Tried that--didn't work maybe someone will tell me where to find Eric's email address
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Dear Eric, Do you have a way to private message me? I have compiled a 2+page list of opposite beliefs of Christians and Mormons. Also I have an 18 page compilation of reasons why Mormonism cannot be true. (I sent some of them to Richard Packham and he complimented me on things I found which he had never thought of.) I would love to forward both to you to print or use however you think
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Because of Jeremiah 23:20-21 Where God says He never spoke to the Latter Day Prophets and never sent them. And also Jeremiah 7:15 where God says He has "cast out the whole seed of Ephraim" Hummmmmmm????
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Doesn't the Constitution provide "Equal Protection Under the Law? So: If a man does not want to give a pint of his blood to save the life of someone who is bleeding to death, he doesn't have to. Even if he is the only one who can do it. He cannot be forced to give it even if it will take 10 minutes of his time and a single pint of blood. There are no penalties for his refusal. But
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Just so you know, there is a prophecy in the Bible about the "Latter Day Prophets" See Jeremiah 23:20-21 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: In the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly. I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied. Wh
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Part one The name of the church The name of the Church Alma 1:7 Alma 1:19 Alma 2:4 Alma 4:4 Alma 4:9 Alma 5:3 Alma 5:5 Alma 8:23 Alma 27:27 Alma 36:6 Alma 36:9 Alma 46:10 Alma 46:14 Alma 62:46M Mosiah 18:17 Mosiah 25:22, 23, 24 Mosiah 27:9, 10, 13 Helaman 3:26, 33 Helaman 5:35 Helaman 6:3 D&C 70:5, 10 D&C 82:18 D&C 84:
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Did you know in the days of Jeremiah, God included a prophecy that is just now being fulfilled? Good old Rusty had to change the name of the church so Jeremiah's prophecy could be fulfilled. Sorry for the way the lines copied. Jeremiah 23:20-21 The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: In the latter days ye
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The name of the Church: according to the following Mormon Scriptures, the name of the church is "Church of God Alma 1:7 Alma 1:19 Alma 2:4 Alma 4:4 Alma 4:9 Alma 5:3 Alma 5:5 Alma 8:23 Alma 27:27 Alma 36:6 Alma 36:9 Alma 46:10 Alma 46:14 Alma 62:46M Mosiah 18:17 Mosiah 25:22, 23, 24 Mosiah 27:9, 10, 13 Helaman 3:26, 33 Helaman 5:35 Hela
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I can only add that you should debunk their use of the word "testimony". The usual "I KNOW" blah, blah, blah is NOT a testimony. It is a statement. According to the dictionary, a testimony is where you explain HOW you know that what you stated is actually true. One of the biggest lies the Mormon church teaches is that feelings trump facts. You might ask a quest
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The reason I believe that Jesus rose from the dead goes like this. He appeared to the 11 remaining apostles and about 120 other followers over a period of 40 days. See 1st chapter of Acts. Of the 11 apostles, only John did not die a horrible death. Given the choice of a hugely suffering death or recanting, none of them recanted. John was thrown into a big pot of boiling oil whic
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I think this proves he was lying: Complete apostasy: Joseph Smith said the true church had been withdrawn into Heaven and he, himself had been ordained by God to restore it. However, if you believe that, and you believe the BOM story of the three Nephites (III. Nephi, 28) and the D&C statement that the Apostles John and Peter are still alive (D&C 7) you must eith
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Because KJV is the ONLY version that has someone named Elias in it. Elias is the Greek version of Elijah. In D&C 107 Joseph (who didn't know better) said he had a vision of Elias and no sooner had that vision faded, but the notable prophet Elijah appeared upon the scene..... Except that they are the same guy. You will not find the name Elijah or Jeremiah, or Isaiah in the KJV New test
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I have never heard a Mormon testimony. I have heard many statements of "I know this, that. or the other. I have never heard the "testimony" part. Per Webster's dictionary, a testimony is "statements given in support of a statement. I have had some fun asking, after the fact, how come they never got to the testimony part, and watching them squirm realizing they had NO
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Dear tmg, You do know that feelings are not facts. It's like your 14 year old daughter Knowing she is in love because some boy kissed her. Joseph Smith called God a liar. I do not believe a true prophet of God would do that. Alma 34:36 says, “And this I know, because the Lord hath said he dwelleth not in unholy temples, but in the hearts of the righteous doth he dwell;” II. Cor. 6:
