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Nightingale
Hi catnip and Sus: I didn't get a chance to answer your posts on a previous thread before it was closed, here: https://www.exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,2398531,2398646#msg-2398646 Then time slipped by but here I am now. I had mentioned enjoying books featuring forensics, in particular Kathy Reichs and her characters Temperance Brennan and her partner Andrew Ryan (now retired from the p
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2 days ago
Nightingale
Dragon Man is actually looking pretty good. Obviously I need to get out more. But. COVID.
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2 days ago
Nightingale
You should be able to edit your post for 24 hrs after posting. After that you can ask Admin to do it.
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3 days ago
Nightingale
Or courts of public opinion Or tennis courts even
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3 days ago
Nightingale
Wow. Excellent one, EOD. Indeed there were no exceptions to following blackout regs, for the good of the entire community, and if people wished to survive close air attacks they would dash to the nearest blackout shelters when the warning sirens wailed no matter how disruptive it all could be. I can understand the imperative for devoted churchgoers to go to church, by definition, but surely th
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4 days ago
Nightingale
subeamnotlogedin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > One of the last Relief Society > lessons I was in mentioned how Helen Mar Kimball > was a few months shy of her 15 birthday when she > married Joseph Smith. Eek. Ugh. > I truly > believe if I was an introvert my life would be > easier. I guess there's pros and cons to each. Ma
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4 days ago
Nightingale
Welcome to posting Arkay. "I can't imagine what level of Hell my life would have been if I had been a Mormon." I think this too. I was a very short term "convert" who got into the church through friends. They seemed normal to me (the husband was BIC, the wife a devoted convert). I did feel pressured into baptism by the missionaries they set me up with but take respons
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4 days ago
Nightingale
"Some hardly know what science is". LOL
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4 days ago
Nightingale
"Only he who does something helps others to live. The world has no use for the drone." This is completely awful. No wonder they had to change it. But inspired leaders wouldn't be so clueless in the first place, you'd think. Definitions of drone include the following: "...to talk in a persistently dull or monotonous tone" Now *that* could fit a fair few Mormon lead
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4 days ago
Nightingale
A group of seven churches in Manitoba have lost their court challenge against COVID-related public health restrictions that include mandating closures of churches. I guess you could say that in the case of pandemics, science and medicine trump the practise of faith, at least in our present case. I am not surprised at the recent court verdict in favour of public health measures over faith gath
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5 days ago
Nightingale
heartbroken Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What else can they do to show > that tithing money is being spent for something > worth while? Hire janitors? Feed the hungry? Build > homeless shelters? From your lips to God's ears, so to speak.
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5 days ago
Nightingale
"YOU HIDE NOTHING" Um, how would we know if cl2 was hiding something? We wouldn't be able to tell because, by definition, it would be hidden!
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6 days ago
Nightingale
Hi vahn. Nice to see you. Your podcast sounds interesting. You could try contacting Concrete Zipper, board owner, to ask, at: concrete.zipper@gmail.com
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6 days ago
Nightingale
$1M per captive is what the kidnappers are demanding. Among several children being held is an 8-month old baby. No matter how dedicated I was to a cause I can't imagine travelling to a dangerous location with my children, including a young babe. Plus, I have no guts anyway. I sure hope they all get out of this OK. The nightmares may last forever. And what food is available for the kid
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6 days ago
Nightingale
You always provide an interesting perspective, Tevai. There's a lot I don't know about Judaism. I have much to learn. I didn't know that some congregations accept gay marriage. Progress indeed. Glacial as it's been but at least moving forward, as with much of society and especially religion.
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6 days ago
Nightingale
Yes, it makes sense both ways, kentish and sbg. In regular churches I know of (excluding the megas where, as noted, even the male partner may not be an ordained minister) a woman is not a pastor just because her husband is. Undoubtedly, she has an important role in many ministries within the church but not as an ordained pastor just on the strength of her husband's position. However, a woman m
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6 days ago
Nightingale
Ha, Elder Berry. Cute. But please still be EB. I will lose track of you otherwise. I'm not good with change.
