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Posted by: romy ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 12:31AM

Because I am in the process of officially taking my name off tssc records and I see others posting about it I'm curious if most on the board have resigned or plan to resign?

I didn't feel that passionately about it until watching the documentary on prop 8 and also seeing discussions on the board about the padding of tssc's membership numbers. I am glad I will force tssc to be at least a LITTLE more accurate by 1 number once my records are removed.

I hope many others are doing the same so tssc gets the message and has to be a little more accurate on their membership total to the public (and ideally it is seen as shrinking) but I know everyone's situation is different. Your thoughts?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/08/2012 12:49AM by romy.

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Posted by: Emma's Flaming Sword ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 12:37AM

Waiting for our friend who is also our bishop to get released.

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Posted by: jan ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 12:53AM

Fifth-generation BIC Utah Mormon, full-tithe payer, attended temple sessions once a week for three years.

Resigned by email Dec 2010. I didn't anticipate having any effect on Kolob, Inc; I just wanted to make the statement that I was done with them. Glad I did.

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Posted by: mr. mike ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 12:57AM

I would send in a resignation letter just to confuse them, because I never was a member in the first place.

Mindgames.

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Posted by: icanseethelight ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 12:59AM

Won't do it. They have no power.

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Posted by: geekchick ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 01:59PM

+1

They decided I wasn't in at one time.
I worked hard to get back in only to be reminded I was a 2nd class citizen.
I decided I wasn't in anymore - they don't have the power to say otherwise.

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Posted by: foundoubt ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 01:00AM

I resigned two years ago. My email resignation took six months. Third generation BIC.

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Posted by: Just browsing ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 01:12AM

Catapulted out by Boyd K Packer and a willing Stake High Council.

Jb

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Posted by: jpt ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 01:32AM

So, my name shows up in lots of places in the big mormon database.

I could resign... and do that "send a message thing," but I prefer being a pain to them. They think they need to visit me, and I show up on a lot of their local reports that show names of people not doing or having.... that's me! I'm a bad stat.

I figure I lost a lot of life and money to mormonism. Disappearing would be to easy for them. Actually, my extended family have suggested I resign and move on... for the very reasons I stay in.

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Posted by: FormerLattetClimber ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 01:55AM

I see it as not necessary, at least for now. The Mormon church collectively acts as a Narcissistic individual. So, I deal with it like I would any Narcissist, for my own well being. No Contact. Not even to resign.

Of course your path is absolutely valid Romy, and I actually think the number fudging thing would be a good reason to get your name removed, especially since the presidential election has brought Mormonism into the spotlight, and we wouldn't want to give investigators the wrong impression....oh wait, I think I just talked myself into resigning for the sake of those poor victims, er investigators.

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Posted by: Sorcha ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 02:32AM

Won't resign (for now) for family reasons. Am inactive, but allow VT & HT visits so long as they make an appointment in advance and DON'T preach when they're here. Over the past three years, they've learned to respect my boundaries.

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Posted by: dogeatdog ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 02:52AM

Currently considering it, for the numbers reason. Also wondering if anyone can tell me: if my daughter was born in the Church - she is counted as a member, correct? Do I need to specifically ask to have her name removed or what happens with that?

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Posted by: snb ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 03:06AM

I really can't be bothered. Besides, I hope they excommunicate me one day instead.

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Posted by: amos2 ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 03:32AM

I was a TBM right up until a precise moment- date/time/place...'nother story, but it was 2008

I went through a series of compensating layers, at first trying to fake it (or in my mind tip-toe through it avoiding what I objected to), then quitting sectist callings, then quitting all callings, then finally resigning in 2011.

I think anyone/everyone should be allowed (philosophically) to take as long as they need to, because the stakes vary. And, because it's a psychological shock and it takes time to compensate. You don't just stroll blissfully out of one universal paradigm into another. When your "testimony" collapses, especially if you didn't see it coming, you sit stunned in the rubble for a while.

My resignation is/was not without risk. I have a TBM wife who still thinks I'm just in a depressive phase, that my feelings about the church are from a dysfunctional youth in it. It's only been a few years. I don't know how this will evolve over decades.
Resigning is a commitment, because you can never really go back. Once you tell the bishop, your apostasy goes on your record. Once you resign, the church keeps a permanent record of it, including any suspected transgressions. Even if you wanted to come back to church, you're marked for life as having resigned. I'm sure you're ineligible for any prestigious callings.

