Recovery Board  : RfM
Recovery from Mormonism (RfM) discussion forum. 
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In
Posted by: twojedis ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 08:22PM

Our friend told us that his friend's daughter, who is attending BYU, related a sacrament meeting warning given by her bishop. Apparently, there is a big problem among BYU students with a new activity called "gazing". Presumably, you get nekkid with a member of the opposite sex and gaze at each other. Sounds like a dumb idea to me, but it's enough of a problem that they are addressing it in the BYU wards!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: rosemary ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 08:31PM

How unfun is that?!!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 08:37PM

It was a common practice in some encounter group
sessions I recall from the 1970s.

But, in those cases, the "gazing" was conducted under
the supervision of a trained group leader and was
done for the purpose of breaking down individuals'
self-defenses against group sharing.

It gets rather boring after the first five minutes.
Like being turned lose in a nudist colony filled with
people who are either fat, skinny or too ugly to
sustain much interest.

Sound like something Mormons might try doing as an
ignorant form of teenage rebellion, I suppose.

UD



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/28/2012 10:39PM by Susan I/S.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: forbiddencokedrinker ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 08:43PM

The sad part, in Mormonism, this would be a sin, even for Married couples, since they wouldn't be wearing their garments.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Don Bagley ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 08:47PM

At my age gazing would be about as much as I could handle. As for those young students, I suspect they're using the braille method.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: The exmo formerly known as Br. Vreeland ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:49PM


Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: ozpoof ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 08:59PM


Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: footdoc ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:00PM

dude, tell me they are at least mutually masturbating!!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: twojedis ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:38PM

Not that I'm aware of. Boring!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: twojedis ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:48PM

It reminds me of Jews in Israel. Their scriptures state that no swine shall be raised on the soil of Israel. So, they build platforms and raise pigs on them.

Options: ReplyQuote
Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: dagny ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:13PM

Those poor kids. They try so hard to think up ways to have sex without having sex. It's torture...but funny.

It's hilarious to watch them do things to work around the rules. I'm temple worthy...I only gazed, dry humped, had @nal and oral sEx, but I'm a virgin!

Now when I think of JS "gazing" with a PEEP stone, it has new meaning. :-)

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Carol Y. ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:14PM


Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: notsurewhattothink ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:15PM

Mmm, wow...

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: JoD3:360 ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:18PM


Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: rainwriter ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:31PM

I remember hearing about that a handful of years ago from a friend with a young teenaged daughter. Apparently that was on the activities list for a party her daughter was at.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: dogeatdog ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:40PM

Ha ha ha ha ha ha

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: WinksWinks ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 09:51PM

Considerably more innocent than the "soaking" I read about here a year or three ago!

:D :D :D

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: fidget ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:37PM

Yeah reading the definition of soaking on urbandictionary made me want to barf.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: notanymore ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:55PM

now i just looked it up. is that really common with mormons? whats the point?

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: fidget ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:57PM

Apparently it's all the rage. They aren't having 'actual' sex because they Aren't moving.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: grubbygert ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 01:49AM


Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: bingoe4 ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:28PM

I've heard of mormon "docking" Erect penis in a vaj but no movement. It isn't sex if there is no movement.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: ragingphoenix ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:59PM

Lol!!!

I would suspect it takes some movement to initiate a docking.

I guess TBMs are so used to mental gymnastics that they can rationalize anything!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: justrob ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 12:27AM

I'm sure you've heard the BYU / Utah-Youth slogan:

Stay Moral, keep it Oral.

...so Gazing is far less "problematic" than oral (or Docking [which I had never heard of]).

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: WinksWinks ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 08:38AM

Docking has another meaning altogether than what it is being used for in this instance. I heard it called "soaking" which at least distinguishes it from the other sex act act that is "docking".
*snerk* at ignorant kids calling it this...

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: rationalguy ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:29PM

Shenanigans like this aren't new. These occurred in the 1960's in Happy Valley:

When I was about 14, a neighbor girl who was really streetwise and brassy would get naked and let the local boys masturbate to her in a back shed. The rule was, no touching! She wasn't Mormon, but some of the boys were. I wasn't asked to participate, and was rather sad about it....

Another time a different girl, high school age, (from a quite wealthy Provo Mormon family) would allow boys to play tennis with her while she was naked. Again, the rule was the same.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/28/2012 10:31PM by rationalguy.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: nickname ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:37PM

I go to BYU, and I've never heard of it.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: notanymore ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:43PM

i'm having a hard time believing this, because if two young college students are getting naked just to look at each other there would be a lot more than just "gazing" going on.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: rationalguy ( )
Date: August 28, 2012 10:59PM

I bet it has happened before but likely not a mass phenomenon. It's a juicy story very amenable to mass hysteria memeage or urban legend. Just the sort of thing a bishop would flag on and get all panicky about!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/28/2012 11:11PM by rationalguy.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: Makurosu ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 01:45AM

I wouldn't have enough self-control for these fetishes, especially in my early 20s. How do you propose something like "gazing" to another person? "Hey, I know. After family home evening, let's take all our clothes off and stare at each other and not touch. It'll be fun. Everybody's doing it." No touching? I don't know.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: notanymore ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 02:09AM

LOL!

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: nickname ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 02:12AM

Hmm... maybe thats not all the guy actually has in mind when he suggests it...

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: liminal state ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 01:36AM

Makes Utah County feel even more like a bad episode of The Twilight Zone.

Options: ReplyQuote
Posted by: ginger ( )
Date: August 29, 2012 02:22AM

Before my TBM BIL got married, he and his fiancee would make out in their swimsuits all the time. He told my DH about it. They only knew each other for two months by the time they got married. It wasn't about the sex though. At least that's what they claim.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/29/2012 02:23AM by ginger.

Options: ReplyQuote
Go to Topic: PreviousNext
Go to: Forum ListMessage ListNew TopicSearchLog In


Sorry, you can't reply to this topic. It has been closed. Please start another thread and continue the conversation.