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8 years ago
jiminycricket
I'm hoping that RFM will be able to use this transcript effectively in "our cause." For example: Many have tried to speculate which apostle 'might' defect and tell the truth about TSCC being a fraud. Some have suggested that it might be Holland. And, we know that the top church leaders have their COB (Church Office Building) snoops who read and report about the dialogue on ex-Morm
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
There are different tittles for the Young Men and Young Women's age groups: Men: Deacons (12-13), Teachers (14-15) Priests (16-18) or the scouting equivalents. Women: Bee Hives (12-13), Mia Maids(14-15), Laurels (16-18) Holland used the familiar, or oldest title the young adult women once had when they were in the Young Women's program.
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
It's in response to several posts that discussed a talk given last week by Jeffrey R. Holland of the Quorum of Twelve to a group of single adults. Some are calling it the Tempe Rescue. There is an audio recording, and I just finished transcribing the whole thing and am about to put it up on RFM. http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1809298
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
“THE TEMPE RESCUE” Speaker: ELDER JEFFREY R. HOLLAND Quorum of Twelve Apostles Tempe Arizona Stake Center 2707 South College Avenue Tempe, Arizona Tuesday, April 26, 2016 Audio Link: https://soundcloud.com/secondrescue/jrh-tempe TRANSCRIPT (Made by jiminycricket of RFM) (Emphasis added in spots to reflect Holland’s voice) <<BEGIN TRANSCRIPT>> Somebody
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
I just finished making a transcript of Holland's Tempe Rescue from the audio link. Should I put it up on RFM? Or will ADMIN delete it? I have a few take aways: 1) The doctrine that we become Gods is alive and well. It contradicts the church ESSAY, and the Mormon Newsroom statement that we only become more 'like' God. 2) The "stay in the boat" metaphor is getting louder. 3) T
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
This doctrine was taught to me by Dale Mouritsen, the Institute Director (CES) of San Jose State Univeristy. There is a separate LDS Institute building next to the campus. Mouritsen is retired now. But, back in the 1970s he was teaching this blood changing-purging-purifying doctrine. He even had his own handouts on all subject matter that he taught. We were to bring our 3-ring binders to class
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Slightly O/T: How long before the OPs audio is shut down like this YouTube upload (which appears to be the same devotional) was recently shut down? See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7zykuFM640 The YouTube page says: "Elder Holland Tempe Arizona " "This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by Intellectual Reserve, Inc..." When I Google the ev
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
As Bednar said in that horrible back-humping YouTube video: You're either on the Lord's side (LDS) or the Devil's side. That message is reiterated throughout the entire age group of church members. The conditioning (indoctrination) starts with the little 3 year old primary children and never stops.
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Rather than being "True to the Faith" with all his apologetics, his memoir should be titled: "True to the Fraud."
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Hey, It's not a "temple" rescue. It is a meeting Holland had in Tempe, Arizona (hope that clarifies it for you): http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1808169,1808271#msg-1808271
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Well Jeff, . . . You wouldn't reply to the questions that your second-anointed stake president, Tom Phillips of England, presented to you. And because of his criminal fraud case against TSCC you and your apostolic buddies were forced to issue THE ESSAYS. And those are causing a lot of problems. . . . Well, when you are backed into a corner, one of your own making, and people are leaving the
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
It seems that the rhetoric to doubt your doubts, stay off the internet, stay on the Good Ship Zion, and disconnect from loved-ones who have turned apostate, has been rhetoric that has intensified dramatically within the past three years (2013-present). I didn't hear much, if any, in 2010 and 2011 about a big apostasy within TSCC. It was the admittance of First Quorum of Seventy member and Chur
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
LINK: http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/29/health/brigham-young-university-rape/index.html
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Called to Shun. "We've DISCONNECTED completely from listening to our apostate loved-ones." Thanks Elder Clayton for the inspiring words.
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Our nametags don't say it but we just had the second anointing. All that tithing was worth it.
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Give the missionaries the proverbial and typical Mormon "assignment." Assignment: The next time you visit you are to tell me precisely how Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon. You are to be very precise and accurate by using all historical information written on the subject. Then when you know the true precise method and the source of the translation device (a rock from t
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Yes seniors are ignored. My parents are ignored. My father, especially is ignored.
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
I'd say it was the same type of revelation as when Joseph Smith said he got the revelation to sell the copyright of the Book of Mormon in Canada. And when that didn't work out to his advantage, he said that the revelation came from the Devil. or Bazinga
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
That the doctrine of TSCC is found in the scriptures, and that anything contrary to the scriptures is NOT OF GOD. BUT, BUT, BUT... The Book of Genesis and the Book of Moses (given by Joseph Smith) both have the creation story. Both have the same order of what was created on days one through six. And remember, this is the WORD of GOD. However, the temple endowment switches the order of da
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Britboy said: "On one of the TBM church growth sites i read a man from one of the areas that had just had new stakes created explained they had had very few converts and the reason for the new stakes was a church policy to have smaller stakes so that more people have a chance of serving!" EXACTLY. It's all about creating more Stake Presidencies, High Councils, Stake Callings, etc.
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Posted wrong again. Something isn't working.
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
How many general conference talks from April 2016 or October 2015 touted the success of the historic new missionary program: "Hastening the Work of Salvation?" What statistics did the GAs reveal at GC? Frankly, it's a bust. If they aren't singing like a canary with the figures than it probably means the program isn't a success. However, if the locals spout off and use soci
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
1. I needed to know if JS was a true prophet. 2. I needed to know if the Book of Mormon was an ancient record. 3. I needed to know if the church is true. So I went to God in prayer. I received a personal revelation to ignore what the church says via correlated lesson manuals and ask the one-true-source for hard facts: Google. I questioned the thought. But, I felt God was inspiring
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
Clayton said. "We should disconnect, immediately and completely, from listening to the proselytizing efforts of those who have lost their faith, and instead reconnect promptly with the holy spirit." Translation: "The Glory of God is Ignorance."
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
I'm hoping a federal law suit case (someday, maybe this one) will get such attention that the plaintiffs REFUSE to settle with Mormon hush money. A case needs to go to trial finding LDS INC. guilty. The plaintiff needs to DEMAND that LDS financials be handed over to the courts for monetary damages. This would be the worst case scenario for TSCC. Oh the day this happens will be the day we all e
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
And you pay and pay and pay to the church for what? More blessings in the afterlife? Oddly, nobody seems to die and come back to earth to inform others that money made any difference in their “Heavenly-Rewards-Package®.”
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
How can Peterson make this statement. He wasn't there. Anything he states without verifiable facts is conjecture. He better watch out for making a false statement and smearing Jeremy Runnells. It's nice to think that in a 100 years from now (year 2116), no one will even care about Daniel Peterson. His apologetic techniques, conclusions and persona will be forgotten. But, Jeremy Runnells and
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8 years ago
jiminycricket
If an apostle is "a good man" he will never lie. He will always tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. He will always tell the truth about Joseph Smith, the Book of Abraham facsimiles, the rock/hat translation method and never remain 'silent' when it is to their advantage. A good man, an honest apostle, would follow to a tee the description of honesty as found i
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