H. Oaks admitted to me in personal conversations in Maxwell's Mormon Cult office in September 1993 that they shepherded the "Encyclopedia of Mormonism" to its eventual publication. Indeed, holding a copy of the "Encyclopedia," Maxwell told me that he and Oaks had been consultants on the volumes. He said that his and Oaks' approach and inclination were to, when historians came to them and asked questions on various subjects, to include the matters in the "Encyclopedia." Maxwell further said that he and Oaks had been working with Church Archives to ensure that a systematic procedure was in place to catalogue and "meter out" over time documents pertaining to these subjects.

In other words, the Mormon Cult Corporation's devious, degenerate DNA is all over the "Encyclopedia of Mormonism."

In this "Encyclopedia," its assigned cribbers and crafters make a clumsy attempt at skirting the issue of "blood atonement" and, of course, ultimately deny any Cult culpability for the "blood atonement" murders of its targeted victims.

First, for example, the lame effort is made to convince the gullible that the process of snuffing supposedly deserving sinners was a voluntary act on the part of the sinners themselves who earnestly wished to have their blood shed in order to receive final forgivness from the Mormon God:

"Several early Church leaders, most notably Brigham Young, taught that in a complete theocracy the Lord could require the voluntary shedding of a murderer's blood--presumably by CAPTIAL PUNISHMENT--as part of the process of atonement for . . . [the] grievous sin ["such as the shedding of innocent blood (whereby) (o)only by voluntarily submitting to whatever penalty the Lord may require can that person benefit from the atonement of Christ"). This was referred to as 'blood atonement.'

("Encyclopedia of Mormonism," vol. 1, Daniel H. Ludlow, editor [New York, New York: Macmillan Publishing Company, 1992, p. 131, original emphasis)

Next, Mormon Cult apologists lamely attempt to distance their Cult from its infamous, official doctrine on pletely disingenuous claims.

They insist that because the full Kingdom of the Mormon God is not yet in place on the Earth, people don't need to worry yet about having their own blood fatally splattered by God's designated Mormon avengers--meaning (according to the stand apologist line), that God only uses the term "blood atonement" as a linguistical pressure tactic to scare the hell out of people and into compliance:

"Since such a theocracy has not been operative in modern times, the practical effect of the idea was its use as a rhetorical device to heighten the awareness of Latter-day Saints of the seriousness of murder and other major sins."

Mormon apologists also dishonestly claim that "blood atonement" as way to kill murderers and other committers of major infractions against Mormon Kingdom leaders "is not a doctrine of the Church and has never been practiced by the Church at any time."

This assertion is a complete, unmitigated and deliberate effort at peddling fully-blown nonsense by Mormonism's designated liars for the Lord.
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Now, back to Brigham Young and his full-throated endorsement of the preaching and practicing of blood atonement as an official Mormon Cult doctrine:

*****In keeping with Joseph Smith's advocacy of Mormon-sanctified Blood Atonement, his successor to the presidency, Brigham Young, instructed Mormon bishops: "When a man is found to be a thief, he will be a thief no longer, cut his throat, & thro' him in the River.'"

*****Heinous examples of Mormon-enabled executions under the Mormon Cult presidency of Brigham Young:

*****"[James B.] Bracken, Sr. . . . was one of eight Mormons (including the local ward bishop) indicted in 1859 for murdering an incestuous mother, son, and their newborn child in Payson, Utah. Later testimony and the [Mormon] Church newspaper both acknowledged this [Danite-inspired] retributive act."

*****"After Smith's death, [Brigham] Young . . . define[d] 'blood atonement' as 'the law of God.'"

*****On 23 September 1845, "[a] non-Mormon at Warsaw, Illinois, wr[ote] that ' a young man by the name of McBracking' died after Mormons found him trying to burn their homes at Morley's settlement: '[A]fter shooting him in two or three places they cut his throat from ear to ear, stabbed him through the heart, cut off one ear & horribly mutilated [castrated] other parts of his body.' Friends discovered the corpse."

*****On 21 December of the same year, "[Mormon apostle] George A. Smith [told a temple audience]: . . . 'We are now different from what we were before we entered this quorum [of the anointed--] Speedy vengeance will now overtake the transgressor [the assassins of Joseph Smith].'"

*****After that, it was off the races with revenge-driven,Smith-sanctioned blood atonement on the minds of Mormons. Quinn reports that on 13 March 1847, "[f]ormer Danite and [then] policeman Hosea Stout described the appropriate [Mormon] response toward a [Church] dissenter: "[C]ut him off--behind the ears--according to the law of God in such cases." Stout made his written observation "[w]hile keeping close watch on a [Mormon] dissenter by [Brigham] Young's instructions . . . ." From 1847 to 1848, William A. Hickman, was the LDS sheriff of Kanesville, Iowa. He was "[a] non-Danite, but self-confessed murderer under [Mormon] apostolic orders) [who] continued as one of 'Brigham's Boys' in Utah for 20 years." On 5 December 1847, "[w]hen informed that a black Mormon had married a white woman, Young [told] the apostles he would have both killed if he could."