You've got to be sure...

...but also I've NEVER been more driven to do anything in my life. It was an imperative, it was my own personal act of courage to proactively resign, to cast my vote by staking my name on it, permanently. It's a done deal. I'm an exmormon, and I do not regret it AT ALL.

IMO, there's no other answer. There's a strong temptation to try and salvage the good in mormonism, to get to the true core...but the damned sh1t is ALL fake/false, and you just keep peeling away layers, and when there are no layers left...there's no onion left. It's gone. The whole onion is an onion, not just the outer layers.

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Posted by: saviorself ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 04:06AM

Me -- BIC 5th generation, went inactive in 1959 at age 17, resigned in 1994 because I got irritated with Mormon meddling in Utah politics.

During the 53 years since I went inactive I have had exactly ONE contact from LDSinc. That was a phone call from the ward clerk telling me the bishop wanted to meet with me. I said that in the extremely remote chance that *I* ever wanted to meet with the bishop then I knew how to contact him, otherwise he should never contact me again. That was the last I ever heard from them.



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Posted by: Anonymous User ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 08:39AM

Resigning doesn't mean having your name removed.
You just get placed into a different category of 'member'.

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Posted by: romy ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 11:39AM

Stumbling Wrote:
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> Resigning doesn't mean having your name removed.
> You just get placed into a different category of
> 'member'.


Ugh. Does it at least mean not being counted in the # they throw out in general conf. anymore?

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Posted by: knotheadusc ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 08:41AM

My husband was a convert in 1997, but he officially resigned in 2006. And I got to be the one to greet the church official who came to our house.

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Posted by: The other Sofia ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 09:03AM

I've never resigned. It gives them power. It acknowledges that it means something. It doesn't. They've actually had to write to me to ask permission for my ex-husband to remarry in the Temple. Although, he never did. There is something funny in that to me. I went from be a TBM to knowing it was all a lie, a fraud. But they don't have cause to excommunicate me...well... unless they find out the extent of my heresies. They can't keep track of me out here in the Mission Field, so don't bother me. The last missionaries were afraid of me when I responded that "yes, a man could have written the BOM" and told them there were several inconsistent versions of the First Vision. So, all in all, I see it as recognizing their power. They are going to lie about their stats no matter what I do.

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Posted by: Lethbridge Reprobate ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 09:16AM

Not necessary. I'm 5th gen. BIC....quit going in 1971...still have friends, family in the MORG, plus, I don't care if I'm a member or not. My folks were VERY well known in the Lethbridge mormon community (HC ward RSP) but my inactivity and then marrying a Catholic NEVER changed the way they treated me, or my wife or my kids. So the church, any church for that matter is irrelevant.



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Posted by: Outcast ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 09:50AM

I just walked away. When I learned the truth that it was all a house of cards based on lies and deception, TSCC lost all credibility in my mind. My lack of participation/support had the same effect. Why bother?

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Posted by: CL2 ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 09:53AM

I wasn't going to jump through their hoops and had been inactive for over 16 years and a nonbeliever for about 8--and my TBM daughter had a little meltdown about why I couldn't forgive the lds church, but I could forgive her dad--and I knew I needed to draw a line in the sand for her. Not going back. No, I don't believe deep down. I chose the time carefully because I knew the bishop (and had known him for a long, long time) and I knew he'd leave me alone--which he did.

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Posted by: dgbard ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:01AM

BIC. Delivered my letter personally to the COB and was escorted out by security. New wife just got her letter and she submitted by email. Good riddance.

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Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:09AM

I haven't, they were so excited to see me leave, they held one of their kangaroo courts in order to make sure they removed my name for me.

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Posted by: Aaron Hines ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:18AM

I sent in my resignation letter via email last week, after reading about them padding their membership numbers. No real big thing for me since I was the only convert in my entire extended family, and I have only one TBM friend who will stay a friend no matter what church I go to. I just thought it was important that my statistic not be used to "prove" how big they are.

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Posted by: AnonyMs ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:21AM

It was my way of saying. I am not a Mormon.

I listed my adult children too. They were blessed but never baptized. No one bothers us.

