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Posted by: homoerectus ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 04:34PM
What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church? (n/t)


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Posted by: homoerectus ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 04:34PM
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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/30/2013 04:35PM by homoerectus.

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Posted by: exrldsgirl ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 04:38PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

The LDS church and Catholic church are set up so differently that I don't think you can really compare their clergy's positions in any meaningful way.

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Posted by: tig ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 04:53PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

If I were trying to compare I would got with the 1st quorum of the 70 as beeing the equivalent of a cardinal.

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Posted by: Turd ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 05:49PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

Here's what I would say (with some variation in relative power between levels):

Prophet = Pope
Apostle = Cardinal
Seventy = Archbishop
Regional Rep = Bishop
Bishop = Priest

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Posted by: summer ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 06:47PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

Here's my take:

Prophet - Pope
Apostle -- The Curia (Vatican insiders)
1st Quorum of the 70 -- Cardinals
2nd Quorum of the 70 (area 70's?) -- archbishops
Stake President -- bishop
Stake Presidency -- monsigneur
Bishop -- priest

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Posted by: SusieQ#1 ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 07:01PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

summer Wrote:
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> Here's my take:
>
> Prophet - Pope
> Apostle -- The Curia (Vatican insiders)
> 1st Quorum of the 70 -- Cardinals
> 2nd Quorum of the 70 (area 70's?) -- archbishops
> Stake President -- bishop
> Stake Presidency -- monsigneur
> Bishop -- priest


This sounds like a comprehensive equivalent of the ecclesiastical authority comparison of both churches.

The General Authorities include:
President/First Presidency/First Quorum of Seventy Presidency/First Quorum of Seventy

There are more Seventies listed, and I expect to see more added.

Here are the LDS Church leaders listed in the top leadership. Pictures included! :-)
http://www.lds.org/church/leaders?lang=eng

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Posted by: cludgie ( )
Date: May 31, 2013 10:00AM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

That's great! I think you're right. Now do the same thing for the Orthodox church.

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Posted by: illinoisnevermo ( )
Date: May 31, 2013 11:45AM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

The Orthodox Church is not centralized like the Catholic or LDS Churches, and there is no pope/prophet authority figure. There is an honorary position given to the "Ecumenical Patriarch" but it isn't an authority position. He's more like a grandfather to the Orthodox Church throughout the world.

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Posted by: wellsville ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 05:50PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

120 voting cardinals for greater than 1billion catholics worldwide
Compared to quorum of 70 for 15million total lds

A catholic cardinal has coverage for 10 million catholics except in italy which has close to 30 cardinals but usa for 100million catholics has less than 10 voting cardinals

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Posted by: ASteve ( )
Date: May 31, 2013 03:44PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

7 million mormons, the 15M total that they claim includes a million or so non-existent/dead "people" and 7 million ex mormons.

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Posted by: exmojoe ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 06:07PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

Preacher position

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Posted by: jacob ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 06:32PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

They would be vicars, in the sense that their authority is temporary and representative. They do not hold any actual authority unless directed by the quorum of the twelve. I guess you could call them apostolic vicars.

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Posted by: Jonny the smoke ( )
Date: May 30, 2013 06:39PM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

69....?

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Posted by: GQ Cannonball ( )
Date: May 31, 2013 12:00AM
Re: What position is the equivalent of a 'Seventy' in the Catholic church?

JtS, You beat me to it!

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