(D. Michael Quinn, "The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power" [Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, in association with Smith Research Associates, 1994], pp. 94-95, 112-13, 151, 182, 335n61, 338-39n82, 477-78, 637, 643, 653-54, 657-58, 660)

*****Of course, Mormon historians dishonestly attempt to blame it all on Brigham but the fact remains that Brigham did it with Joseph's blessing. As Quinn reiterates in a follow-up volume on both the Mormon Church's responsibility and culpability in this regard, Brigham's bloody trail of officially-sanctioned LDS Cult blood atonement ultimately leads back to Joseph Smith:

*****". . . Brigham Young and other Mormon leaders . . . repeatedly preached about specific sins for which it was necessary to shed the blood of men and women. Blood-atonement sins including adultery, apostasy, 'covenant breaking,' counterfeiting, 'many men who left this Church,' murder, not being 'heartily on the Lord's side,' profaning 'the name of the Lord,' sexual intercourse with a 'white' person and an African-American, stealing and telling lies.

*****"Some LDS leaders have dismissed allegations about blood atonement as misunderstanding or misuse of earlier sermons concerning the atonement of Jesus Christ or the civil necessity of capital punishment. Other Mormon leaders have continued to affirm that after committing 'certain grievous sins,' a person 'must make sacrifice of his own life to atone--so far as in his power lies--for that sin, for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail.'

******"Some LDS historians have claimed that blood-atonement sermons were simply Brigham Young's use of 'rhetorical devices designed to frighten wayward individuals into conformity with Latter-day Saint principles' and to bluff anti-Mormons. Writers often describe these sermons as limited to the religious enthusiasm and frenzy of the Utah Reformation up to 1857.

*****"The first problem with such explanation is that official LDS sources show that as early as 1843 Joseph Smith and his counselor Sidney Rigdon advocated decapitation or throat-cutting as punishment for various crimes and sins."

*****In Smith's unholy name, the doctrine of blood atonement was officially unleashed on Mormons (and, according to LDS doctrine, on the world) as God-ordered Mormon Cult doctrine which the Mormon Cult then actually put into practice.

*****Quinn provides the gruesome "Mormon-hounds-of-hell" details:

*****". . . [A] decade before Utah's reformation, Brigham Young's private instructions show that he fully expected his trusted associates to kill various persons for violating religious obligations.

*****"The LDS Church's official history still quotes Young's words to 'the Brethren' in February 1846: 'I should be perfectly willing to see thieves have their throats cut.'

*****"The following December he instructed bishops, '[W]hen a man is found to be a thief, he will be a thief no longer, cut his throat, & thro' him in the River,' and Young did not instruct them to ask his permission.

*****"A week later the Church president explained to a Winter Quarters meeting that cutting of the heads of repeated sinners 'is the law of God & it shall be executed . . . .' A rephrase of Young's words later appeared in Hosea Stout's reference to a specific sinner, 'to cut him off--behind the ears--according to the law of God in such cases.'

*****"In a November 1846 'council' meeting with the apostles, Howard Egan and John D. Lee, the church president also applied this decapitating 'law of god' to non-Mormon enemies. Informed that Lt. Andrew J. Smith was acting like 'a poor wolfish tyranicle Gentile' as commander of the Mormon Battalion, Young asked Lee, 'why I did not take his head off then, and wished that his arm was long enough to reach the Bat.'

*****"When informed that a black Mormon in Massachusetts had married a white woman, Brigham Young told the apostles in December 1847 that he would have both of them killed 'if they were far away from the Gentiles.'

*****"In 1849 the Church president [Brigham Young]told a congregation of Mormons, 'if any one was watched stealing to shoot them dead on the spot and they should not be hurt for it.'

*****"Young's remarks in March 1849 shoWed that he expected members of the Council of Fifty to be one of 'the means' for killing certain persons. On 3 March, at a meeting of the Fifty, he spoke concerning thieves, murderers, and the sexually licentious: 'I want their cursed heads to be cut off that they may atone for their crimes.'

*****"The next day the Fifty agreed that a man 'had forfeited his Head,' but decided it would be best 'to dispose of him privately.'

*****"Two weeks later Young instructed the Fifty regarding two imprisoned men (including the man discussed on 3 March): '[H]e would show them that he was not afraid to take their Head[s] but do as you please with them.' Instead, they Fifty allowed the men to live.

*****"From 1851 to 1888 Utah law allowed persons to be 'beheaded' if found guilty of murder.

*****"Equally significant local sermons during the 1850s intensified the central hierarchy's emphasis on blood atonement. The Parrish murders of March 1857 were the subject within days of the incident, and one man in the congregation of Big Cottonwood Ward, Salt Lake Valley, wrote that he 'was glad to hear that the law of God has been put in force in Springville on some men who deserved it.'

*****"In May, 'Brother Ross' told a 'fellowship meeting' of the Salt Lake City Fifth Ward that the 'time is at hand when those who commit sins worthy of death will have to be slain by the Priesthood [leadership] that is directly over them.' He included an obligation of parents to kill their 'disobedient children.'The 'worthy of death' phrase was a quote from the blood-atonement sermon by First Presidency counselor Jedediah M. Grant three years earlier.

*****"In Spanish Fork, 53 miles south of Salt Lake City, some speakers advised 'if you should find your father or your mother, your sister or your brother dead by the wayside, say nothing about it, but pass on about your own business.'

*****"An LDS woman also confided to an assistant Church historian that ward teachers advised Mormons in Cedar City, southern Utah: 'If you see a dead man laying on your wood pile, you must not tell but go about your business.'

*****"Mormons also privately indicated their belief in an obligation to kill non-Mormon enemies. 'Avenging the blood of the Prophets' was part of the 1852 blessing give by Presiding Patriarch John Smith (senior member of the Council of Fifty) to his grandnephew.

