I just couldn't let the last thread die on the note that it did. After asking member "larry john" to elaborate on a previous post of his where he mentions dealing with the LDS church with regards to mental illness and medication...etc, I received this heartfelt pouring out of his soul, IMHO. I was very moved by the whole story and felt the need to continue the conversation somewhat, if necessary. I apologize if this is abuse of forum rules. It was explained to me it was normal for threads to get closed after a certain length, and to just start a new one on the subject, so here goes...

Quoted from "larry john", October 11, 2012 10:27AM
"Hi Judgrey, the answer to your question is the lds church could not accept my behavior drug free, glowing at first like an arch angel until crushed by their false humility, that triggered original nervous breakdown and major depression.

After taking medication, it worked, but its side affects work like viagra and lost my virginity at 23 while at uni, tho repented off that, and was demanded to go on mission by arrogant stake pres who rang me and told me Ide go to hell if i rejected.... It cost me my musical education and later another nervous breakdown on my mission, while on the medication because another side affect to medication called stellizine was the cravings then for alcohol to flush it through my system and the only thing to work to ease the constipation affect of the drug after trying everything else.


My mission pres allowed me to have non alcoholoic carbonated beer tho my mission companion spat the dummy and thought the lds church had flipped its lid....

Stability at any cost is the church image, so that drug, plus legal drugs of smoke/drink in moderation, tea/coffie I was not only normal but loving, humble and gave the most beautifal prayers and rose up the ladder of lds..

Then I decided years later to stop the legal drugs that was easy by giving up the prescribed medication. Not only was I accused of being on drugs when drug free, but I was accused of demonic possessed and terminated for attending church for 7 years just because I had some nervous twitch and paranoia as my depression at mature age was far from positive like it was in old days, when I could turn depression into fantasy of being the king of the world and had hollywood looks. Now I'm a fat bugger, tho hard as nails like I just got out of jail.

No one messes with me while I'm on drugs because I can see it comming and smart enough to stop the disastors knowing exactly what to say.... Tho the lds church messes with me when not on th legal drugs and prescribed medication, and the terrorist behaviour comes out in me and suicidal self..

all I ever needed was a hug and welcome into the ward/stake

That never happened here in dianella temple stake Perth western australia because of the son of the man who demanded me go on a mission that led to prior and after a nervous breakdown, and for a few others sucicide by pressured by this man, now his son just rose up the ladder to stake pres just like his father and god allowed it was the straw the ended it for me.

it broke my marrige and I went astray, sin like never before
and a revelation came to pass, tho was promised in righousness fertility child, but as a couple was infertile as hell, but the sin out of wedlock gave me the mirical child to a woman in a village in asia.. I have never been so fulfilled to have and responsible financially for this child...

Tho I love two woman, the mother of my child who I am not married to, is also a soul mate but I'm working on it not being physical out of marrige, let alone become sexless as the woman I'm married to there is no physical also. But while with the mother of child, I never needed drugs to cope tho could have them if wanted to..

The lds church firstly said with light and revelation to marry her then when found out my wife forgave me of adultary the revelation changed, dark cloud come over them with warning I go to hell if devoice this saintly wife of mine. I was also told by another bishop to have my balls cut off and save my marrige
and live a sexless life there was still a chance for me and to knock the child out of marrige on the head and let the bugger die in poverty, its a sinful situation..

I disagree and believe god allowed the devil to tempt me and it all became possible when I was terminated, drug free from the church and then let loose, relaxed and then the belief I would bare that child to a mother came to pass...

The filthy rags of mormon rightousness never worked for me.
Its a pharisee relegion that damages self-esteeem and robs self worth....

christians catch the fish first and christ cleans them
mormons clean the fish first and the devil catches them

hope this helps you judgrey.

Larry perth australia."

WOW Larry. Wow.
That was quite story to say the least. Although I didn't understand quite all of it at first read, I'll be reading it again for sure. You definitely have a testament that should be heard by people who may be struggling with the same problems. I can only just imagine what it would be like to have the threat of your immortal soul burning for eternity by the Mormon church of all people. I've mentioned before that I would try to be as diplomatic as possible while on these boards, that I have no personal agenda for this forum other than to learn, but it makes my blood boil a little reading something like that. I know also these boards aren't for preaching any other religion, but, as a Christian, I'll give my opinion that as far as your soul goes, the Catholic church has no say on where it will end up, Protestant churches have no say either on where it will end up. So I can say with absolute CERTAINTY, willing to put my life any anyone I LOVE's life on it, that the Latter Day Saints sure as HELL (pardon the pun) DO NOT have a say in it! That is between you and GOD. /end of preach.

I'm gonna hope, and pray, from what I've read from you Larry that you're in a good place now. Like I said, I didn't understand all of it your situation, but it seems like you came out the other end OK. You seem like the type of guy with a good head on his shoulders. I'll leave it at that.

I sincerely thank you for the post. I hope you take care and hope for nothing but the best for you in the future. No more "terrorist" behavior now eh? Honestly though, I'll probably never forget that story.

Andre