I didn't want to be counted. I was BIC and pioneer heritage with polygamy etc.

I graduated from BYU........now if asked if I'm a member of TSCC I say NO.

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Posted by: cricket ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:22AM

having a cancerous tumor and all of its tentacles excised from my being. How to spell RELIEF? RESIGN!



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Posted by: notion ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:24AM

I'm with amos2 ... slowly drifted from TBM. Every phase had its meaning for me and was the right thing for me to do at that time. Tuning down the activity, saying no to new callings, fully resigning from old callings, going 'inactive', to finally resigning last month. Every step I took because I needed it.

Good luck with yours and speedy response!

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Posted by: Lost Mystic ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:32AM

I resigned.

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Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:39AM

I haven't resigned, but I haven't felt it was important. For a while I was terrified of taking that formal step toward perdition, but as time wore on it became an issue of parents and stuff. Eventually though, it just didn't matter. If they attack, I do have a letter already written and ready to mail...

Anyway, I gave whatever they asked of me when I was active. I placed them above and before my family in too many instances, they took and took and I never complained. When I saw the man behind the curtain, they tried to turn my family against me.

They don't deserve for me to ask permission to leave them.

Besides, resignation will only move my name to a new file with the word Apostate written on it, which every new Bishop will see.

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Posted by: EssexExMo ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:41AM

I haven't because I haven't felt the emotional need to do so.

I am quite happy to tell any unwanted visitors 'where to go'.

I am not convinced that Holland - and others - will start talking about "13,999,999 members around the world" simply due to my resignation

I feel it would be an acknowledgement that they hold some continuing power over me, to submit to *their* process, to remove me from *their* membership

{{{all views are entirely personal, and do not necessarily reflect how I view *other* people going through the resignation process}}}

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Posted by: Cheryl ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:49AM

The local mormons were tired of being rudely turned away and were scared of my husband. All we wanted was to be left alone and didn't know that resignation was an option.

The local bish who I'd never met sent a letter saying I had "asked to have my name removed." He said he was disappointed in me and sorry but I'd be losing blessings unless I came in for a meeting and asked for forgiveness.

DH's response was to go to the police and file a secondary harassment report. The chief sent the bish a letter telling him to never let any mormon on my property again. Then he sent an officer in a patrol car to explain the letter in case the bish couldn't understand it.

That's how I became a resigned former mormon.

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Posted by: romy ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 11:42AM

lol, prob scared the hell out of that bishop. That is my kind of resignation.

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Posted by: mcarp ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 10:56AM

I think I'm going to resign as part of Zilpha Larson's "Mass Resignation from Mormonism" effort on in June.

That may, however, be the end of my marriage, but that might be for the best anyway.

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Posted by: romy ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 11:45AM

mcarp Wrote:
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> I think I'm going to resign as part of Zilpha
> Larson's "Mass Resignation from Mormonism" effort
> on in June.
>
> That may, however, be the end of my marriage, but
> that might be for the best anyway.


I looked that up, looks cool. If you go you have to make sure to report back.

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Posted by: No Mo ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 11:06AM

I am actually quite astonished that more haven't.

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Posted by: Stunted ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 11:13AM

I sent a letter when my wife left me and ran home to her mother. It was an act of drawing a line in the sand. She came back and we started patching things up. She was absolutely in a panic about the resignation and begged me to take advantage of the 30 day back out clause.

I did.

However, in the letter I sent to the SP I made it very clear that I did not consider myself a member and I would not submit to any discipline etc. and I was more than happy to complete the resignation at anytime if he felt I should.

So I'm not a member because I don't consider myself a member. The church thinks I'm a member because my name is on their little list. I don't really give a rat's turd what they think anymore so at this point I don't think I'll do anything about it.

I told you I fit into all three categories and you didn't believe me did you?

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Posted by: Itsallclear ( )
Date: May 08, 2012 11:19AM

I plan on resigning in a few months, when I'm living a few thousand miles from tbm parents. For me, resigning means knowing I welk not have to worry about being scouted out every where I move, and being able to say I am officially not a member. While the church has no power over me, I look at it like a gym membership or belonging to a club; if you officially join (no matter how ridiculous the initiation), you should officially resign to be considered completely out.

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