*****"In 1854 local patriarch Elisha H. Groves blessed William H. Dame: '[T]hou shalt be called to act at the head of the portion of the Brethren and of the Lamanites in the redemption of Zion and the avenging of the blood of the prophets upon them that dwell on the earth.'

*****"Days later Patriarch Groves gave another resident of Parowan, Utah, a blessing with almost identical wording about 'avenging.'

*****"In less than four years, as commander of the militia in southern Utah, Dame ordered this man and about 60 other Mormons to join with local Indians ("Laminates") in massacring a non-LDS wagon train of Arkansas families who had been joined by belligerent young me calling themselves 'Missouri Wild Cats' and antagonizing every Mormon settlement they passed through. These people represented the two groups that Mormons blamed for shedding the blood of the prophets David W. Patten, Joseph and Hyrum Smith, and Parley P. Pratt.

"Philip Klingensmith also received the following blessing from Patriarchh Isaac Morely (a member of the Council of Fifty) barely three months before Klingensmith followed Dame's order to kill men, women and children: 'Thous shalt yet be numbered with the sons of Zion in avenging the blood of Brother Joseph for they heart and they spirit can never be satisfied until the wicked are subdued.'

*****"Several days after this Mountain Meadows Massacre, a member of the Council of Fifty discussed similar actions with a ward bishop hundred of miles away n Salt Lake City on 21 September 1867: 'Br. P[hineas]. Richards [a member of the Council of Fifty] spoke of coming in contact our enemies. We have covenanted to avenge the blood of the Prophets and Saints. Why, then, should we hesitate to go forth and slay them--shed their blood--when called upon[?]' The minutes of Bishop Samuel L. Sprague's prayer circle meeting continued: 'Pres. Sprague spoke a few words in answer to the inquiry made by Br. Richards; that the Lord had said "vengeance is mine." Nevertheless, we shoo have blood to shed.'

*****"Concerning this early covenant of vengeance, First Presidency counselor George Q. Cannon told his son that 'when he had his endowments in Nauvoo that he took an oath against the murderers of the Prophet Joseph as well as other prophets . . . .'

*****"Mormons who had committed serious sins also expressed willingness to be blood-atoned by Church leaders. In 1854 the criminal court of Parowan, southern Utah, tried George W. Braffit for adultery, with his wife Sarah as a co-defendant for helping him to obtain the woman. Instead of a civil trial, they 'wanted to go to Brigham, confess, and have their heads taken off.'

*****"'The time we have prayed for so long has come,' exclaimed William H. Dame to the congregation of Parowan on 19 October 1856: 'Some that have sinned grievous sins are offering their lives at the feet of the Prophets as an expiation of them.'

*****"Ten days after this sermon, the stake president Isaac C. Haight wrote Brigham Young and asked what to do with a m an who was willing to be blood-atoned for having engaged in sexual intercourse prior to his marriage. Remarkably Young waited four months to respond with an allowance of forgiveness without blood atonement. What the man experienced in the interim is unknown, but Haight was not patient about such matters and subsequently ordered the Mountain Meadows Massacre without waiting for the authorization he had also sought from the Church president.

*****"The last known willingness to be blood-atoned was in another part of Utah five years after Haight's inquiry. Pioneer Mormons took blood-atonement sermons seriously and literally. . . .

*****"Aside from sermons, this culture of violence was part of LDS congregational singing. In 1856 the 'Deseret News' announced a new hymn which included the verse: 'We ought our Bishops to sustain, Their counsels to abide, And knock down every dwelling Where wicked folks reside.'

*****"Throughout the last half of the 19th century, Mormon congregations sang five hymns that mentioned vengeance and violence upon anti-Mormons. . . . The hymn 'Deseret' even referred to performing blood atonement on adulterers in Utah: 'Where society forwns upon vice and deceit, And adulterers find Heaven's laws they must meet.'

*****"LDS meetinghouses in Utah were also not free of violence that was approved, at least after-the-fact, by Church authorities. In 1851 Brigham Young defended Madison D. Hambleton who shot and killed a man at LDS Church services immediately after the closing prayer. The jury acquitted him for killing his wife's seducer. . . .

*****"[In 1869] Indians allegedly killed three men who had left John Wesley Powell's exploring expedition at the Colorado River, but a Mormon later wrote a private letter about 'the day those three were murdered in our ward & the murderer killed to stop the shed[d]ing of more blood.' The 'our ward' referred to a building in either Harrisburg or Toquerville, small towns in southern Utah. . . . On 7 September 1869 an unsigned telegram (with no place of origin given) informed Apostle Erastus Snow at St. George, Utah, of their [the three men's] deaths '5 days ago, one Indian's day's journey from Washington [Utah]. Powell's men expressed suspicion that Mormons were involved in the killings, but the identity and motives of the killer(s) are still unclear. . . .

*****"In September 1857 Apostle George A. Smith told a Salt Lake City congregation that Mormons at Parowan in southern Utah 'wish that their enemies might come and give them a chance to fight and take vengeance for the cruelties that had been inflicted upon us in the States.' Smith had just returned from southern Utah where he had encouraged such feelings by preaching fiery sermons about resisting the [advancing] U.S. army and taking vengeance on anti-Mormons. Just days before his talk in Salt Lake City, members of Parowan's Mormon militia participated in killing 120 men, women and children in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. After holding a prayer circle, stake president Isaac C. Haight had decided not to await word from Brigham Young about whether to help Indians kill the emigrants.