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6 days ago
Nightingale
It's good to come to that place where you say enough is enough. I'm sorry for what all they put you through, jazbo, and all the countless others through the years. It's the weirdest kind of church, so many people thinking they have power over you. I'm sorry to read of your son too, jazbo. It sounds as though you were devoted and amazing and they didn't value you, except for the SP. That's amaz
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7 days ago
Nightingale
I laughed about the face recognition too, MexMom. Brilliant idea that guy had to do facial recognition for a guitar! Fortunately for Randy, that musician does public concerts so his guitar could be recognized. Fortunately too that he's willing to hand the guitar back. But it sounds as if it's going to cost Randy a lot to get it back, fare for the trip to Japan plus the cost of a replacement guita
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7 days ago
Nightingale
From the Health Canada web site: Common side effects of COVID-19 vaccination can last from a few hours to a few days, and include fever, fatigue, headache and pain at the injection site. Rare (and potentially severe) side effects are allergic reactions. That's why you're asked to wait 15 minutes at the clinic after your vaccination as a severe reaction (i.e. anaphylaxis) likely would occur
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7 days ago
Nightingale
Colin Powell had had multiple myeloma (a form of blood cancer) for a long time and had been undergoing treatment for it for many years, I've read. His COVID vaccinations did NOT cause his blood cancer (that is not a known side effect of the vaccinations). His cancer came first, then his vaccinations many years later. Of note too, nobody is saying that being vaccinated renders one 100% immu
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7 days ago
Nightingale
I saw some bacon in a farmers market yesterday with the brand name Klondike. I forgot to check out if it really comes from the Yukon. But I've been thinking of that bacon ever since. I bet it's delish. I longed for some last night to go with my perogy dinner. Heaven on earth. :)
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7 days ago
Nightingale
That's awful about your friend, knotheadusc. I hope they caught the guy and he rotted in prison. What a tragic loss of a promising young life. Your husband's 30 years of service is a big accomplishment. That's a long time and a lot of dedication. I'm wondering how Colin Powell would have contracted COVID. It's a detail they may or may not share. I hadn't heard that he had Parkinson's or mul
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7 days ago
Nightingale
I'm not sure, DR, if you were addressing me or Roy. I see that he's answered. Again I'd agree with his comment, that of course I accept that you can have a different opinion. However, I disagree with it. In the case of COVID, two opposite opinions are not equal to each other. It's not, imho, that it's OK to have confidence in vaccines and it's equally OK not to have confidence. It's understandabl
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7 days ago
Nightingale
Roy G Biv Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Maybe I'll send Pete Seager a > few bucks and a pack of bacon. Likely Earth Bucks aren't legal tender in Heaven. But I bet they'd take the bacon. :) (Pete Seeger left us in 2014 - seems like yesterday). Love that guy.
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7 days ago
Nightingale
dagny Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > He was extremely immunocompromised. > > While COVID pushed him off the cliff, the sad > truth is that he probably died earlier than he > would have if everyone had been vaccinated. We > should get vaccinated to help protect the young > and compromised people. It's not just selfishly > evaluat
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7 days ago
Nightingale
Here is an article discussing this question. It is religious, by definition, so I'm not going to post excerpts. It may answer your questions. You can find it here: https://www.gci.org/articles/women-pastors/ Bottom Line: The Bible does not prohibit females from serving as pastors, leaders, teachers, according to its analysis. It makes sense to me, fwiw.
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7 days ago
Nightingale
My experience with various churches, including mainstream evangelical, is that the minister is male and his wife is considered his partner/helper. A wife is not considered a pastor just because she is married to a pastor. In some denominations, women cannot be a pastor (leader). In churches such as the United Church of Canada, women can be pastors unto themselves, not through their husbands
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9 days ago
Nightingale
Yeah, there's something about Winnipeg eh? :) Maybe just the long cold winters. What else to do but write hit songs? I really enjoyed reading this story too. (I hope I made it clear that the person Randy is going to meet to get his guitar back is not the person who stole it way back when. That identity is likely lost in the mists of time. Mean thing to do). It's amazing that some random guy
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