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3 years ago
madeguy
You don't want to be a Mormon anymore, but you still like living among Mormons, who act as a buffer between you and the great unwashed, whom you don't understand, can't relate to. Leaving the nest is the best thing you can do for yourself. It is scary, but the rewards are great. Maybe it's time. Take a deep breath, just get away. Forget the whole thing. We don't know how much we don't k
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3 years ago
madeguy
They wanted his affirmation that the church is true. Coming to church implies that you believe even if you don't bear a testimony. He wouldn't give it to them. They may not know why he left, and the unknown can be frightening.
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3 years ago
madeguy
If there was no religion, someone would create one, then another, then another. We want to know where we came from, what we're doing here. Anyone with a decent answer may get followers. People are bored with logic and science. They want something special that shows us that God is there and is thinking about us (not necessarily doing anything or listening though). For many people, religion
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3 years ago
madeguy
Yes, I agree. There's no need to waste energy punching holes in a sinking ship. The church is stuck with their 'one true church' story. Truth emerges with time, and those with made-up stories will have to change or die. So, just sit back, have a glass of wine, watch the tide come in, and enjoy the show.
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3 years ago
madeguy
The Mormon church dislikes anti-Mormon narratives that try to undermine their authority. They love it when people notice them. Even if the attention they get is from a disparaging Broadway play like 'The Book of Mormon'. It makes them part of the conversation. What they simply cannot tolerate is your indifference to them and their claims of authority. They hate it when you just don't care.
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3 years ago
madeguy
It would set a precedent if there was a judgement against the church. The LDS church claims to have the authority to collect your tithing in the name of the almighty. It's up to you whether you believe them or not. If you're dumb enough to cough up 10% of your income to them (like I was), that your business. Don't count on the legal system to save you.
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3 years ago
madeguy
CrispingPin Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > As anyone who isn’t spiritually ignorant (or is > it “ignernt”?) knows, “pay lay ale” is > pure, Adamic language for “oh god, hear the > words of my mouth.” > > The “of my mouth” part always confused me. If > someone is hearing words, isn’t it assumed that > those wor
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3 years ago
madeguy
Yes, that's him, thanks.
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3 years ago
madeguy
He taught institute classes back in the '80s in Cambridge MA. He divorced Cindy Barlow, who was gorgeous by the way, and lost his position as institute instructor. Apparently, divorcees are not allowed to teach. He asked if they could make an exception, but they declined. No exceptions. I'd like to know what ever happened to him. He was unable to deal with the church's historical issues. He s
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3 years ago
madeguy
Do you think the COVID pandemic is a tipping point for faithful members? Will they show up for a sit down at year's end to catch-up on tithing as usual? I think the church will see a huge decrease in the amount of tithing that rolls in this year. People are suffering physically, financially and spiritually, and may realize that keeping their money is vital to their own survival. At least
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3 years ago
madeguy
The rapid advancement of technology in the last twenty years has brought with it instant and near-total access to information about everything and everybody. These days, when people need information, they go to the internet, a source that giveth to everyone liberally and upbraideth not. So, you should be able to get the lowdown on any company, organization, church, club or anyone so you can do bu
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3 years ago
madeguy
Don't seek anyone's approval. Flirt with their disapproval, and feel that. Don't agree with everything. It's OK to blaze your own path. No one may follow you. And that is good.
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3 years ago
madeguy
Live life freely. You don't need to follow anyone. You are totally free. You don't have to do a damn thing. You are everything and everything is you.
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3 years ago
madeguy
Corruption is not the exception, it's the rule. After I realized this I felt better. We're human. We're not perfect
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3 years ago
madeguy
We’re told that God does not perform miracles needlessly, and that ‘it is a wicked and an adulterous generation that seeks for a sign.’ When Joseph’s family and friends asked for a glimpse of the plates that he’d claimed to have uncovered, he told them God would strike dead any person who glimpsed them. So, presumably, they remained in a box wrapped in a tablecloth to prevent casualt
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3 years ago
madeguy
Extricate yourself SLOWLY. Don't defend your position. Let them defend theirs and walk away. Go one step at a time. Learn as much as possible. Know what you're talking about. Don't get angry.
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3 years ago
madeguy
It's also known as type 3 diabetes. It's the result of many years of heavy carbohydrate consumption.
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3 years ago
madeguy
The number one fact is that the golden plates were imaginary. There never were any physical golden plates. Joseph Smith never dug up anything of value. Though he tried. Look into it and you'll find the truth.
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12 years ago
madeguy
I agree with forbiddencokedrinker. You've made it clear how frustrating it is. So why bother? Just dissapear. Screw'em. They won't even ask where you are, or why you stopped coming. Leaving the church can be scary at first, but the feelings of total freedom and liberation kick in right away. You don't have to give excuses. TBMs would prefer you to argue about their church than just be indi
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12 years ago
madeguy
Liberation. Later some anger. But mostly pure liberation.
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12 years ago
madeguy
I'm trying to clear out the last vestiges of my membership in the Mormon church. I've called Deseret book five times in six months and requested to be taken off the mailing list. Each time a very nice woman assured me I was off the list. I have continued to receive big glossy mailers. The last time (before today) I refused to accept it. Wrote RETURN TO SENDER on the front. I still get stuff
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12 years ago
madeguy
Religions have one central message, not usually stated, but resembling the following: ‘You need to improve, and you need us to help you; You’re no good as you are; Do what we say and you’ll have great reward; disobey and you go to hell.’ This seems to me to be the opposite of what church is supposed to be. Isn’t it about love, forgiveness, tolerance? If churches were really tolerant, th
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12 years ago
madeguy
What were you doing in stake conference? If you're resigned, than just say no to those who EXPECT you to go to church. Don't send them mixed signals. Resigned means you're gone.
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12 years ago
madeguy
Thomas Monson is an unrepentant LIAR. Get down on your knees Thomas and beg God for forgiveness for perpetuating lies and stealing time and money from innocent people. Boyd K. Packer, you are A BULLY. Pray that almighty God has enough mercy to spare you the justice you so deserve. The 'golden plates' were purely imaginary. They KNOW this fact. The mormon church is based on IMAGINARY
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12 years ago
madeguy
The General Authorities are all unrepentant LIARS. They will never admit the whole thing is a fraud. Just get away from them. Ignore them. Jensen is an accomplished liar, changing the subject, bobbing and weaving. Monson is so out of touch he is, for all intent and purposes, INSANE. The golden plate were purely imaginary Thomas. Get down on your knees and beg for forgiveness for all the harm y
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13 years ago
madeguy
(First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve meeting minutes) Monson: Brethren, You have been called here tonight that we may discuss a matter of the gravest concern to me. Brethren, I have had a dream, a most disturbing dream. In this dream I saw, in glorious color, brother Glenn Beck piloting a speeding locomotive, leaning out of the window, a fey smile on his face, as he sped past me care
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13 years ago
madeguy
The rapid advancement of technology in the last twenty years has brought with it instant and near-total access to information about nearly everything and everybody. These days, when people need information, they go to the internet, a source that giveth to everyone liberally and upbraideth not. So you should be able to get the lowdown on any company, organization, church or club. You know where
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13 years ago
madeguy
To a true believing mormon, tithe paying is not optional. It is required of all faithful members of the Lord’s true church— the only ‘true’ church on the face of the Earth. You are to pay it gladly with a heart overflowing with gratitude— nothing less. Even if you follow every commandment, sacrifice all of your time, read the scriptures, parrot church authorities, clean the chapel, fait
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13 years ago
madeguy
He did more for humanity than all GA fraud mongers combined.
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