*****"For a decade the Church president had threatened to use Native Americans against other Americans . . . Young wrote in diary of 1 September 1857: 'I can hardly restrain them [the Native Americans' from exterminating the "Americans."'"

*****(D. Michael Quinn, "The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power" (Salt Lake City, Utah: in association with Smith Research Associates, 1997], pp. 246-52)

*****Joseph Smith's Mormon Death Cult Student and Successor, Brigham Young, Advocates Spearing Adulterous Men Through the Heart

*****Mormon apologists apparently realize this might be a hard point to sell but nonetheless try to rationalize Brigham Young's endorsement of javelining apostate Mormon men to death, as long as it is done to the deserving in the name of the Mormon God. Here is Young's heartfelt backing of spearing sinners:

*****"Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife and put a javelin through both of them. You would be justified and they would atone for their sins and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands."

*****(Brigham Young, “Instructions to the Bishops, Etc.,” as published in "Journal of Discourses," as reported by G.D. Watt, 16 March 1856, Vol. 3 (London: Latter-Day Saint’s Book Depot, 1856), p. 247)

*****What now follows is the brutal, barbaric, sadistic, sick, twisted, immoral justifications for Bloody Brigham's advocacy of divinely-decreed death by spear, as excerpted from the pathetic spin of one of FAIR's grasping ghoulish groupies, Mike Parker:

*****"On 16 March 1856, President Brigham Young delivered an address in the Salt Lake Tabernacle, part of which concerned men and women being judged by God according to the knowledge they had obtained in mortality. He explained that the Latter-day Saints must 'know and understand the peculiarities of our present organization, and how liable mankind are to submit to its weaknesses, and to the influences of the powers that rule over them.'

*****"This address came near the start of a period known as the Mormon Reformation . . ." [NOTE: the Mormon Reformation, so-called, was the LDS CUlt's version of the Spanish Inquisition, in which LDS apostates were shunned, banished and/or killed and its members warned of the death at the hands of righteous Saints if they didn't straighten up and fly right]/

*****But we digress. Back to Gardner's water-carrying for Mormonism's murdering Jesus:

*****"[The Mormon Reformation' was] a movement initiated by Church leaders in 1856-57 to rekindle faith and testimony in what was perceived as a community sliding into spiritual apathy. This period is marked by fiery sermons by Brigham Young, Jedediah M. Grant, and other general Church authorities, who tried to encourage the Saints to recommit themselves to obedience to God and to their baptismal and temple covenants.4 Sometimes their sermonic rhetoric slipped into warnings of spiritual peril for those who committed serious sins. It was during this time that the doctrine of blood atonement was taught more forcefully than in any other period. . . .

*****". . . [T]he [Mormon] . . . doctrine of blood atonement posits that man can commit some sins so heinous that Christ’s sacrifice is unavailing, but the offender himself may partially atone for his sin by sacrificing his life in a way which literally sheds his blood. The spilling of blood is required because blood is viewed as possessing symbolic religious significance.

*****"Blood atonement was, in effect, a theological extension of capital punishment, requiring the offender to give his life because of the seriousness of his sins. The origin of this teaching is found in numerous scriptures, including Genesis 9:6 ('Whoso sheddeth man’s blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man'). . . .

*****: . . . Brigham clearly indicate[d] that the time when 'blood atonement' would be practiced was far in the future, when the Latter-day Saints would be educated in (and therefore living under the requirements of) the celestial law. Until this time, he enjoined the Saints to be compassionate and forgiving of each others’ faults, knowing that they were as yet imperfect . . . .

*****"During Brigham’s 16 March 1856 address, he took up the subject of those Latter-day Saints who made temple covenants of chastity and then broke them. . . . Brigham specifically addressed those who were not sinning in ignorance, but against specific covenants of chastity made in the temple. [NOTE: In other words, these were the Mormon sinners worthy of having their hearts run through with a spear] . . .

*****"With regard to [Young's open support capital punishment through the imposition of blood atonement on certain vile reprobates, Brigham [was] actually taking this direction directly from scripture. In Numbers 25 we read that Israel, while traveling in the wilderness, camped for a while in Shittim. During this time the people of Israel began to commit sexual immorality and idolatry with the neighboring Moabites. Moses commanded the leaders of Israel who were engaged in this practice to be executed. At this very moment:

*****"'And, behold, one of the children of Israel came and brought unto his brethren a Midianitish woman in the sight of Moses, and in the sight of all the congregation of the children of Israel, who were weeping before the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And when Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose up from among the congregation, and took a javelin in his hand; and he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel, and the woman through her belly. So the plague was stayed from the children of Israel. And those that died in the plague were twenty and four thousand'(Numbers 25:6-9.) . . . .

*****"24,000 Israelites died as a result of their immorality; the Lord praised Phinehas for acting quickly and saving the remaining Israelites from destruction. Sectarian anti-Mormon critics are quick to excuse Moses and his followers for killing 24,000 people, while condemning Brigham Young--'the American Moses'–who only endorsed such behavior.

*****"While Brigham’s example seems to us extreme, we need to keep in mind the spirit of his time. He was speaking forcefully to a group of spiritually apathetic Saints to remind them of the seriousness of the covenants they had made. He took an Old Testament scenario–one in which an Israelite had killed another sexually immoral Israelite–and applied it to his own time and people.

*****"Before our critics go after Brigham Young for his views on blood atonement, they need to deal with comparable passages in their own Bible."

