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Posted by: Uncle Dale ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 10:38PM

first:

1. Let's face it -- nobody leaves the Church because they one
day decide that General Moroni was a character created by
Solomon Spalding. And nobody abandons their mission after a
year, because some investigator convinces them that Sidney
Rigdon lied about not knowing Joseph Smith prior to 1830.

These are not the reasons people abandon Mormonism. They are
not the reason why my mentors, Vernal Holley and Ted Chandler
(dedicated Spalding researchers) left the LDS Church. They
are not the reason that I (host of SolomonSpalding.com) left
Community of Christ.

Spalding-Rigdon is like a sherbet side-dish, following a
steak dinner. It may taste good, after the main course,
but it is not the reason you consumed the meal.

and:

2. And even more important -- non-Mormons don't care. The
scholars, the historians, the evangelical anti-LDS fanatics,
and the everyday man-in-the-street don't care WHY Joe Smith
succeeded as a con man; they are content just to realize
that he does not dominate their lives.

Accepting the Spalding-Rigdon authorship claims means that
Joseph Smith must be demoted to a lower status in history.
That demotion (to fellow co-conspirator) removes a very
important LDS icon. People like to hang their hats on such
an icon, and move on to talking about what really interests
them. Re-arranging Mormon pre-history would be a messy job;
too many books would have to be re-written; too many world
views would have to be altered; too many interactions with
institutional Mormonism would have to be "unplugged."

Many folks can vote for a Mitt Romney who just happens to
be a member of a church ostensibly started by an old-time
American genius -- a self-deluded polygamist, perhaps, but
a religious Tom Edison, a theological Charles Lindbergh.

Who would vote for a Mitt Romney who was a participant in
a conspiracy begun in the 1820s, to establish the political
Kingdom of God on earth -- a conspiracy that began with a
fake bible, designed to fool regular Christians into a
theocratic cult, that has meticulously covered up its past?

Best to "leave sleeping dogs lie" undisturbed. Fawn Brodie
provided an origin theory that everybody today can live
with, Mormon and non-Mormon.

And, to paraphrase Martin Harris -- "What if it is a fraud?
If you'll just leave us alone, we can make money off it!"

Uncle Dale

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Posted by: Facsimile 3 ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 11:45PM

Well put.

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Posted by: me ( )
Date: March 12, 2013 11:54PM

Aah, Dale. I knew that you would put a reverse twist on it. LOL. Yes, there is a malignancy in it that the evangelicals just don't get.

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Posted by: Stray Mutt ( )
Date: March 13, 2013 08:15AM

I left the church because of how I experienced it, because of how it messed me up and made me miserable, because of how on a subconscious level, I didn't believe any of it. All the facts and theories of it's origins came much later, and I wasn't surprised or shocked.

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Posted by: me ( )
Date: March 13, 2013 08:26AM

The argument needs to be gentler to penetrate TBM denial. Later, the individual will explore deeper, and then reach the "never go back" stage.

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