My sister suffers from Tinnitus, and I get the occasional ringing in my ears so I occasionally read up on it. It can be a debilitating disorder and currently there is no established cure. The community of sufferers has seen a steady stream of scam artists come and go claiming to have miracle cures.

There is another one doing the rounds on the Internet right now. This one is actually called the Tinnitus Miracle and the criminals running this are claiming to cure about 95% of cases...completely.

Why do I suspect it is a scam? Because after scanning through 50 pages of google search results I cannot find a single negative review of the product. The criminals are saturating the Internet with fake websites, blogs, reviews and success stories. And they have probably flooded these websites hits prior to kicking off the scam so that positive commentary floods out anything negative.

This is how the church has gotten into the mess it is now. It has behaved like all scam artists. For years they have only told one side of the story to potential converts and to its members. The Internet will kill it off because they cannot go on for ever telling one side of the story. It, like this Tinnitus scam, will run its course and fade away.

Might want to check QuackWatch. It is the Snopes for snake oil. If they don't have an entry for it yet, maybe you can tip them off.

Not exactly the logic I would use, but, if you're comfortable with it, have at it.

because what he thinks is happening...IS happening...there is no 'cure" for tinnitus...i get it occasionally and it can drive ya nuts! Those companies do exactly what he describes...even with good products you will have some complaints...if you can find nothing but testimoneys and nothing negative...it is sure to be a scam!

I think you have this one pegged Simon!

just sayin

Ditto for cures for arthritis, Parkinsons, autism, and a whole long list of other intractable diseases and disorders. If there is a genuine miracle cure, it will be signaled years ahead in the medical literature, before it is approved for release to the public. You should be very suspicious of a cure "out of the blue".

This all falls under the rule "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." You know, like claiming you have a papyrus document written by Abraham himself.

Hello, why do you say the Tinnitus Miracle is a scam? Can you give me your thoughts?

I am new here and I am looking for various ways on how to cure the said problem (Tinnitus). Do you have any proven way.

Let's talk more. Happy to read your thoughts.

Cheers :)

LOL!

I can tell you one way you know it is a scam: if there really were a permanent cure for tinnitus---would it be controlled by one and only one group? Would only one group be able to say that they and only they have the answerr to one of medical science's persistent mysteries?

Even if one pharmaceutical company can lay claim to the fact that they discovered or generated a cure for one thing, or some pill which relieved a great deal of the symptoms someone suffering said disease has---just how long do you think it would take for another legit pharmaceutical firm to produce something similar, or come up with a generic that does the same thing?

They might not be able to sell it yet, due to licensing issues or patent issues with the original pill maker, but they would knwo about it, it would be appearing in legit peer-reviewed medical and science journals, it would be studied in labs and universities all over the place and whatever it was would be talked about in the NYT, your doctor would be sicussing it with you directly and telling you it would soon be on the market and available to you, etc.

It would NOT be sold out of the back pages of a magazine, only sold direct mail or door to door, or sold only online or ony through one group of salespeople via only one company.

That would be a little like claiming that the only real milk in the entire world is sold by Day's Dairy and no one else in the world has milk, despite owning tons of cows who are known to make their own milk, or knows how to identify milk, can call it milk, collect it, bottle it and sell it, or make pros off this miraculous "milk" they claim to be the one true purveyer of.


And, unless you know that people outside the manufacture, profiteering and sales of this so-called one true milk are actually using it, and getting real benefits from it--and not just claiming they are to get you to buy into the whole enterprise--then how do you know you are being told the real truth about theis "real milk" they wan you to buy from them?

You don't, which is why scientists always hide from their test subjects which ones are actually taking a drug or food, when observing them, and it is why the scientists themselves performing the tests also do not know which subjects are actually ingesting that pill or food.

People who know others benefit from saying yes, it works, especially if those people are sisters and brothers of sellers, or hope to sell and make money from theat same thing being sold, canot be relied upon to always tell the truth of their product's effectiveness. We are biased toward helping others we know and we are biased toward hiding the negatives of anything we ourselves like or use and feel very connected to.

Kinda like iPhone users ponying up for the next new iPhone, and paying more for it, because they are committed to the belief that iPhones and Apple are perfect, to the idea that something so costly and hard to get must naturally be the very best there is, and that I must believe everything else out there sucks eggs to justify and defend my own personal choice that iPhones are the only phone that matters.

In other words: where is the science, as tested and discussed ina legit, peer-reviewed journals, to show that this stuff works for the majority of the popel taking it? Was the sample of people tested on large enough to project out (extropolate) to larger groups of humans? Why is there not one person who used the product who found any fault with it, however minor, in any way?

Come on. Even people cured of cancer hate the radiation, the loss of their hair as a result, the chemo and have plenty to say about how awful that whole process is. And not one person said the product was expensive, hard to find, difficult to use, gave them one iota of difficulty or trouble? Not one?

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I can't tell you if it sounds familiar. My ears are ringing.

When Pete Townsend endorses it, I'll check it out. Right now

it's got Snake Oil written all over it.

She goes "huh" a lot and people get kinda p!$$ed at havin to repeat stuff but she says ringin is so loud she can't hear em.

Please be nice to your mom!!! I have hearing loss and my family is always pissed at me! You really can't help it. Just make sure your mother is looking at you when you talk to her. Crowded rooms? Forget it.

she has hearing aid but rarely uses it...that is the frustrating part...i never know when she has it in...so i do get frustrated with her for that...but she is still Ma...so i have to shut up and deal!! :) hey at 85 i guess i will thank my lucky stars I STILL HAVE HER AROUND! :)

just sayin!