*****("Did Brigham Young Say that He Would Kill an Adulterous Wife with a Javelin?," by Mike Parker, "FAIRMormon: Critical Questions, Faithful Answers," at: http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectives/publications/did-brigham-young-say-he-would-kill-an-adulterous-wife-with-a-javelin)

*****This, then, is the official doctrine of the Mormon Death Cult: Uesus Saves--But Only After Mormons Kill. How Chritain of him.

*****Not to Put Too Fine a Point on It, Brigham Young, Declares that the Mormon Death CUlt's Joseph Smith-Sanctified Doctrine of Blood Atonement is God’s Will.

******Quinn writes that “after Smith's death, [Brigham] Young . . . define[d] 'blood atonement' as 'the law of God.'"

*****Brigham Young’s Mormon Death Cult Calls for Horse Thieves to Have Their Throats Slashed

*****Quinn reports that, in keeping with Smith's advocacy of Mormon-sanctified Blood Atonement, his in-the-wings throne-filler Brigham Young, instructed Mormon bishops: "When a man is found to be a thief, he will be a thief no longer, cut his throat, & thro' him in the River.'"

*****Mormon Death Cult-Endorsed Executions that Occurred on Young’s Bloody Watch,

*****Quinn reports on the Mormon Death Cult-sanctioned killing of accused criminals under the approving eye of Brigham Young:

*****"[James B.] Bracken, Sr. . . . was one of eight Mormons (including the local ward bishop) indicted in 1859 for murdering an incestuous mother, son, and their newborn child in Payson, Utah. Later testimony and the [Mormon] Church newspaper both acknowledged this [Danite-inspired] retributive act."

*****On 23 September 1845, "[a] non-Mormon at Warsaw, Illinois, wr[ote] that ' a young man by the name of McBracking' died after Mormons found him trying to burn their homes at Morley's settlement: '[A]fter shooting him in two or three places they cut his throat from ear to ear, stabbed him through the heart, cut off one ear & horribly mutilated [castrated] other parts of his body.' Friends discovered the corpse."

*****The Mormon Death Cult Calls for a Quick Avenging of Joseph Smith’s Death

*****As reported by Quinn, on 21 December 1845, "[Mormon apostle] George A. Smith [told a temple audience]: . . . 'We are now different from what we were before we entered this quorum [of the anointed--] Speedy vengeance will now overtake the transgressor [the assassins of Joseph Smith].'"

*****It was now off the races with revenge-driven,Smith-sanctioned blood atonement on the minds of the Mormons. Quinn records that on 13 March 1847, "[f]ormer Danite and [then] policeman Hosea Stout described the appropriate [Mormon] response toward a [Church] dissenter: "[C]ut him off--behind the ears--according to the law of God in such cases." Stout made his written observation "[w]hile keeping close watch on a [Mormon] dissenter by [Brigham] Young's instructions . . . ." From 1847 to 1848, William A. Hickman, was the LDS sheriff of Kanesville, Iowa. He was "[a] non-Danite, but self-confessed murderer under [Mormon] apostolic orders) [who] continued as one of 'Brigham's Boys' in Utah for 20 years." On 5 December 1847, "[w]hen informed that a black Mormon had married a white woman, Young [told] the apostles he would have both killed if he could."

*****(D. Michael Quinn, "The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power" [Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, in association with Smith Research Associates, 1994], pp. 94-95, 112-13, 151, 182, 335n61, 338-39n82, 477-78, 637, 643, 653-54, 657-58, 660)

*****Brigham Young’s Mormon Death Cult Teaching that Race-Violating Blood Mixers Shall Die Instantly

*****Here is Young’s warning of instant death to any LDS male who dared mix his blood with that of the “cursed” lineage of Cain:

*****"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so." (Brigham Young “

******As with Joseph Smith, Mormon Death Cult Apologists Attempt to Blame All Its Godly Blood and guts on Brigham Young--hile Ignoring the Fact that Young Was Taught Mormon Death Cult Doctrine by Joseph Smith

******LDS historians dishonestly attempt to blame all of the Mormon Death Cult's barbarism on Brigham young but the fact remains that Young sanctioned it with Joseph's blessing. As Quinn reiterates on both the Mormon Church's responsibility and culpability in this regard, Young's bloody trail of officially-approved Mormon Death Cult blood atonement ultimately leads back to Joseph Smith:

******". . . Brigham Young and other Mormon leaders . . . repeatedly preached about specific sins for which it was necessary to shed the blood of men and women. Blood-atonement sins including adultery, apostasy, 'covenant breaking,' counterfeiting, 'many men who left this Church,' murder, not being 'heartily on the Lord's side,' profaning 'the name of the Lord,' sexual intercourse with a 'white' person and an African-American, stealing and telling lies.

*****"Some LDS leaders have dismissed allegations about blood atonement as misunderstanding or misuse of earlier sermons concerning the atonement of Jesus Christ or the civil necessity of capital punishment. Other Mormon leaders have continued to affirm that after committing 'certain grievous sins,' a person 'must make sacrifice of his own life to atone--so far as in his power lies--for that sin, for the blood of Christ alone under certain circumstances will not avail.'

*****"Some LDS historians have claimed that blood-atonement sermons were simply Brigham Young's use of 'rhetorical devices designed to frighten wayward individuals into conformity with Latter-day Saint principles' and to bluff anti-Mormons. Writers often describe these sermons as limited to the religious enthusiasm and frenzy of the Utah Reformation up to 1857.

*****"The first problem with such explanation is that official LDS sources show that as early as 1843 Joseph Smith and his counselor Sidney Rigdon advocated decapitation or throat-cutting as punishment for various crimes and sins."

