Yes, it's a scary election this year. Hackers hired last year to test the security of the Diebold system were able to compromise it with about $25.00 worth of electronic parts and some 8th grade electronics knowledge. They could make the machine deliver whatever votes they chose. Salon ran an article about it: http://www.salon.com/2011/09/27/votinghack/ But cynically speaking, perh
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Tristan-Powerslave Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What I hate about the 'new atheism' is that they > do in fact act like a religion, & act like they're > religious in their atheism. > > What I hate about Dawkins is that he's an > agnostic, but acts like a militant, religious > atheist. As an agnostic, I don't want to be > as
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Northern_Lights Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It is not thr nee nothing. It is in fact truth as > per the scientific method. Not truth per bigoted > bronze age rantings. Is this a continuation of the Friday night thread, "What are you drinking?" Just curious.
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I welcome the polarity that the new atheism insists upon. I have a hunch that it will serve over time to isolate and render peculiar the things they believe just as it does with Mormonism. Let their adherents declare the rest of the world ignorant dolts as they march to the enlightened drumbeat from Hawking and Krauss that all of matter came into existence from the new "nothing." (
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There's no pressing need to abandon all of your past beliefs. Though you won't find many here, there is an large community of believers who face doubts and push forward looking for answers. There are corners of belief that defy complete explanation, but any honest atheist must admit that the same exist in their belief system as well. Don't be bullied, embrace your freedom, and understand that
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Yeah, funny moment. I was over at my mother's house watching the debate. Mom's 83 years old and a 5th generation Mormon raised in Utah. When Mitt declared himself a "pastor" she got a very confused look and said, "Pastor? We don't have pastors!"
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bona dea Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The mmission just might be the thing that does in > the faith of an immature and unprepared 18 year > old. My thoughts exactly. Add to an already immature and ill-prepared sales force a group with lower maturity and less preparation. I see more apostasy, faster apostasy, and even an even lower quality sales
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This will be interesting to follow. I suspect that the cause for the move is due to the fact that the group most susceptible to apostasy at present is the young male population. Fellow exmo and sociologist Ryan Cragun has noted that that the church is having the most difficulty maintaining this group. When any corporation begins to lose its sales force, it must necessarily take actions to
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Oh yes. Forgive abundantly and continually. You surrender yourself to those who wrong you by holding on to unforgiveness. In my life, the most unhappy, bitter, suspicious, and angry people I know are those who keep a list of wrongs committed against them. And you want to tell me that they're the ones with freedom, and I'm the doormat? Hardly. I have control, they are controlled. Bu
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Great news bc. Keep at it. Maybe season your love with flowers and candy to emphasize that you're not upset with her, just the church. Nothing I love more than seeing strong marriages fleeing a weakened church.
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Nicely put. Thanks for sharing, Mia.
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Of course "Peer Reviewed" must mean LDS members or sympathizers. Any others are not peers, silly. And to demonstrate the fine level of scholarship we can expect, I noted with special mirth, the topic covered by one of the learned fellows at the FAIR conference: "writer and editor Don Bradley, who explained what is known about temple worship in the 116 pages of the Book of
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Tall Man says we should all just gather round and listen to the wisdom of Betty Butterfield. http://archive.org/details/Betty_Butterfield_lds
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I'd go slow with other changes. Many of us men think things out and play through a hundred different scenarios before we ever open our mouths to discuss a thing. If you can demonstrate to him that the love you have for him and the stability you bring to your home remains absolutely unchanged, it should speak volumes to him that his world does not need to be rocked completely off axis by your re
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One of the weaknesses of a self-guided system of morality is that it has no authority outside your individual reality. There are competing views of morality. Without an external source of authority to buttress a moral system, there's no reason why any moral system should be adopted over another one. Moral arguments are difficult without appealing to external authority. For example, humans
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April 2008 General Conference, Dallin Oaks made the following statement: "Another way to seek a testimony seems astonishing when compared with the methods of obtaining other knowledge. We gain or strengthen a testimony by bearing it. Someone even suggested that some testimonies are better gained on the feet bearing them than on the knees praying for them." Dallin Oaks, as you ma
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The show goes on every week. If I'm not mistaken, DCP's column appears weekly in the Des News. It's a frequent source of wonder and amazement at the Tall Man house. Most brains would break after being bent so far out of alignment with reality.
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Lyndon Lamborn's story is that of a regular Mormon forced out for discovering the truth and talking about it: http://blogs.evtrib.com/spirituallife/2011/07/04/lds-excommunication-of-lyndon-lamborn-revisited/
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The only time I was glad for a person being late was when Mrs. Tall Man was late and Short Girl, No Hair arrived 9 months later.
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twojedis Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > We are working already on putting our experience > into words. It's a daunting task, but important. > We are also spending lots of time studying and > playing! Wonderful! A book is daunting, but a chapter is doable. Just do a chapter, then start on another.
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Stumbling Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Ethics ith near Thuthex and Thurrey in England... You should be ashamed. Go to your room, and don't come out until we tell you.
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Kudos! I continue to be thankful for your allowing the rest of us to see how this process can go when loving people keep their wits about them and cherish their family relationships above that they had with the church. Please keep the updates coming. And please keep an open mind to writing that book . . .
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I'm in favor of granting this label to Mormonism. Jan Shipps was one of the first to present this about 25 years ago with her book, "Mormonism: The Story of a New Religious Tradition." She notes that Mormonism is as different from modern day Christianity as is Judaism, but all three claim a common ancestry. I think it would be more helpful if the world realized Mormonism is much
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Sorry, but this sounds like a classic, "you can pay me now, or you can pay me later" dilemma. If you're convinced the church is not true, but this woman will not pursue a relationship with an exmo, then you're better off paying now and leaving the relationship behind. If you're so enamored with her that you're willing to rejoin a faith you know is a fraud, you'll enjoy a brief
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untarded Wrote: -> > For a great west coast burger, try Original > Tommy's chili cheese burgers & fries. (And don't > skimp on the Prilosec) ;-) Stopped at Tommy's on my way back from Santa Barbara a few weeks ago. I got the chili cheese burger and a chili tamale. It had been years since the last time. My mouth said, "This is amazing. Don't wait so long next t
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I think there's a place in the curve of inactivity where some of us hold onto certain basics and live in quiet anxiety that God is really pissed that we're inactive. Since we're screwing up everything else, defending the church becomes an exercise we hope will placate the angry deity.
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I can't tell you how glad I am that you have come back to tell us about your journey. I remember reading your husband's post, and becoming so anxious that this was the beginning of another of those plentiful stories we see here about a family breaking apart because one partner discovered the truth and chose to embrace it. I can't tell you how delighted I am to hear that you two are sticking toge
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Don Bagley Wrote: > Those who join the church are "converts" And those who leave are "convicts."
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