Posted by:
helamonster
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Date: December 16, 2010 05:18PM
Yeah, I said it.
Let me explain myself.
Mormonism has such strict, puritanical rules regarding human sexual conduct, it can't help but fuck with the minds of members. LGBT people who grow up mormon are demonized entirely, mormon women are treated like a sexual commodity that is at once both valuable if "unspoiled" and too dangerous to make their own decisions (but are blamed by some church members for their own rapes, as described by another poster. The church is so obsessed with sex, that it can't even see rape as the violent act it is, and regards it in the same light as consensual sex. How backward is that?). Even hetero mormon men are mindfucked by the masturbation issue and worthiness interviews. Upon leaving mormonism, it is almost inevitable that the former mormon will have some healing to do in regard to his/her sexuality.
A big part of that healing involves discussion of sex, and talking about previously taboo sexual issues in a way that smashes taboos. In particular, if a gay or lesbian exmo needs to do some intense healing - as they have most certainly been made to feel worthless simply for being who they are - then part of their sexual and self-esteem therapy may necessarily be to be "out, loud and proud".
Simply put, if GayLayAle starts sex threads, it is far less about preoccupation than it is about healing, and about feeling normal and part of the human community by discussing something that is a part of his identity.
When I was mormon, I didn't regard gays and lesbians as wicked people, as many mormons seem to. But I would frequently say, "You don't see happy gays or lesbians, do you? It's because they oppose God's Law." First, I didn't really know many LGBT people, so I had no right to make that pronouncement. Second, it never occurred to me until I left mormonism, that it might have been attitudes like mine that contributed to any perceived unhappiness in gays or lesbians I DID encounter. Finally, I realized that LGBT people are no more or less happy than anyone else. But I also decided I could be a helluva lot more understanding by simply being okay with who LGBT folks are, and being okay with their stating who they are.
And in regard to women, well, they've received multiple mind-fuckings and levels of cultural repression of their sexuality, just by having the misfortune of being born into western judaeo-islamo-christian society. Somehow, with millenia of cultural overlay, we've managed to convince many women that they don't *really* have their own sexual urges, but should submit to the urges of their husband, after they find the right man. Going back again to the other poster describing a bishop who blamed her for her own rape, I think this reveals an extremely patriarchal attitude that regards women as property, and mere appendages of either their fathers or their husbands. And ultimately, such an attitude is based upon patriarchal need to ensure rights of property, inheritance and lineage. One needs only to see that the ancient Hebrews not only stoned adultresses to death, but rape victims, too, to see my point. Even though modern DNA testing has obviated much of that patriarchal desperation, the attitudes unfortunately remain.
But the truth is, women have a very deep, powerful sexuality, once they shed their social conditioning/brainwashing.
(Check out books like Sperm Wars for futher info on the following) There was one study I remember reading about that studied the physical, sexual response to various visual stimuli in both genders and in straight and gay orientations (can't recall details about the study and am too lazy to Google at the moment; it should be easy enough to find). The findings were very telling. Gay males, hetero males and lesbians all had the responses you might predict. They all responded to the "appropriate" visual stimuli (gay males liked gay porn, hetero males liked straight porn, etc.) as measured by genital blood flow, didn't respond to the visual stimuli that you would not expect them to respond to, and they largely reported the same levels of stimulation as the blood flow indicated.
However....
When studying the hetero women, something VERY interesting was discovered. The hetero women *reported* only being stimulated by straight porn (and leaned toward the "softer" variety), but their genital blood flow indicated sexual stimulation by ALL forms of visual stimuli, whether it be straight porn, gay porn, bestiality, soft core bathing suit shots of either sex, etc. What this might indicate is that the story about men being naturally promiscuous, but women being naturally picky is largely fiction.
Women who leave mormonmism are likely to get more in touch with their own sexual nature, and may in fact leave a lot of mainstream cultural sexual norms behind.
That might also warrant discussion on this board.
The bottom line is, if you don't like it, don't click on the thread, and don't whinge like an idiot about it, either. It's not rocket surgery, people!