******In Smith's unholy name, the doctrine of blood atonement was officially unleashed on Mormons (and, according to LDS doctrine, on the world) as God-ordered Mormon Cult doctrine which the Mormon Cult then actually put into practice.

*****Quinn provides the gruesome "Mormon-hounds-of-hell" details:

******". . . [A] decade before Utah's reformation, Brigham Young's private instructions show that he fully expected his trusted associates to kill various persons for violating religious obligations.

*****"The LDS Church's official history still quotes Young's words to 'the Brethren' in February 1846: 'I should be perfectly willing to see thieves have their throats cut.'

*****"The following December he instructed bishops, '[W]hen a man is found to be a thief, he will be a thief no longer, cut his throat, & thro' him in the River,' and Young did not instruct them to ask his permission.

*****"A week later, the Church president explained to a Winter Quarters meeting that cutting of the heads of repeated sinners 'is the law of God & it shall be executed . . . .' A rephrase of Young's words later appeared in Hosea Stout's reference to a specific sinner, 'to cut him off--behind the ears--according to the law of God in such cases.'

*****"In a November 1846 'Council' meeting with the apostles, Howard Egan and John D. Lee, the church president also applied this decapitating 'law of god' to non-Mormon enemies. Informed that Lt. Andrew J. Smith was acting like 'a poor wolfish tyrannical Gentile' as commander of the Mormon Battalion, Young asked Lee, 'why I did not take his head off then, and wished that his arm was long enough to reach the Bat.'

*****"When informed that a black Mormon in Massachusetts had married a white woman, Brigham Young told the apostles in December 1847 that he would have both of them killed 'if they were far away from the Gentiles.'

*****"In 1849. the Church president told a congregation of Mormons, 'if any one was watched stealing to shoot them dead on the spot and they should not be hurt for it.'

*****"Young's remarks in March 1849 showed that he expected members of the Council of Fifty to be one of 'the means' for killing certain persons. On 3 March, at a meeting of the Fifty, he spoke concerning thieves, murderers, and the sexually licentious: 'I want their cursed heads to be cut off that they may atone for their crimes.'

*****"The next day the Fifty agreed that a man 'had forfeited his Head,' but decided it would be best 'to dispose of him privately.'

*****"Two weeks later, Young instructed the Fifty regarding two imprisoned men (including the man discussed on 3 March): '[H]e would show them that he was not afraid to take their Head[s] but do as you please with them.' Instead, they Fifty allowed the men to live.

*****"From 1851 to 1888, Utah law allowed persons to be 'beheaded' if found guilty of murder.

*****"Equally significant local sermons during the 1850s intensified the central hierarchy's emphasis on blood atonement. The Parrish murders of March 1857 were the subject within days of the incident, and one man in the congregation of Big Cottonwood Ward, Salt Lake Valley, wrote that he 'was glad to hear that the law of God has been put in force in Springville on some men who deserved it.'

*****"In May, 'Brother Ross' told a 'fellowship meeting' of the Salt Lake City Fifth Ward that the 'time is at hand when those who commit sins worthy of death will have to be slain by the Priesthood [leadership] that is directly over them.' He included an obligation of parents to kill their 'disobedient children. 'The 'worthy of death' phrase was a quote from the blood-atonement sermon by First Presidency counselor Jedediah M. Grant three years earlier.

*****"In Spanish Fork, 53 miles south of Salt Lake City, some speakers advised 'if you should find your father or your mother, your sister or your brother dead by the wayside, say nothing about it, but pass on about your own business.'

*****"An LDS woman also confided to an assistant Church historian that ward teachers advised Mormons in Cedar City, southern Utah: 'If you see a dead man laying on your wood pile, you must not tell but go about your business.'

*****"Mormons also privately indicated their belief in an obligation to kill non-Mormon enemies. 'Avenging the blood of the Prophets' was part of the 1852 blessing give by Presiding Patriarch John Smith (senior member of the Council of Fifty) to his grandnephew.

*****"In 1854, local patriarch Elisha H. Groves blessed William H. Dame: '[T]hou shalt be called to act at the head of the portion of the Brethren and of the Lamanites in the redemption of Zion and the avenging of the blood of the prophets upon them that dwell on the earth.'

*****"Days later, Patriarch Groves gave another resident of Parowan, Utah, a blessing with almost identical wording about 'avenging.'

*****"In less than four years, as commander of the militia in southern Utah, [Willilam H] Dame ordered this man and about 60 other Mormons to join with local Indians ('Laminates') in massacring a non-LDS wagon train of Arkansas families who had been joined by belligerent young me calling themselves 'Missouri Wild Cats' and antagonizing every Mormon settlement they passed through. These people represented the two groups that Mormons blamed for shedding the blood of the prophets David W. Patten, Joseph and Hyrum Smith, and Parley P. Pratt.

*****"Philip Klingensmith also received the following blessing from Patriarch Isaac Morely (a member of the Council of Fifty) barely three months before Klingensmith followed Dame's order to kill men, women and children: 'Thou shalt yet be numbered with the sons of Zion in avenging the blood of Brother Joseph for they heart and they spirit can never be satisfied until the wicked are subdued.'

