We've heard all kinds of 'half-lies' from ChurchCo lately
(perhaps more recanting?)

What's the BIGGEST WHOPPER they've told lately?...Or, the Biggest Whopper they've recanted?

as much documentation as possible,Please.

See one Elder Holland

I agree his stmnts were misleading...
but I didn't catch any Whoppers

guynoirprivateeye Wrote:
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> but I didn't catch any Whoppers

I think his biggest whopper was when he said he wasn't a dodo :-)

The biggest whoppers I've heard here lately are that jesus was an actual person and also that Nazareth existed during the time of this pretend jesus.



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This whopper was taught last week in priesthood from the Lorenzo Snow manual.

"When Joseph Smith received his divine calling, he was a pure, sincere, honest young man.

Joseph Smith, whom God chose to establish this work, was poor and uneducated, and belonged to no popular denomination of Christians. He was a mere boy, honest, full of integrity, unacquainted with the trickery, cunning and sophistry employed by politicians and religious hypocrites, to accomplish their ends."

Kind of misses the point about being convicted of being a con man. Let alone starting up an illegal bank, sleeping with teenagers and other mens wives.

The church has nicely redefined honest, full of integrity and unacquainted with trickery.



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That lesson made me want to scream. The teacher told us that Joseph was "PERFECTLY honest...he never even told a little white lie in order to save himself from undue persecution". BS!!!

"I knew Joseph Smith to be an honest man, a man of truth, honor and fidelity, willing to sacrifice everything he possessed, even life itself, as a testimony to the heavens and the world that he had borne the truth to the human family.”

Hmmm...sounds like Lorenzo Snow didn't know him at all. Did he even know of the circumstances surrounding his death? It had nothing to do with his testimony.

"As to [Joseph Smith] being a man of truth and honor I, nor any one else that knew him, have any reason to question for a moment."

What about all the APOSTLES that left him? Most of those closest to him recognized him as a fallen prophet, criminal, adulterer, etc...

My favorite Joseph Smith tall tale is when they make a big to-do about his not drinking whiskey when getting surgery as a kid... implying that he followed the word of wisdom (at great sacrifice) even then. Twenty years later... yeah, lots of beer, wine, and so forth. Funny how they never talk about *that.*

The biggest whopper:

The very first time one of the LDS dinosaurs uttered the phrase, "I don't know that we teach that."

I was expecting something else entirely from this thread.

<slides back down into the gutter>

Yea - I was expecting the merits of home-made hamburger vs. fast food. *sigh I am hungry--

spaghetti oh Wrote:
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> I was expecting something else entirely from this
> thread.
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Not all that surprising since your name is your self-proclaimed exclamation upon seeing the FSM's noodly appendage.

I still chuckle every time I see your name and remember your explanation.

<hangs head in shame>

;-)

The missionaries told me they "didn't know" and would have to ask someone regarding my question about IF I could be sealed to my children in the temple even though my husband is not a member.

Yep, they were just lying to your face.

They have been taught how to lie. This video shows the process:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zA-rZQB-xQ

spanner Wrote:
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> Yep, they were just lying to your face.
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> They have been taught how to lie. This video shows
> the process:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zA-rZQB-xQ

Dude says, "It may be wiser to say, 'That's an interesting question, it has been asked frequently. Well let me begin this way" (insert the story of Joseph Smith's life here). "I'm going to answer the question, with the question he SHOULD HAVE ASKED".


Distraction in the deepest degree. WOW. I've been duped. How do they feel so proud of sending their kids out to LIE?? How can they sleep at night knowing their young teens are send to do this? The thing is, I kept hounding and hounding my missionaries when I was converted. And they kept diverting and diverting me and not answering. Finally, I said, "Why don't you ever answer me except with things that don't even relate to my question". The response was, "Because what we are saying DOES relate to your question. In our religion, we believe in a principle called MILK BEFORE MEAT" (and then they went on to discuss why a new member is like a baby and cannot digest meat but only milk, blah blah blah).

The thing is, that kind of rhetoric will insult an intelligent person and push them away, as it finally did me. :( It's just so insulting. Do they think we're stupid?

I will answer with a quote from the pastor on The Simpsons "Yes, but-- No, if." ;-)

cynthus Wrote:
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> I will answer with a quote from the pastor on The
> Simpsons "Yes, but-- No, if." ;-)

bwahahahahahaha....

Biggest whopper i saw and heard was Gordo Hinckster implying to the press that church financial statements are available to the members.

That was a huge whopper. I remember that one. Pants on fire.

You can't be happy unless you're a righteous Mormon.

Or successful. When I was a little boy I assumed that everyone on TV was Mormon, because my father told me there was no success outside the church.

The LDS church made movie "Legacy" is one of the biggest collection of lies in a single media piece, especially how they never mention the 30+ wives of Smith, his Masonic connections leading to his having a very high rank in the Masonic local lodge, or the trouble that the Danites were inciting by robbing and stealing from non-Mormons which led to so much violence blamed on the "evil mobs."



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