I have a little cricket which lives constantly in my right ear and has for years. I guess I'm just used to it.

I too have an occasional nickering in my right ear. I know it's due to surgery, but it sounds like a nervous horse on an October night. There's a screaming behind the clicking. A raw, raspy, chain clanging sqwak. Sometimes at night it just goes wheeeeee, like the last little piggy, only without the ululation.

Weird, I have an ear cricket, too. I have had it since a child. I think it is the result of my brother hitting me in the ear, several times. The tinnitis didn't show up until my late forties. I was told there was no cure. (Except to stop people from hitting people in the head.)

Well, I've never had tinnitus, but that shouldn't deter me from opinionating *grin*.

Guess the site rules forbid me from characterizing michaelcures negatively, but when a brand new poster resurrects an ancient thread, makes one wonder.

Haha, even when I Google "tinnitus miracle SCAM", everything comes up glowing and wanting money!!

Then I had the bright idea to Google "tinnitus mayo", and got some good info assembled by the Mayo Clinic staff. Guess I could have tried wiki too.

A few times I attended meetings of various local chapters of Hearing Loss Association of America (HLAA), formerly Self Help for the Hard of Hearing (SHHH). That would be a good place to meet people in your locality who could give you their unvarnished impression of various clinicians in your locale.

Good to hear from Don Bagley, with or without ululating. ~~~~~

Thanks for the heads-up, because I have that too. A little cricket lives in my right ear and chirps all day long. I'm just used to it.

My ringing is probably the classic type, just a high constant pitch. It's mild enough that if I don't think about it, I forget it. There it is again!! Thanks for bringing it up....

I have ringing in both ears right now, but it's that little cricket which calls the most attention to itself.

I'm slightly hearing-impaired, so that's probably why I have it.

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In my case, I had rubella as an infant, and then I had really bad tonsillitis. All the high fevers I had when I was little damaged my ears, so I wear two hearing aids.

I don't know anything different. At least when the noises of the world bother me, I can just take out my hearing aids and the world goes away. Everything is nice and quiet.

Well, except for the cricket noise. But a lot of the time I don't even notice it, because I'm just used to it.

I suffered a hearing loss at Fort Bragg in 1969 and had tinnitus which gradually subsided and is now rarely a bother. I guess aging may, in some cases, reduce it. Also avoiding noises and getting enough sleep helps. About the only "cure" I can think of would be something which overwhelms the tinnitus by being louder. Right now I have it because I'm thinking about it.

For all those who suffer from Tinnitus, you have my sympathy. I get it on occasion and it drives me crazy. Mine is the high-pitched, constant whine. The only thing that I've found that helps is to cut back on my aspirin dosage when I take it. I used to take the extra-strength (975 mg) but now I take regular strength (650 mg) when needed. I also try to avoid loud noises.

A friend had tinnitus. She went to all kinds of specialists in CA and did all kinds of environmental testing (to see if something in her environment caused it). She was in her 40s and was going insane from it.

Come to find out, it was caused by her husband's cologne.

The VA supplies such hearing aids to veterans. They get good results from what I am told.

Yes, the hearing aids do help with it. It's definitely there more when I'm not wearing them.

I had the same experience... the "Miracle" purveyors have clearly sunk a great deal of resources into whitewashing their web presence. They have managed to get out in front of any web searches for "Tinnitus Miracle Scam" or "Tinnitus Miracle Fraud" and similar phrases by saturating the web with their own bogus sites, which ultimately just re-direct you to their product. It is amazingly thorough. I had to scroll through many pages before finding an honest discussion of the product that wasn't fake.

It's pretty sick, but comes as no surprise.

Doesn't it seem a bit hard for one group to "saturate" the whole internet with good reviews? Why would you put the effort of writing a 250 page book, do extensive research, then put good reviews and make fake blogs, spending hundreds of dollars, just to get 45$ a pop? It would be much easier to make an ear drop or something that claims to have healing abilities, but is just sugar water. It seems the more sensible decision (To a scammer) is to try to use the smallest amount of effort possible, to get the most money possible. Writing a whole book and saturating the internet seems like a hail of a lot of effort to me. Do you have any proof that it is a scam, other than your small amounts of evidence? Have you tried it? Have you heard anything from a real person? Likely not, and for a tinnitus sufferer, where the antagonizing ringing is constant, we begin to become desperate.

it has Serious social consequences....

if your S/O, children, boss, 'anyone' wants to speak/be understood... That's a PROBLEM.

Gf: what type of hearing aid do you have/use?

OTOH... if you don't want to hear what someone's saying....

There are different kinds of tinnitus and at least one kind can be treated effectively. Not by this quackery, but it's worth talking to a doctor if you have this problem.

Many years ago some local church leaders in my area went around trying to get people to invest in a coke mine (the kind used as a fuel for steel production). Their spiel was that all the world's coke mines were being depleted and that if they acted fast they could get in on the inevitable price hike. Several church members gave them money. Our bishop was the one who approached my father. My father had worked in the steel industry for several years and just happened to mention that there is no such thing as a coke mine and that coke is manufactured by every single steel mill right at the site as needed.

Why, oh why are Mormons so prone to this kind of scam?

I have severe tinnitus. It is really a hard thing to live with. I also had to learn that the miracle cures are just scams. On top of the screaming in my head I lost a lot of money. The scammers get you on auto pay, send you the sugar pills every month, and then make it really hard to cancel. I couldn't believe that they would just lie to you like that and charge you a boatload of money.