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Posted by: 2humble4u ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 04:56PM

Watch this turn into a creationist/evolution food fight...



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/23/2013 04:58PM by 2humble4u.

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Posted by: devilsadvocate ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 04:58PM

Chicken, according to my dictionary.

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Posted by: tumwater ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 06:36PM

Pollo o huevo, according to a spanish dictionary.

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 04:59PM

Well if god is organizing it from the dust than the chicken. If we are talking about evolution, the DNA that resulted in the chicken would have been a result of conception so the egg was first.

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Posted by: Carrots Tomatoes and Radishes ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 02:32AM

Case closed

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Posted by: The Oncoming Storm - bc ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:03PM

More importantly when you are making a ham and egg sandwich which layer goes first, the ham or the egg?

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Posted by: The Oncoming Storm - bc ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:46PM

Clearly it was the egg.

Reasoning:
Egg's are for breakfast, chicken is for dinner.

Breakfast comes before dinner.

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Posted by: Carrots Tomatoes and Radishes ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 02:33AM

Haha +1

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Posted by: Awake In Tucson ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:04PM

It was probably some partially feathered lizardy chickeny kind of thing with scales, a toothed beak, a stubby tail, and would lay eggs...which contained something ever-so-slightly more chickeny.

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:09PM

Not false just irrelevant. Since in biology there is a generalized tendency to categorize, before it was a chicken it wasn't a chicken. Granted pinpointing the exact time that a chicken became a chicken is pointless, but understanding that it hasn't always been a chicken is a nice piece of information to have.

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Posted by: Tupperwhere ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:37PM

both!

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:45PM

I second jacob's and Awake In Tucson's idea.
A creature laid an egg and it hached, and laid an egg, and so forth until the egg thingy became more and more a chicken.
Ham comes before egg on a sandwich.

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Posted by: skyfall ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:48PM

The egg and i can prove it dinasours were laying eggs long bef9re chickens evolved

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Posted by: The Oncoming Storm - bc ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 05:52PM

Nice!

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Posted by: sparkyguru ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 06:02PM

the lizard laid an egg n out popped a chicken!!

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Posted by: Tupperwhere ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 06:38PM

lol video please?

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Posted by: sparkyguru ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 02:13AM

it is a really long video over a really long time, as homeless to borrow his time machine we will go back to exodus 20 and watch it together !

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Posted by: Don Bagley ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 06:52PM

That's the answer to the question you should have asked.

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Posted by: BeenThereDunnThatExMo ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 08:18PM

Silly you...when are you gonna realize that it all depends upon the whether the earth's rotation is slowing down 0.005 seconds per year or not multiplied by the rate that it was slowing down if rolled back by 4.6-billion years!

Just where the heck have you been living under a rock or something lately!!!

Or so it seems to me...

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Posted by: Gordon Guymon ( )
Date: January 23, 2013 08:31PM


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Posted by: sparkyguru ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 02:18AM

told ya, watch my video in fast forward and squint a little and you will see i was right :D

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Posted by: sparkyguru ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 02:19AM

actually shouldn't we be worrying about where the lizard came from?

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Posted by: bird 'n bees ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 02:24AM


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Posted by: grubbygert nli ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 02:48AM

'a chicken is an egg's way of becoming other eggs'

Alan Watts

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Posted by: victoria ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 06:31AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pddEdNIwdtA&feature=share&list=UU_DMYtVru_p2MHFgSrHNbRw

This is a great video on youtube by David Mills on the subject.

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 09:32AM

Protozoa.

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Posted by: amos2 ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 11:52AM

Amphibians started laying eggs on land long before the dinosaurs.
Eggs are merely a form of gestation. A chicken does not "come from" an egg. An embryo is sheltered by an egg...but the embryo itself exists apart from the egg and its dependence on the egg is only for a head start in development.
That represents the hypothetical possibility of the embryo developing WITHOUT the egg (I mean egg in the chicken-egg sense, not "egg" as in an ovum...different "egg").
Since it's hypothetically possible for a chicken embryo to develop with some surrogate means besides an egg, it follows that the egg itself is not the ultimate source of the chicken. The embyro was formed by the fusion of an ovum and sperm...otherwise called "gametes" which are a lifecycle state produced by meiosis, which is the mixing and then separation of the (usually 2) sets of parent DNA (there are some organisms, ie some plants, that the mature form is a gamete, and the combined-DNA form we are is only a secondary transient form for them...to reproduce).
So, a chicken comes from the gametes of of a mom and dad chicken.
Duh.
But removing the egg itself as a necessary condition removes the argument that some third party MUST have CAUSED either the original chicken and rooster or the original egg.
The truth is that all chickens came from parent chickens, not eggs. Knowing that each generation of chickens has progressively divergant DNA gives us a mechanism for the evolution of chickens from earlier ancestors. It's simple. each generation is slightly different than the last. Over many generations they are majorly different, and after enough generations they aren't even chickens anymore.
If we doubt this hypothetical mechanism...we can go look at fossils and observe the transition from ancestral forms to modern forms, to name one way of testing the theory.

As for eggs, they evolved progressively as egg-layers did. Their fossils are out there too. There were no chickens when amphibians first laid eggs on land, but we can observe the progressive advent of bird fossils and their eggs evolving from early amphibians.

The irony of the "which came first" question is that it is SO answerable. It's not even hard. Creationists will act like it's some big enigma, a huge stumbling block that confounds science in its tracks.
Well science is confounded all the time...but not by that.

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Posted by: EXON46 ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 12:02PM

So your saying that I should put the egg on my bread before I put the ham on it? Shoot I've been doing it all wrong all this time.

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Posted by: PapaKen ( )
Date: January 24, 2013 12:09PM

Neither one cared who came first. They had a good time & had a smoke together afterwards.

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