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8 weeks ago
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I've never heard of attempts to recruit gender variant teens and "convert" them for purposes of athletic competition. Why Not? Why are there not full "teams" of newly-minted t-girls out there just to dominate every women's sport if there were a "guaranteed" advantage?
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8 weeks ago
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What's Fair? This isn't an easy question, and it's going to become more pertinent as more trans children grow up and take their place in the world. What is to be done with them? There are efforts in several states to institute new forms of discrimination and exclusion and deny their existence -- just like the Nuremberg Laws of the Nazi Era. Remember that it was not so long ago
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8 weeks ago
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243. Yeah.
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8 weeks ago
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and are constantly looking for the next bête noir to inspire fear amongst their flocks.
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8 weeks ago
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I hope that a rational, objective look at this will end all the squabbling. But it probably won't... Why the data shows trans swimming champion Lia Thomas didn’t have an unfair advantage https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/lia-thomas-trans-swimmer-ncaa-b2044605.html On 17 March, Lia Thomas became the first openly transgender athlete to win America's top trophy in
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8 weeks ago
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but more about men who want to be able to "define" who is or who is not "worthy" of being female. If you have the power to define something, you also have the power to control it.
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8 weeks ago
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as "women" in your "all or nothing" world? They are more common than you think. A well-known conservative female author and TV commentator is rumored to be XY androgen intolerant with CAIS. Most are unaware of the condition until they reach the age of menarche and don't have periods and they can't have children .
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2 months ago
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and she was smart enough to avoid that trap. Can't you see that the senator was doing that just to folks like you riled up about nothing?
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2 months ago
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you have just seen a textbook example.
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2 months ago
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"To learn what is good, a thousand days are not enough; but to learn what is evil, an hour is too long." What is evil?
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2 months ago
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A judge is supposed to be impartial, and typically they don't comment on things outside their expertise or things they might have to rule on. If you bothered to stop and think for a moment, you might have figured that out. The senators aren't stupid, they're lawyers, and she knew what she was doing when she asked that loaded question. Instead, you took the "bait" that the senator
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2 months ago
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As I said, I had a friend with MRKH. You don't need a womb or cervix to be a "woman." You can look this stuff up just as well as I can. Not going to waste my time.
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2 months ago
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But then again, he was asked not what "race" or nationality he was, but what color -- and he might not have been used to this question in an American context. I've known a couple of people from the UK and they told me similar things. They also told me that America was obsessed with racial classification. Not that racism didn't exist in the UK, which it does of course-- just that it's
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2 months ago
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and as I said, it gets complicated. There are all kinds of indeterminate sex conditions, so you can't go by XX / XY and that's it. If you have any medical friends just ask them. I had a college friend that had MKRH, and I saw my dad's medical books (and slides!) when I was growing up and I learned that things are not so cut and dry when it comes to human sexuality.
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2 months ago
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bradley Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > But if you watch TV you get a different snapshot. > Fair enough, freak shows sell. Do you mean the adverts or the shows themselves?
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2 months ago
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A: Skin vs. Brain. "Racial" classification is not innate to the individual, but externally imposed. How would you know what "race" you were if no one ever told you? Peter Ustinov used to tell a joke about his first trip to America and didn't know what was meant when the customs officer asked him what "colour" he was, and he replied "pink" as it was a
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2 months ago
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so apparently it's still a thing...
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2 months ago
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, and my parents had "Jerry Springer" style arguments about it. My dad was a doctor and was against it. My mother was barely five feet and in her world a girl who would be over six feet tall and wore over size shoes just should not exist. http://www.hormonesmatter.com/des-used-stunt-growth-tall-girls/ To treat young healthy prepubescent girls with a known carcinogen to stu
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2 months ago
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I believe that everyone has the right to be who they are, and I reject discrimination. That's it.
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2 months ago
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, it's just plain wrong, so we have to agree to disagree and I'm going to just leave this alone. This is what Lia Thomas herself says. I'm not a psychologist, I don't know Lia, so I can only go with what's in the media: https://www.sportbible.com/other/lia-thomas-virginia-student-speak-out-against-trans-swimmer-20220318 https://www.si.com/college/2022/03/03/lia-thomas-penn-swimmer-tra
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2 months ago
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Isn't the big "shtick" in Mormonism about being an energy being or spirit from the planet Kolob that's been "downloaded" into a mortal human body? A Kolobian spirit in the wrong body -- wait, we've heard that before -- so how about a Kolobian two-spirit? That would make some Native people hopping mad, so how about a Kolobian trans-spirit that was put into the wrong body...
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2 months ago
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I've never heard of a case of people "faking" it, but I suppose it could happen. There are also brain scans, psych evaluations, etc, but the social costs are too great. Why would you do it? If you were faking it, you'd be found out eventually. If you were not forced or if something else were going on, that would seem to be a psychological problem the same as having amputation sympath
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2 months ago
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to win competitions? That would be wrong. Isn't there some kind of psychological evaluation and screening? I was 5'8" in the fifth grade and six feet in middle school, and I was called more nasty names than you want know. I don't like seeing that done to other people. The far right and evangelical media make claims about "de-transitioning" and so forth but again, fr
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2 months ago
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I'm still a bit confused as to what you guys are complaining about -- just to get that out of the way. If a group, or government was trying to "force" guys to be girls so to speak to cheat, that would be wrong. I remember the Kurt Vonnegut story "Harrison Bergeron" from either middle school or high school about future where people are all forced to be "norma
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2 months ago
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I'm confused here. Who is talking about getting rid of Title IX? I was talking about inclusion and calling out bigotry when I see it. Are you saying that trans women (and nobody ever talks about trans men) should not be considered to be female, but just some "other" form of human? From everything I've read about this, there are many factors that determine what we call &q
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2 months ago
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Done & Done Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And your decree of how we should be falls > flat with me. You are overlooking much in my > opinion including the handicapping I mentioned > earlier and empathy for everyone involved, not > just the ones you label victims. Please tell me what you are talking about please.
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2 months ago
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so that's why I chose to respond. I don't like bigotry, racism, bullying, etc, and I'd be the last person on Earth to do that to anyone else. Most of the comments were so juvenile and crude it really didn't make any sense to try and respond, and when I did try with reason and science, it didn't get through :) Here's the last thing I'm going to say on this. Some people may feel l
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