*****"Several days after this Mountain Meadows Massacre, a member of the Council of Fifty discussed similar actions with a ward bishop hundred of miles away n Salt Lake City on 21 September 1867: 'Br. P[hineas]. Richards [a member of the Council of Fifty] spoke of coming in contact our enemies. We have covenanted to avenge the blood of the Prophets and Saints. Why, then, should we hesitate to go forth and slay them--shed their blood--when called upon[?]' The minutes of Bishop Samuel L. Sprague's prayer circle meeting continued: 'Pres. Sprague spoke a few words in answer to the inquiry made by Br. Richards; that the Lord had said "vengeance is mine." Nevertheless, we shoo have blood to shed.'

******"Concerning this early covenant of vengeance, First Presidency counselor George Q. Cannon told his son that 'when he had his endowments in Nauvoo that he took an oath against the murderers of the Prophet Joseph as well as other prophets . . . .'

*****"Mormons who had committed serious sins also expressed willingness to be blood-atoned by Church leaders. In 1854 the criminal court of Parowan, southern Utah, tried George W. Braffit for adultery, with his wife Sarah as a co-defendant for helping him to obtain the woman. Instead of a civil trial, they 'wanted to go to Brigham, confess, and have their heads taken off.'

*****"'The time we have prayed for so long has come,' exclaimed William H. Dame to the congregation of Parowan on 19 October 1856: 'Some that have sinned grievous sins are offering their lives at the feet of the Prophets as an expiation of them.'

*****"Ten days after this sermon, the stake president Isaac C. Haight wrote Brigham Young and asked what to do with a man who was willing to be blood-atoned for having engaged in sexual intercourse prior to his marriage. Remarkably Young waited four months to respond with an allowance of forgiveness without blood atonement. What the man experienced in the interim is unknown, but Haight was not patient about such matters and subsequently ordered the Mountain Meadows Massacre without waiting for the authorization he had also sought from the Church president.

*****"The last known willingness to be blood-atoned was in another part of Utah five years after Haight's inquiry. Pioneer Mormons took blood-atonement sermons seriously and literally. . . .

******"Aside from sermons, this culture of violence was part of LDS congregational singing. In 1856 the 'Deseret News' announced a new hymn which included the verse: 'We ought our Bishops to sustain, Their counsels to abide, And knock down every dwelling Where wicked folks reside.'

*****"Throughout the last half of the 19th century, Mormon congregations sang five hymns that mentioned vengeance and violence upon anti-Mormons. . . . The hymn 'Deseret' even referred to performing blood atonement on adulterers in Utah: 'Where society frowns upon vice and deceit, And adulterers find Heaven's laws they must meet.'

*****"LDS meetinghouses in Utah were also not free of violence that was approved, at least after-the-fact, by Church authorities. In 1851 Brigham Young defended Madison D. Hambleton who shot and killed a man at LDS Church services immediately after the closing prayer. The jury acquitted him for killing his wife's seducer. . . .

*****"[In 1869], Indians allegedly killed three men who had left John Wesley Powell's exploring expedition at the Colorado River, but a Mormon later wrote a private letter about 'the day those three were murdered in our ward & the murderer killed to stop the shed[d]ing of more blood.' The 'our ward' referred to a building in either Harrisburg or Toquerville, small towns in southern Utah. . . . On 7 September 1869 an unsigned telegram (with no place of origin given) informed Apostle Erastus Snow at St. George, Utah, of their [the three men's] deaths '5 days ago, one Indian's day's journey from Washington [Utah]. Powell's men expressed suspicion that Mormons were involved in the killings, but the identity and motives of the killer(s) are still unclear. . . .

*****"In September 1857, Apostle George A. Smith told a Salt Lake City congregation that Mormons at Parowan in southern Utah 'wish that their enemies might come and give them a chance to fight and take vengeance for the cruelties that had been inflicted upon us in the States.' Smith had just returned from southern Utah where he had encouraged such feelings by preaching fiery sermons about resisting the [advancing] U.S. army and taking vengeance on anti-Mormons. Just days before his talk in Salt Lake City, members of Parowan's Mormon militia participated in killing 120 men, women and children in the Mountain Meadows Massacre. After holding a prayer circle, stake president Isaac C. Haight had decided not to await word from Brigham Young about whether to help Indians kill the emigrants.

*****"For a decade the Church president had threatened to use Native Americans against other Americans . . . Young wrote in diary of 1 September 1857: 'I can hardly restrain them [the Native Americans' from exterminating the "Americans."'"

*****(Quinn, "The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power" (Salt Lake City, Utah: in For a decade the Church president had threatened to use Native Americans against other Americans . . . Young wrote in diary of 1 September 1857: 'I can hardly restrain them [the Native Americans' from exterminating the "Americans."'"

*****(Quinn, "The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power" (Salt Lake City, Utah: in association with Smith Research Associates, 1997], pp. 246-52)
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*****Historian Quinn (who, by the way, was excommunicated for publishing the truth about Mormon preachings and practices), in his book, "The Mormon Hierarchy: Extensions of Power," offers stark evidence that "blood atonement" was, in fact, both advocated and acted on by Mormon Cult leaders:

*****". . . Brigham Young and other Mormon leaders . . . repeatedly preached about specific sins for which it was necessary to shed the blood of men and women.

*****"Blood-atonement sins included adultery, apostasy, 'covenant breaking,' counterfeiting, 'many men who left this Church,' murder, not being 'heartily on the Lord's side,' profaning 'the name of the Lord,' sexual intercourse between a 'white' person and an African-American, stealing, and telling lies. . . .

*****"Some LDS historians have claimed that blood-atonement sermons were simply Brigham Young's use of 'rhetorical devices designed to frighten wayward individuals into conformity with Latter-day Saint principles' and to bluff anti-Mormons.