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Very good Ziller Many thanks
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I say Richard Packham
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The real reason is this: The KJV has a MAJOR translation error that none of the other translations have. Joseph didn't know the difference and made some amazing errors in the D&C because of his ignorance. To whit: In the N.T. the KJV translates every mention of the O.T prophet Elijah as Elias (which is the Greek version of Elijah) In the KJV there is NO O.T. prophet named Elias and
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A friend who happened to be employed at the prison told me that the church did NOT want to go to trial. They told Mark to plead guilty, go quietly to prison for life and his family would be "well cared for" in return. Mark told my friend that "they" hinted that if the church leaders had to testify in court, they would "take care of" his family in a different ma
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I believe Americans are supposed to have "Equal Protection" under the law. Right? We currently have laws that say EVEN IF someone needs a kidney and you are the ONLY person whose DNA is a perfect match, you cannot be forced to donate a kidney to save them. EVEN IF we are only talking about a pint of blood to save a life, if YOU don't want to give it, no one can take it or force y
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I'm a nevermo. Married to a TBM. The problem of the virgin birth used to bother me, until, several years ago I saw a photo in the newspaper. It seems a horse had just given birth to a baby zebra via embryo transplant. The mare thought it was her baby. In a lightbulb moment, I realized the virgin birth was probably the method used. Suppose for an instant, that God Himself put hea
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Ummmm. My understanding is that the Bible teaches we are NOT children of God, we are His creation. As usual, Mormonism teaches the opposite of the Bible. The souls within us can be adopted as children of God through faith in Jesus so our souls can join Him in heaven. Sometimes our earthly bodies get destroyed, but the "real" us lives forever.
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Thank you, thank you, Elder Old Dog! You are my HERO
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OH! Valkyriequeen, I've been trying to find the rest of your post. I think one of the lines was "The vessel with the pestle holds the potion with the poison" but I think there were two more lines..... do you remember them?
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Joseph Smith called God a liar. I do not believe a true prophet of God would do that. Alma 34:36 says, “And this I know, because the Lord hath said he dwelleth not in unholy temples, but in the hearts of the righteous doth he dwell;” II. Cor. 6:16, “And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, �
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Joe Smith claimed he had a vision His story created division How sad for his wives It ruined their lives He ought to have been sent to prison A wiley con man named B. Young Could charm with the flick of his tongue. When Joseph Smith died, Brigham Young filled with pride And to Utah he lead the unstrung. An angel appeared with a sword. With a message (he said) from the Lord. (Bet
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I love that! You have talent.
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In my observation, most Mormons have never thought deeply about the truth claims of their religion. They have been raised to believe (know) that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. But if you try to find out “how they know” you will quickly become enmeshed in a circular argument with no way out of the verbal maze. The critical factor in talking to a Mormon is to get them to think: really
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The most damning thing is this: Joseph claimed that God sent an angel with a drawn sword to command him to practice polygamy. The angel supposedly told Joseph that if he didn't comply, he would be destroyed. So why do you think God would be willing to sacrifice 1/3 of his spirit children over the doctrine of "agency" and then decide that it was ok to take away Joseph's agency? A
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OK. Take a deep breath. The Constitution of the United States proclaims "equal protection under the Law." So, as I understand it, in the U.S. nobody has the right to demand that another person give/donate/surrender any part of their body EVEN IF the person demanding said body part will die without it, and EVEN IF it is only a pint of blood. Obviously, a kidney, lobe of liver, b
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