*****"Writers often describe these sermons as limited to the religious enthusiasm and frenzy of the Utah Reformation up to 1857.

*****"The first problem with such explanations is that official LDS sources show that as early as 1843 Joseph Smith and his counselor Sidney Rigdon advocated decapitation or throat-cutting as punishment for various crimes and sins.

*****"Moreover, a decade before Utah's reformation, Brigham Young's private instructions show that he fully expected his trusted associates to kill various persons for violating religious obligations.

*****"The LDS church's official history still quotes Young's words to 'the brethren' in February 1846:

*****"'I should be perfectly willing to see thieves have their throats cut.'

*****"The following December he instructed bishops, 'when a man is found to be a thief, he will be a thief no longer, cut his throat, and thro' him in the River,' and Young did not instruct them to ask his permission.

*****"A week later the church president explained to a Winter Quarters meeting that cutting off the heads of repeated sinners 'is the law of God and it shall be executed . . .' A rephrase of Young's words later appeared in Hosea Stout's reference to a specific sinner, 'to cut him off--behind the ears--according to the law of God in such cases.'. . .

*****"When informed that a black Mormon in Massachusetts had married a white woman, Brigham Young told the apostles in December 1847 that he would have both of them killed 'if they were far away from the Gentiles.'"

*****The bloody beat goes on, as Quinn further details:

*****"As late as 1868 the 'Deseret News' encouraged rank-and-file Mormons to kill anyone who engaged in sexual relations outside marriage. . . .

*****"Under such circumstances the Mormon hierarchy bore full responsibility for the violent acts of zealous Mormon[s] who accepted their instructions literally and carried out various forms of blood atonement.

*****"'Obviously there were those who could not easily make a distinction between rhetoric and reality,' a BYU religion professor has written. . . . It is unrealistic to assume that faithful Mormons all declined to act on such repeated instructions in pioneer Utah. . . . Neither is it reasonable to assume that the known cases of blood atonement even approximated the total number that occurred in the first twenty years after Mormon settlement in Utah. . . . LDS leaders publicly and privately encouraged Mormons to consider it their religious right to kill antagonistic outsiders, common criminals, LDS apostates, and even faithful Mormons who committed sins 'worthy of death.'"

*****Quinn then notes another example of Mormon Cult-approved "blood atonement:

*****"5 Apr. [1902], 'Clyde Felt has confessed to cutting the throat of old man Collins, at his request. The old man was a moral degenerate. The boy is a son of David P. Felt.' Grandson of former general authority, Clyde Felt is fourteen. Despite this blood atonement murder, LDS leaders allow [the] young man to be endowed and married in temple eight years later." (D.Micael Quinn, "The Mormon Hierarc: Extensions of Power" [Salt Lake City, Utah: Signature Books, 1997], pp. 241-261, 251-53, 256-57, 60, 804-05)

*****Unmoved by the facts, the shilling "Encyclopedia for Mormonism" limps forward in its same apologetic effort to deny that Brigham Young was responsible for any penalty "blood atonement" sentences imposed on those deemed deserving of the punishment:

"Early anti-Mormon writers charged that under Brigham Young the Church practiced 'blood atonement,' by which they meant Church-instigated violence directed at dissenters, enemies and strangers.

*****"This claim distorted the whole idea of blood atonement--which was based on voluntary submission by an offender--into a supposed justification of involuntary punishment. Occasional isolated acts of violence that occurred in areas where Latter-day Saints lived were typical of that period in the history of the American West, but there were not instances of Church-sanctioned blood atonement." ("Encyclopedia of Mormonism," p. 131).

*****Again, total "B.S." (meaning, of course, "Brigham Spin").

*****Read the following and decide for yourself if what Young was talking about here (in terms of killing adulterers, for instance) was a matter of voluntary compliance on the part of the participating parties and if it was anything but a Mormon God-ordered execution:

*****"Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, and put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God.

*****"I would at once do so in such a case; under such circumstances. I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands." ("Journal of Discourses," vol. 3, p. 247)

*****Indeed, whether it was mingling sperm and egg with Black people or cheating on one's spouse, Brigham Young was all for either a javelin in the heart or a cutting' off of the head.

*****Speaking of mingling white seed with Blacks, Young declared:

"If a man in an unguarded moment should commit such a transgression, if he would walk up and say cut off my head, and kill man, woman and child it would do a great deal towards atoning for the sin.

"Would this be to curse them? No, it would be a blessing to them--It would do them good that they might be saved with their Brethren.

*****"A man would shudder should they here us take about killing folk, but it is one of the greatest blessings to some to kill them, although the true principles of it are not understood."

http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/s...

*****The bottom line is that the Mormon Church has committed the crime of religiously-driven murder in the name of "Blood Atonement"--and has been trying to cover its bloody tracks ever since.



Edited 7 time(s). Last edit at 01/04/2017 04:30AM by steve benson.

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Posted by: poopstone ( )
Date: January 05, 2017 12:22PM

what's interesting is that within the last 10 years they just built the "Rockwell Jr. High" in Saratoga Springs. What bothers me is that Rockwell isn't a man that young teenagers should all seek to emulate. He was always drunk, never kept a steady job, and killed 100 people. An nonconformist, yet Jr. high is an institution of conformity.

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Posted by: SL Cabbie ( )
Date: January 05, 2017 01:01PM

And in the "mass murderer" department, he outshines Rockwell...

(see Dr. Robinson Murder; also Mountain Meadows Massacre)

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